would anyone buy this ?

kamdaswani

kamdaswani

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i just bought a high end cue from a dealer ... just under 4k

it came with 2 warped shafts ( i was not told they were warped )

now the question is, if the cue still plays ok, would i ever be able to sell it ?
or would every one shun it due to the shafts being warped ?

the cue does not roll straight, the shafts wobble .. is there any price at which some one would buy it anyway ? or is this just fire wood now ?

i am trying to asses the risk here .. if it is a dead investment anyway, it would be worth taking the risk to ship it back to the cue maker in hopes of it being made more play worthy but of course that entails more expense ... 600 for new shafts and x amount for a refinish etc...

any thoughts ?

i would rather not undo the deal with the guy i got it from as it involved trades as well as cash and it all just gets too complicated ...
 
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kamdaswani said:
i just bought a high end cue from a dealer ... just under 4k

it came with 2 warped shafts ( i was not told they were warped )

now the question is, if the cue still plays ok, would i ever be able to sell it ?
or would every one shun it due to the shafts being warped ?

the cue does not roll straight, the shafts wobble .. is there any price at which some one would buy it anyway ? or is this just fire wood now ?

i am trying to asses the risk here .. if it is a dead investment anyway, it would be worth taking the risk to ship it back to the cue maker in hopes of it being made more play worthy but of course that entails more expense ... 600 for new shafts and x amount for a refinish etc...

any thoughts ?

i would rather not undo the deal with the guy it got it from as it involved trades as well as cash and it all just gets too complicated ...
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Who,what,when,where,how?DETAILS!!!Oh yeah and pics if possible.
 
Who is the cuemaker? This will help us determine what it's future value could be. Maybe two new shafts is the best solution if you don't want to re-nogotiate the trade.

It is ashame the seller was not honest about the warpage.
 
If you like the cue, then just have another shaft made.

It's only money and we all know that comes and goes.

Remember.............think long term :slap: :thumbup2:

Tommyd1
 
i am giving him the benefit of the doubt, he said they were straight when he shipped them ...

cue maker is definitely top 10.. i don't want to go into too many details about the dealer as i wouldn't want to spoil any future business of his as i believe him to be basically a nice guy...
 
Kam...just a thought, but have you tried hanging the shafts for a few days to acclimate? It might be worth a try, and certainly couldn't hurt. A rubber band slipknotted over the ferrule, and will cause no ill effect.

Just trying to think of ways to make this an easier decision for you.

Lisa
 
hey

kamdaswani said:
i am giving him the benefit of the doubt, he said they were straight when he shipped them ...

cue maker is definitely top 10.. i don't want to go into too many details about the dealer as i wouldn't want to spoil any future business of his as i believe him to be basically a nice guy...
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Kam.....no deatils are required as of yet. Whoever the dealer was that sold this cue to you.....has to know that it didnt warp during shipping. He should stand behind this and make it right...no matter what it costs him.

Just my opinion....good luck
Steve
 
kamdaswani said:
i just bought a high end cue from a dealer ... just under 4k

it came with 2 warped shafts ( i was not told they were warped )

now the question is, if the cue still plays ok, would i ever be able to sell it ?
or would every one shun it due to the shafts being warped ?

YES, at the "right" price.

the cue does not roll straight, the shafts wobble .. is there any price at which some one would buy it anyway ? or is this just fire wood now ?

YES, market value LESS the cost of replacement shafts.

i am trying to asses the risk here .. if it is a dead investment anyway, it would be worth taking the risk to ship it back to the cue maker in hopes of it being made more play worthy but of course that entails more expense ... 600 for new shafts and x amount for a refinish etc...


any thoughts ?

Contact the "dealer" and request an adjustment


i would rather not undo the deal with the guy i got it from as it involved trades as well as cash and it all just gets too complicated ...
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GOOD LUCK!
 
tikkler said:
Kam.....no deatils are required as of yet. Whoever the dealer was that sold this cue to you.....has to know that it didnt warp during shipping. He should stand behind this and make it right...no matter what it costs him.

Just my opinion....good luck
Steve
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I agree. The shafts didn't warp in transit.
 
kamdaswani said:
i just bought a high end cue from a dealer ... just under 4k

the cue does not roll straight, the shafts wobble .. is there any price at which some one would buy it anyway ? or is this just fire wood now ?
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Can you actually see that the shafts are bent? If you have a bit of grit or any kind of foreign matter in the joint ( It doesn't take much), it will cause the cue to wobble when you roll it, and it looks just like the cue is warped.
 
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ronhudson said:
Can you actually see that the shafts are bent? If you have a bit of grit or any kind of foreign matter in the joint ( It doesn't take much), it will cause the cue to wobble when you roll it, and it looks just like the cue is warped.
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Bad Deal.....

The dealer should make this right. If his name were tossed out there now he would be the main entree at the barbeque. Surely he has offered some form of compensation. If I were you I don't think I would eat this one all by myself................
Pinocchio
 
Remember we are dealing with wood here.
Not trying to say anyone is right or wrong but remember different humidity levels will cause wood to move.
My own personal experience: My friend from Georgia gives me a cue he had with him at VF that I decided I'd buy and send him the money when I got back to Boston, I roll the cue a week later and it was slightly warped, I send it back and he tells me that yes indeed it was warped when he received it back from me, no problem. Now the kicker, a month later he calls me and told me that when he took it to a cuemakers shop and spun it on the lathe: It spun straight !!! and he was surprised as me. He wasn't trying to resell it to me again and there were no hard feelings, Just remember that wood will move sometimes.
Again just playing Devil's advocate.
 
kamdaswani said:
i just bought a high end cue from a dealer ... just under 4k

it came with 2 warped shafts ( i was not told they were warped )

now the question is, if the cue still plays ok, would i ever be able to sell it ?
or would every one shun it due to the shafts being warped ?

the cue does not roll straight, the shafts wobble .. is there any price at which some one would buy it anyway ? or is this just fire wood now ?

i am trying to asses the risk here .. if it is a dead investment anyway, it would be worth taking the risk to ship it back to the cue maker in hopes of it being made more play worthy but of course that entails more expense ... 600 for new shafts and x amount for a refinish etc...

any thoughts ?

i would rather not undo the deal with the guy i got it from as it involved trades as well as cash and it all just gets too complicated ...
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Send it back for a refund, nothing short of this will make you happy in the long run, and if you are not happy you will hate the cue long term.
 
maybe you can talk to the dealer and ask him if he would have the shafts replaced. you can mic ths joint and call the cue maker and see if he needs the butt?and the pavlos is right wood moves. i seen some cues that were laying on a table when a hurricane came in and it wobbled like a drunk sailor. and 3 days later it was straight as a arrow!!. also if the cue has ivory, sending it back to the states could cause a problem!(customs) talk with the dealer most will stand behind what they sell. and some wont! that is why i started my buisness! good luck kam!!! your to good of a guy to be dissatisfied! but at least give the dealer a chance to make good and when he does give him praise, and if he dosent let people know! Bill
 
Kam,
I agree with most of what was said. The cue dealer whomever it is should take it back. We have a policy clearly stated, when people ask to invoke that policy, it's no questions asked. A few times we have gone far and above that policy when requested.

JV
 
Kam,,,,,,,,

You Are Very Well Known And Respected In The World Of Collectable Cues,,,,,,,

I Am Surprised That Any Self Respecting Dealer Would Try To Knowingly Sell Warped Shafts,,,,,word Gets Out Real Fast......

I Would Look For A Full Refund And Let The Dealer Do What He Pleases With It,,,,,,

Lisa's Idea About Hanging Was Right On The Money,but I Would't Hang The Shafts ,just The Dealer,,,,,,,,,

I For One, Would Never Buy Any Cue, Regardsless Of What It Was Or Who Made It With Warped Shafts,,,,,,,,

Get Your Money Back Pal And Get A Cue From A Straight Up Person Who Knows How To Treat A Buyer Such As Youself,,,,,,,
 
tikkler said:
Kam.....no deatils are required as of yet. Whoever the dealer was that sold this cue to you.....has to know that it didnt warp during shipping. He should stand behind this and make it right...no matter what it costs him.

Just my opinion....good luck
Steve
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Well said.

Kam, please dont think that you have to "accept" it just because the dealer told you they werent warped when they sent it out.

$4000 is a lot of money buddy. Get it back.
 
thanks..

.. for all the input and support ..

basically i have 2 options... undo the deal .. which he is willing to do but then i have to ship the cue back and although i have never had any problems, what if this is the one time it gets stopped, then who is liable ?

second - i get new shafts made and move one in life ...

i dunno .. tough call ... pity there are no local buyers .. like i said, it plays fine ... but i couldn't sell it with a "it plays fine" description ... and there are tons of cues out there.. why would anyone take a chance with one that has wobbles in the shaft ...

and if i am shipping it back, then i may as well ship it to the cuemaker and have him re-finish it and match off new shafts and basically get back a new cue ...

guess i'll just have to ponder it for a few days .. maybe speak to the cue maker again and get his feedback ...

till then, i have a szam and BB on the way to cheer me up :)

appreciate all the advice guys ... good to hear all the options out loud ...

clears some of the noise in my head ;)
 
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