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If you see 1980, you are doing good.

Doesn't mean you'll ever make a ball though.
Truth! I easily see 1980, and I clearly can't make a ball...


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I'm trying not to get dragged back into this because I know where it leads. But, if we can keep it civil, here goes: All I am saying is that CTE gets you in the neighborhood of the pocket. It might be dead on or off by 3 inches depending on the actual ball alignment. My contention, absent any other evidence, is that when you sweep or even pivot into the shot, you make an adjustment that you are not accounting for. It might even happen during the stroke.

If you take the same shot in your example above but move the ob 2 inches to the left, you will miss the pocket 2 inches to the left if you perform the same CTE step. Of course all you guys say I am wrong and Stan says he will explain it in the book. So fine, I can live with that. We don't need to keep rehashing it for no reason. Just drop it and let Stan actually explain what he calls the mystery of CTE in his book.

If you want to let this degenerate into name calling then so be it. The alternative is to behave like an adult.
I didn't call you any names. Just pointing out that you are totally wrong about everything you say about CTE. You have no clue about it, very simple.
  
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I didn't call you any names. Just pointing out that you are totally wrong about everything you say about CTE. You have no clue about it, very simple.
You here this a lot ..you have no clue about cte.
Not trying to argue here but what qualifies someone to understand it.

Follow directions and you get it to work or you follow direction and it doesn't work .

It seems on this forum only if you can make a ball with it qualifies you as understanding it I guess.

I would say there are many on here that can read..listen an follow directions wouldn't you.
What makes you so right about saying people just don't get it?


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I didn't call you any names. Just pointing out that you are totally wrong about everything you say about CTE. You have no clue about it, very simple.
Stan said there are probably two people on Earth who understand how CTE Pro1 works -- mohrt and himself. Not Spider, Not Neil, Not Cookie Man.

Welcome aboard the Ship of Fools, clueless cookie man!

OK, you've done your baiting for the day so let's call it quits.


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Stan said there are probably two people on Earth who understand how CTE Pro1 works -- mohrt and himself. Not Spider, Not Neil, Not Cookie Man.

Welcome aboard the Ship of Fools, clueless cookie man!

OK, you've done your baiting for the day so let's call it quits.
Spider flew to Kentucky in the not so distance past.

A player can use CTE successfully and not be able to spit out every detail.

I finished 25th in the US OPEN not know every visual detail. I ran a 105 on a tight Diamond not knowing every detail. I double dipped Billy Thorpe in a GSBT Bank tournament not knowing every detail.

Bottom line: I did not have to know everything about CTE to make it work. I played with CTE and worked to learn about CTE at the same time. I did not have to put CTE on hold until I had every last piece of the puzzle. My play as I went forward was important and the same can be said for anyone that uses CTE. You, Mr. White, are a nothing burger when it comes to getting after it, unless it involves your wordsmithing and then you can spit it out like alphabet cereal. You should be on a dang cereal box.

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Spider flew to Kentucky in the not so distance past.

A player can use CTE successfully and not be able to spit out every detail.

I finished 25th in the US OPEN not know every visual detail. I ran a 105 on a tight Diamond not knowing every detail. I double dipped Billy Thorpe in a GSBT Bank tournament not knowing every detail.

Bottom line: I did not have to know everything about CTE to make it work. I played with CTE and worked to learn about CTE at the same time. I did not have to put CTE on hold until I had every last piece of the puzzle. My play as I went forward was important and the same can be said for anyone that uses CTE. You, Mr. White, are a nothing burger when it comes to getting after it, unless it involves your wordsmithing and then you can spit it out like alphabet cereal. You should be on a dang cereal box.

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Let's say I give a placebo to a person with migraine headaches. If they are getting fewer headaches the worst thing I could do is tell them they are only taking a sugar pill. That knowledge might ruin the benefit. You, Stan, may know how the system works and will explain it in your book, but for guys like Cookie to go around telling other people that we don't understand anything is kind of funny. They don't know any more than I do. They only know they play better with CTE, and that's fine with me.

You know what my beef with CTE is and I don't need to keep repeating it. I only brought it up because Spider said Shishkebab can achieve multiple shot angles with the same bridge length and same pivot, which I find dubious. Maybe Shishkebab can do what Pro 1 does on a more basic level, but certainly not with the same bridge and pivot. You've said that the book will reveal the mystery and that sounds good to me. As far as I'm concerned it is a dead issue until the book comes out.

Actually, I have to say one thing. Spider said that if I set up a cut shot with Shiskebab and then I set up the same shot with the ob moved over a couple of inches that the shot can be made with the exact same bridge and pivot. Is this correct? He said he could explain it but not to me because I'm too dumb or something like that. This sounds like the mystery you are going to explain.


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Let's say I give a placebo to a person with migraine headaches. If they are getting fewer headaches the worst thing I could do is tell them they are only taking a sugar pill. That knowledge might ruin the benefit. You, Stan, may know how the system works and will explain it in your book, but for guys like Cookie to go around telling other people that we don't understand anything is kind of funny. They don't know any more than I do. They only know they play better with CTE, and that's fine with me.

You know what my beef with CTE is and I don't need to keep repeating it. I only brought it up because Spider said Shishkebab can achieve multiple shot angles with the same bridge length and same pivot, which I find dubious. Maybe Shishkebab can do what Pro 1 does on a more basic level, but certainly not with the same bridge and pivot. You've said that the book will reveal the mystery and that sounds good to me. As far as I'm concerned it is a dead issue until the book comes out.

Actually, I have to say one thing. Spider said that if I set up a cut shot with Shiskebab and then I set up the same shot with the ob moved over a couple of inches that the shot can be made with the exact same bridge and pivot. Is this correct? He said he could explain it but not to me because I'm too dumb or something like that. This sounds like the mystery you are going to explain.
Dubious Dan,
You should become a writer for BD with your pen name as Dubious Dan.

I don't concern myself with bridge distances and pivot amounts any longer. I would throw out there that based on Vanishing Point theory alone, it CAN be done due to the nature of how two spheres relate to each other on a 2x1, 6 pocketed table.

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Dubious Dan,
You should become a writer for BD with your pen name as Dubious Dan.

I don't concern myself with bridge distances and pivot amounts any longer. I would throw out there that based on Vanishing Point theory alone, it could done due to the nature of how two spheres relate to each other on a 2x1, 6 pocketed table.

Stan Shuffett
OK so we're back to that. I'll wait for the book.

I like Dubious Dan. It is how engineers are taught to think. It's what keeps bridges from falling over and chemical plants from blowing up.


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OK so we're back to that. I'll wait for the book.

I like Dubious Dan. It is how engineers are taught to think. It's what keeps bridges from falling over and chemical plants from blowing up.
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OK so we're back to that. I'll wait for the book.

I like Dubious Dan. It is how engineers are taught to think. It's what keeps bridges from falling over and chemical plants from blowing up.

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You here this a lot ..you have no clue about cte.
Not trying to argue here but what qualifies someone to understand it.

Follow directions and you get it to work or you follow direction and it doesn't work .

It seems on this forum only if you can make a ball with it qualifies you as understanding it I guess.

I would say there are many on here that can read..listen an follow directions wouldn't you.
What makes you so right about saying people just don't get it?

I guess you could watch the videos online of him using his system and running 100's/racks.

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I'm a Perceptual Engineer, a Houligan if you will. It's not too late for you to join ranks, Double D!

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Join the ranks? Let's publish the book first. One step at a time.

OK, after much deliberation I've decided upon the official Stan nickname. I dub thee "Sweepin' Stan" Shuffet, or Triple S for short. Whaddya think?


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