Antique One Pocket table

One Pocket Table

In the very early sixties in Kansas City, about 46th or 47th and Troost
there were a couple of these one pocket tables along with three cushion and snooker tables. I think only three or four regulation pocket tables. Soon after the Hustler movie came out, the one pocket and snooker tables went away pretty much. We all wanted to play 14.1, eight ball, 3-cushion, then later 9-ball. One pocket was played, on the pocket tables occasionally. I wish I had played more one pocket. We were banking fools in those days.

1pocket said:

Actually I guess they call the game "Corners" in that part of the country. Someone contacted me from Missouri with photos of this table, which the club it is located in is apparently going to be selling off. They are wondering what the value might be. They say it does not have a name plate. Even I (definitely not a table mechanic) can see that the rail bolts have been moved -- maybe a couple of times.

Who knows, maybe one of you guys knows this particular table even... what can you tell us about it?

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Hey Steve,

Looks like a combination of an old Brunswick with a set of modified carom rails adapted to fit. I'm positive the rails are not original to the slates, that would explain the additional rail bolt holes. It's also possible that the original carom slates were swapped out from a different table.

As far as the person or company who performed the work, I'm sure it wasn't any of the well known company's such as AE Schmidt, the work is much to crude, more than likely a local handy man/carpenter.

Establishing the value of this table is tricky because of it's uniqueness and poorly executed conversation. Most pool tables of this era and condition are in the $500-$1500 range, however that is for a complete 6 pocket table. As a "corners" table it's value could be higher if they found a buyer interested in the historical value of this rare conversion. If nothing else it is a conversation piece for sure...:smile:

It's always great to get together with you and talk one pocket and three cushion billiards...:smile: This table has our two favorite games in one...LOL. Steve, hope to see you at Mazin's for the 3 cushion tournament on Thursday night. Maybe some banks and one hole also.

See Ya.
Jay

1pocket said:

Thanks Jay. Isn't it funny that I post this in the world-wide web and get a response from a local guy I've know for .... 40 years. Gotta love it.

This brings up a question though, did pocket tables and billiard tables have different bolt locations in the slate -- given that there are no pockets in the way of the bolts on a billiard table? Does that tell us anything?

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Not really, If the rails and slate were originally part of a set there would have been no need to drill new holes. Many old Brunswick's were "convertibles" , meaning you could bolt up billiard or pool rails to the same slate.

After looking at the table pictures again I would venture to say that this was a pool table. They found a set of carom rails from a different manufacturer, re drilled the rails to fit the existing slate and cut the pocket openings in the end and side rails creating the corner pockets.

I could be wrong, but it wouldn't be the first time...:wink:

Jay

Id love to have this table!!

anyone know of anything like this forsale?

Years ago I saw 2 of these in SW Missouri. I think I remember them as being AE Schmidtt tables. They could be ordered like this. Found that out from Schmidtt.

Funny thing was, when I watched a game of 1Pocket on these, the rack was on the other end, not where the pockets are. Must have screwed up some of the road players.

I thought that table was for a numbers game where a wood board is placed on one end with numbered holes for balls to fall in.

As many times as I scratch, I sure could use a table like that to play one pocket

If anyone runs into a table like this, I'd LOVE to hear about it (if it's for sale)

A-1 billiards said:

Not really, If the rails and slate were originally part of a set there would have been no need to drill new holes. Many old Brunswick's were "convertibles" , meaning you could bolt up billiard or pool rails to the same slate.

After looking at the table pictures again I would venture to say that this was a pool table. They found a set of carom rails from a different manufacturer, re drilled the rails to fit the existing slate and cut the pocket openings in the end and side rails creating the corner pockets.

I could be wrong, but it wouldn't be the first time...:wink:

Jay

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A lot of the ten footers were made into 9 footers also, not sure if that has any bearing on this setup.