Cuemaker build off

ftgokie

ftgokie

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Here is something you that may be fun for all of us if anyone is willing to do this.

Have 3-4 cue makers make a simple cue to the same specs, and we send them around to some members to try out and us give feedback for the rest of the members to go off of.

This may or may not be something that could be done,just trying to see if I should pursue this or not.

I would buy the cues, if you wanted to participate, then you pay for shipping from me to you, then to the next person that wants to try them out. After everyone s done, I pay for shipping back to me.

If this sounds like something that you would want to participate in, let me know.

We would also need to get 2,3 or 4 cue makers names that you think you would like to try out..


I am just seeing if this may or may not be something that we could do as a forum...
 
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We already have 1 cuemaker step foreward to get this going. We will all need to give ideas on this.

I am thinking something simple...wood to wood joint, wrapless.

cues will be same wood type, but each cuemaker will use their pin, collar, ringwor, etc

We need a cuemaker that can make a simple cue in the 4-8 week timeframe.

Any ideas will be greatly appreciated!

Shawn Smith
 
I would love to take part in something like that as it would give me a good idea of who I would want to buy from without having to pay for it to find out. This would give me a good idea as to who I would want to buy from next.
 
A basic sneaky pete would work well. The cue builders all use the same woods, but like you said can use their own collars, pins and ring work. Not sure about the weight or shaft diameter.
 
gunzby said:
I would love to take part in something like that as it would give me a good idea of who I would want to buy from without having to pay for it to find out. This would give me a good idea as to who I would want to buy from next.
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This is EXACTLY why I thought of this.....I get 4-5 or however many cuemakers cues in my hand.....try ythem out...give my feedback....then send them to the next AZ member to try out....they give thier input and feedback...send it on....

This way it is positive for everyone on here...it gives us as customers a good idea of what we would like...and the cuemakers get the exposure....

I think this is good for everyone involved, customers..and cue builders!
 
I would say keep it appox 19.5 oz. and shaft be between 12.75mm and 13mm.

But this would have to be agreed on by everyone involved...
 
ftgokie said:
I would say keep it appox 19.5 oz. and shaft be between 12.75mm and 13mm.

But this would have to be agreed on by everyone involved...
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True
Taper is another thing to be agreed on. It would give a good idea on who makes the best shaft as well.
 
gunzby said:
True
Taper is another thing to be agreed on. It would give a good idea on who makes the best shaft as well.
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I agree on that as well.

Buddy Hall is at Magoos in Tulsa all the time. I will talk to him and see if he is willing to give us his input on these cues as well....Maybe this is something he will do, maybe not, but I will talk to him this weekend when I see him.
 
I would say make the woods the same, but have the cuemaker use his signature joint, taper, etc. You can choose a tip size, but I wouldn't restrict them to a weight or taper. That would be my only suggestion.
 
shakes said:
I would say make the woods the same, but have the cuemaker use his signature joint, taper, etc. You can choose a tip size, but I wouldn't restrict them to a weight or taper. That would be my only suggestion.
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Yea, i think your exactly right....have them use whatever taper that they use...and keep the weight between 19-20oz...does that sound reasonable?
 
It's interesting that you posted this because I had a very similar thought the other day while driving. I was thinking that if AZ could somehow get even lower to mid-level cuemakers to put one of their cues together that they felt was representative of how their respective cue brand played, then we could "rent" the cue for a trial leaving a credit card deposit or something for security and of course paying shipping. Maybe even a small fee could be charged to pay for that initial cue eventually. I would think it would help out cuemakers with drumming up business and help us out as players when deciding who we want making the next cue for us without buying blindly. I think it's a good idea and good luck with getting it going.:thumbup:
 
I really like this idea. What about the tip.Same on all the cues or whatever the maker decides. I would be willing to purchase one of the cues after a list gets put together,as long as they are reasonably priced for plain janes.
For woods what about curly or birdseye for forearms. With or without points? Other woods I like are cocobola, tulipwood,bacote,olive wood,snakewood(to expensive),hell just about anything as long as its made into a cue:thumbup: .
Have a local builder who has some sweet shaft wood too. Been looking for a reason to tell the GF why I need another cue too:D . He is very reasonably priced too.
 
Just curious, and I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade, but I think this has been proposed several time in the past, and not gone over. Most mid(and all high) end cuemakers simply aren't interested in this. Almost all are back-logged as it is, and don't see these ideas as significantly increasing their business. Don't get me wrong, I think it is a fantastic idea, I really do. I think it could help a lot of people in terms of deciding what cuemaker to go with. But before anyone gets too excited, you should try to contact some cuemakers here at az and gauge their interest level. Good luck, and I hope it works!
 
muttley76 said:
Just curious, and I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade, but I think this has been proposed several time in the past, and not gone over. Most mid(and all high) end cuemakers simply aren't interested in this. Almost all are back-logged as it is, and don't see these ideas as significantly increasing their business. Don't get me wrong, I think it is a fantastic idea, I really do. I think it could help a lot of people in terms of deciding what cuemaker to go with. But before anyone gets too excited, you should try to contact some cuemakers here at az and gauge their interest level. Good luck, and I hope it works!
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For me..I dont want high end cuemakers to participate....like you said....they probbaly wouldnt be interested...and what I am going after is reasonable priced cues....

There are 2 cuemakers so far that have agreed to participate....

I think we should do this as a blind test...where there is no name or identifying marks on each cue. The 2 cuemakers that have agreed to participate thinks this is a great idea....

I think we should make this as simple as we can..
 
So just to make it clear, the cues will be the same wood for forearm and butt. Tip, taper, weight, joint and pin type the same?

I would like to participate in this.

If the CM doesnt put their label on the cue, how can we separate them and the shafts apart, assuming we get them in one batch?
 
Great idea.

ftgokie said:
Here is something you that may be fun for all of us if anyone is willing to do this.

Have 3-4 cue makers make a simple cue to the same specs, and we send them around to some members to try out and us give feedback for the rest of the members to go off of.

This may or may not be something that could be done,just trying to see if I should pursue this or not.

I would buy the cues, if you wanted to participate, then you pay for shipping from me to you, then to the next person that wants to try them out. After everyone s done, I pay for shipping back to me.

If this sounds like something that you would want to participate in, let me know.

We would also need to get 2,3 or 4 cue makers names that you think you would like to try out..


I am just seeing if this may or may not be something that we could do as a forum...
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I think this is a great idea. I think all results should be kept hidden until everyone involved has played with each cue and had a chance to try each cue out. If the results are kept until the end it would keep people from being influenced by others.
 
bullshooter69 said:
I think this is a great idea. I think all results should be kept hidden until everyone involved has played with each cue and had a chance to try each cue out. If the results are kept until the end it would keep people from being influenced by others.
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This is my feelings exactly.

we will put some type of markings on each cue and shaft

say for instance

cuemaker 1 puts #1 somewhere on butt of cue, and #1 on shaft part that meets up with the butt....

cuemaker 2 puts #2 on same location on butt, and #2 on shaft

they put the cuemaker # in sharpie.

The following picture is how the number will identify each cuemaker

Shaftid022.jpg
 
ftgokie,

I would like to be one of your testers (who wouldn't). I'm already helping to promote the custom cue business with a detailed comparison page on my website, Pool Student's Blog where I list 22 different pieces of information about each participating cuemaker.

I think this would be very interesting to do, especially if you can conduct a double blind test, where you and the participants do not know which cue is which.

Good luck, I'll be following along here at AZB looking for your reports.
 
I think if they took them to dcc or vf and let people hit with them and then vote it would be great. Large audience, large participation etc

Raffle them off (if legal at the venues, or donate to charity when done...of course pay the cuemakers, but anything above cost goes to charity)
 
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