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By the way, thanks for that app info and suggestions. I've made interesting discoveries in the process and haven't used any type of high tech gismo just yet.
I may just pick up your book too since it seems you have angle quadrants mapped out in a number type system. I've always felt that may be important but not sure yet.
Thanks
Arthur Reisman wrote an excellent book on transposing the 3 move openings into the controlled, forced, lines of his Pioneer System. I still have that book.
Those who doubt the absolute brilliance required to play the championship game need only turn to youtube and try to master the study of Payne's Draw.
They MIGHT get a concept of 'forced play'.
(BTW....still murdering them with the CTE. What a delight it is to be down on that long distance pressure money ball shot (with all of them watching and hoping you pooch it) and absolutely KNOW that you've chosen the right angle and way to drill it into the pocket. Thanks to you and your publishing of this fantastic way to aim pool shots)
Keep on truckin'
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Good Morning Dave
In red.
I had been working with this since you posted the above. Couldn't get a hold of what you were saying.
I woke up this morning thinking about it then it dawned on me.
To execute the Roll, on my back swing the cue is touching the palm of my hand, on the finish of the stroke the cue ends up touching the pad at the base of my thumb and the wrist is out away from my body. (the Roll)
To execute the Tuck, on the back swing the cue is touching the pad at the base of my thumb, on ther finish of the stroke the cue ends up touching the palm of my hand and my wrist is bent in toward my body (the Tuck)
Long story short, to execute a Roll finish, on the backswing the grip is in the Tuck position (or the wrist can hanging straight down).
To execute a Tuck finish, on the backswing the grip hand is in the Roll position.
For me this has helped to create a very smooth transition (stroke) and feel from start to finish.
I have a series of shots I perform every morning to get all of my stuff calibrated. The Tuck and Roll has been incorporated into my morning practice.
Thanks
John
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Good Morning Dave
In red.
I had been working with this since you posted the above. Couldn't get a hold of what you were saying.
I woke up this morning thinking about it then it dawned on me.
To execute the Roll, on my back swing the cue is touching the palm of my hand, on the finish of the stroke the cue ends up touching the pad at the base of my thumb and the wrist is out away from my body. (the Roll)
To execute the Tuck, on the back swing the cue is touching the pad at the base of my thumb, on ther finish of the stroke the cue ends up touching the palm of my hand and my wrist is bent in toward my body (the Tuck)
Long story short, to execute a Roll finish, on the backswing the grip is in the Tuck position (or the wrist can hanging straight down).
To execute a Tuck finish, on the backswing the grip hand is in the Roll position.
For me this has helped to create a very smooth transition (stroke) and feel from start to finish.
I have a series of shots I perform every morning to get all of my stuff calibrated. The Tuck and Roll has been incorporated into my morning practice.
Thanks
John
Good stuff, glad it's now part of your game and arsenal. It certainly is with many pros, road players, and very good amateurs. You just have to be observant and know what to look for. When you see it and they want to play for money, run in the other direction.
Not one word or mention of Tuck and Roll is on the Billiard University site. Watch, it will show up all of a sudden. I'm not sure it'll be praised or suggested that one should practice and use it since the scientists like all straight lines and movements.
But I have never seen a science/physics geek ever come close to making it to the pro ranks or big money player. If so, who?
Jonni Fulcher
Is he a bartender or pro pool player? I'll bet he gets hounded for autographs from adoring fans every where he goes.
Excellent use of the app! In thinking about this, let me ask a question. If the original recording is 120 frames/sec then each frame is .008 seconds long. When you import and scroll in the app you are scrolling at .001 seconds resolution. Does the image stay frozen for about .008 seconds before the next frame comes up?
I'll bet it did (does) for Jeannette Lee and Jennifer Barretta. Especially from men who want to get close. I know it does because I saw Jeannette Lee doing an exhibition where she was challenging and taking on people from the audience. Afterwards she had an autograph signing session and the line was around the room.
All men and 3 women.
I had to look him up because I never heard of the guy but Jonni Fulcher is primarily a snooker player. (I think) Maybe it's different overseas and he does get autograph requests. Earl would probably get a good number but most would be scared off depending on his mood.
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Yes it remains frozen, so it's not the most accurate analysis, but it'll give you a ballpark figure. You can get a decent estimate of when the blurry freeze begins or ends, and use that point on both ends of the analysis.
Spider, you do realize how technical Earl is about the game, correct?
You don't have to be a geek scientist to be scientific about the aproach.
Earl said if he could, he would sand his shaft after every shot if it wasn't time consuming. Not out of being neurotic, but because of friction consistency due to particulate build up at the onset of chalking and stroking etc etc.
He's right, even if it means a minute degree because build up starts somewhere and it's virtually instantaneous when considering atmospheric elements.
Necessary? Well, that's for others to decide.
Technical? Yes.
Technical = Scientific
Scientific = Geek
Geek = Earl Strikland
Earl Strikland = Scientific
"Pro" = NON SEQUITUR
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Well, that explains all the safety gear. Lol.....when he's at the table he's in a constant state of scientific presentation, and one can't be too careful when it comes to that.
Sometimes I feel like Dr Daystrom.
Fast forward to 1:50, enjoy. Thank you.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jQT9QW1En5Q
Fast forward to 1:50, enjoy. Thank you.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jQT9QW1En5Q
Don't forget having the table mechanics at a particular event where he had the rails slightly elevated, a touch of silicone on the edges and a hard face on the side rail side of the pockets so everyone in the world doesn't shyte balls in and beat him due to "luck".
Something like that.
If I recall correctly, he played O'sullivan a set of 8 ball and frequently called out the barometric changes as the match progressed, thus an explanation for missing.
Earl the Pearl ladies and gentlemen and the not so gentlemensssss
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Earl is a Science Geek alright.
Ankle weights
Arm weights
Finger extensions
Earmuffs
Shooting Glasses
Tendinitis wrap
And his 8 ft Javelin
What's next? MLB catcher shin guards...chest protector...mask...batting helmet or football helmet...track shoes...he definitely needs a "cup" like boxers wear...
Yep, Earl is scientific, so says the brother of Professor Irwin Corey. But he's an OCD "WHACK JOB" even more. After all is said and done, ya gotta love EARL! He's a ONE OF A KIND CHARACTER!
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Don't make me break out my protractor on you sir. I only have one, from a outfit in Sweden who speacializes in cotton swabs with optional linear or vertical wood grain shafts. Must be specified when ordering. Very specific.
It's attached to my cue shaft for.....ehhhh hard to explain.
You know me and explaining and all.
Shoot'em now shoot him now!......shut up Ligh'jh
Good stuff, glad it's now part of your game and arsenal. It certainly is with many pros, road players, and very good amateurs. You just have to be observant and know what to look for. When you see it and they want to play for money, run in the other direction.
Not one word or mention of Tuck and Roll is on the Billiard University site. Watch, it will show up all of a sudden. I'm not sure it'll be praised or suggested that one should practice and use it since the scientists like all straight lines and movements.
But I have never seen a science/physics geek ever come close to making it to the pro ranks or big money player. If so, who?
In Bold above
Since you mentioned this I went back to UT and watched a lot of pro's play with my attention on their wrist action. Sure enough a good number of them use the Tuck and Roll.
It appears that the Filipino players use the same action but use their elbow position instead of their wrist or it could be a combination of both.
I never really knew what to look for until I became familiar with the action.
Having fun building a new habit.
John