Cue Sales - Poll on last item listed.

I haven't sold anythink on AZ in a while. I have listed five or six cues on AZ at slightly less that what I thought they would go for on ebay. I have never sold one cue here. I have eventually listed each cue on ebay and got a higher price that what I offered them at for sale here EVERY time. I have come to the conclusion that AZ'ers are tight.
The for sale forum is mostly static now anyway.
Mostly bump, bump, geat cue, great guy, BS, BS, Hype, bump, etc.
The for sale forum would be vastly improved if all threads were locked beyond simple FS adds. No responses, no replys, no reveiws or opinions, no bumps.
Eddie

I listed a very nice cue (a top name cue maker) for less than I paid for it and I couldn't sell it and I thought the price was great compared to a new cue just like mine. My cue was like brand new and it had 3 perfect shafts.

I ended up putting it on ebay and I got a trade offer for a cue that I used to own and cash. Since I couldn't sell my cue for cash I took the trade offer to get a cue back that I knew was a good one. I put the cue I traded for on AZ and it was like new from a top cue maker also (my original cue makers partner) and it took months to finally sell it for less than it was worth!

I guess it's the economy and too many cue makers making nice cues these days.

James

SCCues said:

I listed a very nice cue (a top name cue maker) for less than I paid for it and I couldn't sell it and I thought the price was great compared to a new cue just like mine. My cue was like brand new and it had 3 perfect shafts.

I ended up putting it on ebay and I got a trade offer for a cue that I used to own and cash. Since I couldn't sell my cue for cash I took the trade offer to get a cue back that I knew was a good one. I put the cue I traded for on AZ and it was like new from a top cue maker also (my original cue makers partner) and it took months to finally sell it for less than it was worth!

I guess it's the economy and too many cue makers making nice cues these days.

James

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Maybe the economy, maybe not. It could be that the prices of the cues are inflated, perhaps a little, perhaps a lot. I have no idea what the universe of cue collectors is, how many there are in the various segments of that universe depending on the value -- perceived or true -- of the cue in question might be.

I'm sure someone has some kind of study regarding how much certain cuemakers cues have appreciated over time.

As for the economy, I put an order in for a custom cue about a month ago. Yes, I put my "economic stimulus payment" to good use!

However, the cue I'm having made is for me to use, to play with. Might not really be a looker, although a full splice ebony sneaky pete should look alright.

There's no way I'm going to fork over really serious money for a cue I'll ding and scratch up in no time.

If the universe of cue collectors is say 5,000 individuals (I have no idea if it's 5,000 or 50,000 or 500,000 or whatever) and those people have invested in some risky mortgage deals, I can understand why they might not want to fork over the equivalent of a mortgage payment or two for a very nice cue...

Flex

our_auctionguy said:

that nearly 1/2 of the cues last listed by the survey participants, sold within 7 days and the rest pretty much languished or are still languishing for sale.

If this survey were statistically significant, then it would mean pretty much that if your cue hasn't sold within a week, chances are it ain't gonna sell in 6 months.

Bummer!

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Since the universe of cues for this poll amounts to only 23 cues, I'm not so sure any reliable conclusions can be drawn from these results. Had there been 1,000 responses or 800 or even 500, I'd be more persuaded by the results.

Imagine that just 20 other posters had listed a nice Schon for sale at rock bottom prices, at fire sale prices, say at 25% of retail for a new
Schon. Take this cue, for example: http://www.platinumbilliards.com/schon-pool-cue-stl-p-1002937.html


That cue goes for $700 retail new ($875 list price). At 25% of $700, it would be $175. Do I see a sale coming quick??

I imagine those cues would fly out the door. Plug 20 cue sales going in a day or two into those calculations, and see just how unreliable the original poll would be.

Thus, "Bummer!" might not be the appropriate exclamation.

Flex

Flex said:

That cue goes for $700 retail new ($875 list price). At 25% of $700, it would be $175. Do I see a sale coming quick??

I imagine those cues would fly out the door. Plug 20 cue sales going in a day or two into those calculations, and see just how unreliable the original poll would be.

Thus, "Bummer!" might not be the appropriate exclamation.

Flex

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Know its just an example, but a stl9 can be brought off of many dealers closer to 600 than 700, and those are dealers listed on schon's website.

Would hate for someone to try to sell one here at 700 and then 675 and wonder why it never sells.

cubswin said:

Know its just an example, but a stl9 can be brought off of many dealers closer to 600 than 700, and those are dealers listed on schon's website.

Would hate for someone to try to sell one here at 700 and then 675 and wonder why it never sells.

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Exactly right. My point is that the breakdown of sales vs. non-sales and so on is very possibly way off.

Although I've sold a few cues of mine to friends, I have no doubt that if I were to have tried to sell them here they probably wouldn't have sold, unless I had offered them at really rock bottom prices.

For instance, given what appears to be an anti-Meucci mindset among the posters on AZ, do you think it would be easy to sell a well-used Meucci, sight unseen, on here? Not very likely, IMHO.

However, put it up on eBay and it will sell, easily, so long as the starting price isn't too high.

Among regular players, Meucci continues to have a good name, IMHO. From what I can tell, among my friends, most haven't heard about their quality issues of the past few years.

Now, imagine 25 people were to try to sell a decent Meucci here, at a reasonable price. Would it sell? Maybe, maybe not... A "Meucci Original" might.

Perhaps the original poster should start another poll, one that tries to find out not whether the last cue listed sold and when, but overall, how many sold.

Are those selling cues here repeat sellers? If it works for them, I bet they are.

Flex

SCCues said:

I listed a very nice cue (a top name cue maker) for less than I paid for it and I couldn't sell it and I thought the price was great compared to a new cue just like mine. My cue was like brand new and it had 3 perfect shafts.

I ended up putting it on ebay and I got a trade offer for a cue that I used to own and cash. Since I couldn't sell my cue for cash I took the trade offer to get a cue back that I knew was a good one. I put the cue I traded for on AZ and it was like new from a top cue maker also (my original cue makers partner) and it took months to finally sell it for less than it was worth!

I guess it's the economy and too many cue makers making nice cues these days.

James

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Here is the real question - Did the cue really sell for "LESS THAN IT'S WORTH? Did it sell for it's ACTUAL WORTH? My contension is that the cue sold for it's true value. No less and no more than the market will bear. Just b/c you sold cue of the same ilk at 25% more at sometime in the past, doesn't mean it's worth that much today. The true value of an item is only what someone in the world is willing to pay - AT THAT MOMENT.