Resurgence of Straight Pool

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Perhaps it cyclical. Perhaps its a vintage retro thing that the new guys are finally catching on to and the old guard always knew about. However you want to look at it Straight Pool is having a resurgence. With big names like John "Mr. 400" Schmidt, Thorsten Hohman, Steve Lipsky (our local long island hero), even Jasmin Ouschan the wonder girl of pool are now being held in an even higher regard than they were before because of their straight pool prowess.

When I was seventeen and first started learning the game everything was nine ball. If there was gambling it was nine ball, if there was a tournament it was nine ball. Very occasionally you would see eight ball but always nine ball. However in the last year and a half my home pool room has done a turn around and the majority of the players are now playing straight pool myself included.

Now Im not a world class player or even an open level or A player but I love the game. My high run is in the upper forties and that only happened recently lol. I have to say that even though I know there was mixed opinions about the Dragon Promotions Event that the dress code being enforced definitely harkens back to a day of gentleman playing the game we love.

In my opinion I love watching amateurs play. I have a buddy of mine who can barely run five balls but I explained the infamous straight pool triangle to him for the first time and not only did he get out of a rack (five balls on the table) but he got perfect on his break ball AND MADE IT!!!!! The look on his face was pure pride and there was a little more strut in his step after that. About ten minutes later I overheard him explaining the triangle to one of his friends who plays worse than him lol. More importantly I owe my love of this game to the guy who showed me that same infamous triangle. Watching him is like watching Crane or Mosconi. Not in the high runs and not in the shots but his demeanor at the table. The focus, the determination and sheer will at the table.

Im not sure what I was trying to do with this little rant but I know one thing I love straight pool and Im going to bust those balls until I hit a hundred and when I do im throwing a party and every Az'er and i do mean every az'er even the ones that dont like me are invited.

Keep the high runs coming guys shoot well out there.

Charlie
 
I think its because its just a really fun game! Its really simple to play, but has unending depth for the player who would like to learn more. I've never been bored with it, even sitting in the chair watching my opponent.
 
Great post Charlie!

For years everyone said straight pool was dead, it was never dead, just sleeping!

More times than not, once a player is first intoduced to the game they are hooked! They see the challenge the game posses, and by nature we love a challenge. When they make that first breakshot and the rack splits open, thats it, they are hooked!
 
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz !

jondrums said:
I think its because its just a really fun game! Its really simple to play, but has unending depth for the player who would like to learn more. I've never been bored with it, even sitting in the chair watching my opponent.

Jon, I'm really having trouble wrapping myself around your last sentence. Do you like punishment ? That has always been my major beef with 14.1
Quite often, the best player sits in the chair for hours on end.
Sorry, but give me a game where I get a chance to defend myself, by
shooting every so often. Then if I screw up, at least I'll know that it wasn't because rigor mortis had set in. :rolleyes: JMHO

Dick
 
14.1 is resurging for the same reason that the cream rises to the top..

14.1 was THE world championship for all pool history.. until television became involved.. they want fast racks that can be edited easily to fit the time slot they choose...

we tried 9-ball for 20 years.... the amateur players were not interested because they don't play that game... the experts were not interested because the game is to easy... the only people interested were the TV networks looking for airtime to sell..

the casual fan didn't buy it.. the hardcore fan didn't buy it.. the only ones who bought it were the TV execs...

championship pool is moving back to its roots because it HAS to.. just to keep from dying...

the best players playing the hardest game.. is now and always has been the best way to determine who is champion..

you don't "get lucky" in straight pool

you either win or you don't. and you determine your fate.. not a lucky shuffle..

the world is focusing on real pool again .. this is an exciting time....

straight pool is the past and the future...

Welcome back POOL!!!
 
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Post removed, sorry for the thread hijack.
 
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tanco said:
Are you ever going to follow through on your challenge to rossaroni for the Minnesota AzB king?


absolutely....

if you all are getting impatient... you can drive the 90+ minutes.. at $4.00 a gallon...

I'll play box 8 race to 15.. you come to me...

PM with when you are coming and I'll reply with where I will be...

otherwise.. I'll play at shooters the next time I make it up to the cities ...
 
straight pool is DEAD!


i like straigth pool and all, but if it aint in Derby city then its dying or dead already. Ill play whatever the game is and ill adapt. but dont tell me straight pool is the "future" next your gonna tell me balkline is the "next big thing"
 
tanco said:
I will pay your gas if you follow through on the challenge YOU made condescendingly towarnds rossaroni. Just tell me how much it will take to get you up here and I will leave the money at the counter with Craig the owner or Duane the GM.


how is it that you are all bent out of shape?..

you wanna pay the gas.. then do it... take an all nighter down south..

I have an actual life, wife, kids, job, mortgage, the whole bit..

I am not afraid of anyone on a pool table....

I did challenge Ross.... I am a bit unsure about how you became involved..

I have been truthful and real with him..

how are you involved again???

if you want to foot the bill ... drive on down.. if not....

Mind your own business.......please
 
softshot said:
how is it that you are all bent out of shape?..

you wanna pay the gas.. then do it... take an all nighter down south..

I have an actual life, wife, kids, job, mortgage, the whole bit..

I am not afraid of anyone on a pool table....

I did challenge Ross.... I am a bit unsure about how you became involved..

I have been truthful and real with him..

how are you involved again???

if you want to foot the bill ... drive on down.. if not....

Mind your own business.......please


i smell a TAR challenge.:)
 
Sorry, wrong game Waldo !

softshot said:
14.1 is resurging for the same reason that the cream rises to the top..

14.1 was THE world championship for all pool history.. until television became involved.. they want fast racks that can be edited easily to fit the time slot they choose...

we tried 9-ball for 20 years.... the amateur players were not interested because they don't play that game... the experts were not interested because the game is to easy... the only people interested were the TV networks looking for airtime to sell..

the casual fan didn't buy it.. the hardcore fan didn't buy it.. the only ones who bought it were the TV execs...

championship pool is moving back to its roots because it HAS to.. just to keep from dying...

the best players playing the hardest game.. is now and always has been the best way to determine who is champion..

you don't "get lucky" in straight pool

you either win or you don't. and you determine your fate.. not a lucky shuffle..

the world is focusing on real pool again .. this is an exciting time....

straight pool is the past and the future...

Welcome back POOL!!!

Softshot,

I admire you for sticking up for YOUR game. You are not alone in enjoying the game. However, even your chosen God/Hero/Idol, (Mosconi) admitted that "straight Rotation" was the most challenging game ever played on a pool table.
10 ball is a shortened version of that game, and it has become the accepted game of the elite player's' and rightfully so.
You must surely realize that One Pocket, competes with 10 ball, as a popular choice of determining the most skilled player. Have your fun with YOUR game, but don't expect a "resurgence" in your lifetime. It is even more boring than Bowling, and will NEVER make live TV. And that's a fact.
The hotbed of the pool world, at present, is the Phillipines and Asia. Do you really think they'll be playing any 14.1 at the WCP ?
Have your fun, but stay out of the way, REAL pool is on the upsurge. ;)

Dick

P.S. There might be a "regurgitation" of straight pool, but a resurgence, NO WAY ! :)
 
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tanco said:
Kind of how I expected you would reply. You challenge rossaroni in a arrogant matter, then come up with a multitude of excuses why you won't play? First it was scheduling problems, then you got lessons from Randy G and needed to adjust to your new found knowledge, now it's the price of gas. Gimme a break.


too funny.... I do note that you are bragging up "someone else" that might be able to beat me"... but you yourself want's not part of it...

I only make so much time for mediocre pool players

I make NO time for mediocre fanboys of mediocre players

you offered to foot the bill... then do it...

tell me when to expect you...
 
Sorry, wrong game Waldo !

softshot said:
14.1 is resurging for the same reason that the cream rises to the top..

14.1 was THE world championship for all pool history.. until television became involved.. they want fast racks that can be edited easily to fit the time slot they choose...

we tried 9-ball for 20 years.... the amateur players were not interested because they don't play that game... the experts were not interested because the game is to easy... the only people interested were the TV networks looking for airtime to sell..

the casual fan didn't buy it.. the hardcore fan didn't buy it.. the only ones who bought it were the TV execs...

championship pool is moving back to its roots because it HAS to.. just to keep from dying...

the best players playing the hardest game.. is now and always has been the best way to determine who is champion..

you don't "get lucky" in straight pool

you either win or you don't. and you determine your fate.. not a lucky shuffle..

the world is focusing on real pool again .. this is an exciting time....

straight pool is the past and the future...

Welcome back POOL!!!

Sofshot,

I admire you for sticking up for your game. You are not alone in enjoying the game. However, even your chosen God/Hero/Idol, (Mosconi) admitted that "straight Rotation" was the most challenging game ever played on a pool table.
10 ball is a shortened version of that game, and it has become the accepted game of the elite player's' and rightfully so.
You must realize that One Pocket, competes with 10 ball, as a popular choice of determining the most skilled player. Have your fun with YOUR game, but don't expect a "resurgence" in your lifetime. It is even more boring than Bowling, and will NEVER make live TV. And that's a fact.
The hotbed of the world, at present, is the Phillipines and Asia. Do you really think they'll be playing any 14.1 at the WCP ?
Have your fun, but stay out of the way, REAL pool is on the upsurge. ;)

Dick
 
tanco said:
lol, see post #15 in this thread.

like I said... when will you arrive?... I WILL make all the accommodations I can.. when will you be here?


you have $30,000 to drop on a pool match but you can't scrape up gas money to Kato????


get back to me when you are serious...
 
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