No good game?

aj6788

aj6788

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I've noticed that people don't like to get beat, I don't like to lose, but when I do, I say good game and shake hands. I know most people have the courtesy to say the same. There is a small handful that don't after a match, especially if they think they should have won.

I helped my friend in setting up a tournament... I had my own personal disagreements of the choices that were made in setting it up. My biggest one was: Short notice, not many people will know so a small turn out. Less then a 2 week notice, bummer. I was also worried of the fact that we were friends and playing in a tournament might not be a good idea with our competitive nature.

A few days before the tournament started, I found out my friend had said a few words about me, and that they would kick my ass throughought the tournement and i was no threat. IMO I know I am better, maybe not 10 steps better, but I knew I was. I just laughed at people and said that my friend would never say that. After hearing it more then once, I just said we would find out during the tournament and then we could have bragging rights.

Day of the tournament, I talked with my friend about how we should play our best no matter what still shoot pool on the weekends together. My friend agreed, we shook hands and gave everyone hell throughout the tournie. We both made it to the top... Lastly we had to play each other to knock one of us into the losers bracket. (9-ball) Unfortunately, this was really my first tournament, I will admit I choked... I scratched on a 9 and left two 9 hanging for my friend... I got sent to the losers side. I lost 4-5... IMO it shouldn't have gone that far. I knew I would get back to my friend and I would have to win two sets in a row to take 1st place. So I get back to the winners side and beat my friend both sets 5-2.. My friend snapped in a 9 in both sets.

After I made the last 9 I walked over shook hands and said good game, packed up, my friend didn't say anything to me.. I figured because I made a comeback and won, my friend was mad at me. Well, after a week or so I tried calling to play some pool... No answer no call back.. I tried texting.. No answer... Tried asking through our friends... Nothing...

About 2 weeks ago, I find out why my friend is giving me the cold shoulder! One of my buddies from the pool hall my friend plays out of called me and told me that I was accused of cheating. That I put an exptra game on the wire on my side. When I heard that I didn't believe it! Why should I be accused of cheating?! There was a crowd there watching, I knew I could win, I didn't need any extra games on the wire to proove it!


Long... Getting there....a few days later I get another call... From another person out of the pool hall (I use to be a local there but I just recently moved...) Now my friend is talking trash about me. I'm not happy but I smile about it knowing I still said good game and I got nothing in return.


Now I'm hearing it more and more, even from people in my pool hall are questioning it because they know I wouldn't do that.... But I must defend my name right??

Should I ask my friend to put the money on the lights? For bragging rights and for what the tournament was worth to them?

The reason why I ask is because I'm setting up a tournament for the fall time, and I know if my friend is out there trying to ruin my name, I might get a bad turn out and a bad rep....



Sorry this is long.. I just figured more information known about this I might get some more opinions....




Thanks,
AJ
 
That is a really bad deal. I think you really need to track down your "friend" and have a face to face and ask why he is talking so much smack. Maybe get him to put his money where his mouth is and prove it out once and for all in public.

Or you could just stab him...:D
 
Too Dangerous

You shouldn't tackle a problem like this all by yourself, much too dangerous
But consider yourself lucky and your timing impeccable
If I understand correctly, your needed assistance is right here on A-Z and currently offering a discount.

PM Crawfish for further details
 
Zud said:
You shouldn't tackle a problem like this all by yourself, much too dangerous
But consider yourself lucky and your timing impeccable
If I understand correctly, your needed assistance is right here on A-Z and currently offering a discount.

PM Crawfish for further details
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yep, I've heard Craw is the man for all your knifing needs :p:cool:
 
Hate to say it, but he doesn't sound like much of a friend. Let your rep stand for itself and take the high road. If he wants to settle it on the table, so be it. Set the record straight face to face so there's no misunderstanding, the only way things get done right.
 
POCKETWOLF has it right

POCKETWOLF said:
Hate to say it, but he doesn't sound like much of a friend. Let your rep stand for itself and take the high road. If he wants to settle it on the table, so be it. Set the record straight face to face so there's no misunderstanding, the only way things get done right.
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First off, not much of a friend if this caused so much grief in the friendship. He got his butt kicked 5-2 twice, what difference does he think the imagined stolen game would have made? I would talk to him about this at the pool hall or somewhere else there are other people. Face to face and alone you might have to bounce test him which would definitely derail any hope of even being playing partners and semi-friends again. I have to admit that when I had someone spreading lies about me I simply went to his home and relied on a little nonverbal communication. Worked well but would probably get you arrested today.

Hu
 
It's a female....

ShootingArts said:
First off, not much of a friend if this caused so much grief in the friendship. He got his butt kicked 5-2 twice, what difference does he think the imagined stolen game would have made? I would talk to him about this at the pool hall or somewhere else there are other people. Face to face and alone you might have to bounce test him which would definitely derail any hope of even being playing partners and semi-friends again. I have to admit that when I had someone spreading lies about me I simply went to his home and relied on a little nonverbal communication. Worked well but would probably get you arrested today.

Hu
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My issue is this... Turn that testosterone you are imagining and replace it with a lot of estrogen.... When I lost the first time to her... she had a big grin of accomplishment... Honestly I knew I should have won that is why I came back and had to beat her twice....

This is why I don't really get along with chicks.. fairly moody, say the wrong thing to some it will be the last thing you remember!

I've been trying for a couple of weeks now to just call and text and be civil.. but I am really ready to go to her pool hall and ask her for a game.... I honestly want to work this out.. I just don't like being accused of cheating.

IMO, if she thought I was cheating, why didn't she ask about it right then and there when "I put an extra game on the wire"??? Why did she wait until the tournie was all said and done with? I am honestly thinking she may just be saying that to make herself look good? I don't know.. I want to forget about it.. but I have a good name for myself, other pool halls are starting to know who I am as soon as I say my name. I don't even know them and it is my first time there! I don't want this situation to ruin what I have going for myself...
 
So the he is a she. Well, it changes a few things, but you still need to confront her if it's that important to you. Don't even try to guess what she is thinking, you'd be the first man in history to guess what a woman thinks correctly. Put it out in the open and settle it, one way or the other.Good luck...
 
Right you are!!!

pocketwolf said:
so the he is a she. Well, it changes a few things, but you still need to confront her if it's that important to you. don't even try to guess what she is thinking, you'd be the first man in history to guess what a woman thinks correctly. put it out in the open and settle it, one way or the other.good luck...
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amen!!!!!!!!!!!

Better chance of picking the winning powerball numbers.
 
Dude that is f'd up man, but it sounds sadly like something a girl, or boy, would do.

Certainly isn't a friend of yours and never was. Despite how well you two might have been getting along before this, fact of the matter is that she obviously never felt the same way you did.

Manipulative people I swear.. just can't get rid of them.
 
The advice is still the same

Force a conversation about it in front of other people. Just as soon clear the air and get your side of the story on the street.

Hu



aj6788 said:
My issue is this... Turn that testosterone you are imagining and replace it with a lot of estrogen.... When I lost the first time to her... she had a big grin of accomplishment... Honestly I knew I should have won that is why I came back and had to beat her twice....

This is why I don't really get along with chicks.. fairly moody, say the wrong thing to some it will be the last thing you remember!

I've been trying for a couple of weeks now to just call and text and be civil.. but I am really ready to go to her pool hall and ask her for a game.... I honestly want to work this out.. I just don't like being accused of cheating.

IMO, if she thought I was cheating, why didn't she ask about it right then and there when "I put an extra game on the wire"??? Why did she wait until the tournie was all said and done with? I am honestly thinking she may just be saying that to make herself look good? I don't know.. I want to forget about it.. but I have a good name for myself, other pool halls are starting to know who I am as soon as I say my name. I don't even know them and it is my first time there! I don't want this situation to ruin what I have going for myself...
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I'm with rellek, just stab her.

I'm kidding, just adding to his comedic relief. You've talked about your rep, and that's very important. I haven't been in the game for a long time but I always tell my employees, "Do the right thing at the right time for the right reason and we'll never have any problems." IMHO that's enough.

All the people that were at the tourney HAVE to know you didn't do anything shady. Women do have a distinct ability at making men believe the impossible. Vampires call it "glamouring". :smile:

Keep doing the right thing when it comes to your game and your communication with her. What that right thing is for you I don't know. But based strictly on what you've written here you're a stand up guy and shouldn't have any worries going forward.

How to deal with her in my opinion, I think you've done enough. Maybe you'll throw us a spin and put a romantic twist to it and I'll have to recant half of what I've written but I honestly believe, based on what you've said, you're a man that has honor in him, and that stands for something in my book. Hopefully others.

Good luck with it and good racks...and if you're ever in Wichita we can drink some beers and I'll, by no choice of my own, lose a bunch of sets to you and never call you a cheater.

Mattie
 
What a sad situation. You need to learn one of the main rules of spending time in a pool hall: "There are no friends in the pool hall"
 
Now's a good time...

POCKETWOLF:
Don't even try to guess what she is thinking, you'd be the first man in history to guess what a woman thinks correctly.

I can't agree more.. I can never think what woman are thinking.. Very unpredictable! Thanks!


paksat:
Certainly isn't a friend of yours and never was. Despite how well you two might have been getting along before this, fact of the matter is that she obviously never felt the same way you did.

I guess she never did. Don't need that kind of a friend really. I'm just ready and tired of this BS that I will drive to her and have her put money on the lights.... Horrible, I don't want it to end like this. I would rather just shake hands and be done with the stupid thing! Thanks!


ShootingArts:
Force a conversation about it in front of other people. Just as soon clear the air and get your side of the story on the street.

I might just have to do that, I just don't know when she will always be there, half the time she is drinking too... I would hate to say the wrong thing and her flip out on me! Last thing I want is to make a big scene of this unfortunate event. I bet that if I do confront her in front of people, she will deny the whole thing and ask to just play a couple of games.. Maybe that is just wishful thinking of the whole situation though! Thanks!


mattiefingaz:
I'm with rellek, just stab her.

I'm kidding, just adding to his comedic relief. You've talked about your rep, and that's very important. I haven't been in the game for a long time but I always tell my employees, "Do the right thing at the right time for the right reason and we'll never have any problems." IMHO that's enough.

All the people that were at the tourney HAVE to know you didn't do anything shady. Women do have a distinct ability at making men believe the impossible. Vampires call it "glamouring".

Keep doing the right thing when it comes to your game and your communication with her. What that right thing is for you I don't know. But based strictly on what you've written here you're a stand up guy and shouldn't have any worries going forward.

How to deal with her in my opinion, I think you've done enough. Maybe you'll throw us a spin and put a romantic twist to it and I'll have to recant half of what I've written but I honestly believe, based on what you've said, you're a man that has honor in him, and that stands for something in my book. Hopefully others.

Good luck with it and good racks...and if you're ever in Wichita we can drink some beers and I'll, by no choice of my own, lose a bunch of sets to you and never call you a cheater.

I haven't been in the game that long either, I just hit my 21 month mark on my 21st birthday! Maybe I should just stab her... Then run away FAST! I don't think with her I can do the right thing. For one she was talking trash about my game before the tournie, I was waiting for the tournie to prove I'm the better player. Obviously I am! I don't want to toot my own horn, but be careful, I'm coming up in the ranks! Ha Ha. And about the romance twise... Heck no! Not my taste! People were watching the game.. That's what gets to me, if people believe her.. How?! They were there, i didn't cheat! Honestly if she really thought I had cheated, don't you think she would have voiced her opinion about that! Woman will point out mistakes and will be the first to call someone out in the wrong! If I'm ever in the area we can definitely have a couple of drinks! Thanks!


Dead Money:
"There are no friends in the pool hall"

I do agree with that but also disagree. I know there are good people out there, and that isn't wishful thinking. That's the truth. But I know I can't trust everyone that walks through the doors because someone is always looking to hustle one way or another! Thanks!
 
dealing with women

You need to learn how to relate to women. Just say "I'm sorry, you're right, I'll never do it again."
Rod. <-- never won an argument with one.
 
androd said:
You need to learn how to relate to women. Just say "I'm sorry, you're right, I'll never do it again."
Rod. <-- never won an argument with one.
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Unfortunately men have taken the easy route like this for to long. Which has enabled women to become worse and worse b*tches.....

stand up for yourselves you "men"!
 
I'd have to confront her

That's payback for not calling her the day after. :eek:

I think she still wants you.

J/K!


Yeah, what Hu said. Find her and in front of people, but maintain your dignity regardless of how she responds. Maybe she forgot a game you'd won along the way, then popped off due to lemotion, subsequently had to back up her assertion and couldn't back down.

This absolutely sucks and would eat at me until I at least tried to do something about it.

I'd ask "How would you feel if 4 different people approached YOU and said they heard you cheated? How highly do you regard your reputation? This really stings an has been eating at me! "

Good luck, and feel free to revive this thread at a later date and let us know how things concluded.

Good luck.

Matt
 
aj6788 said:
People were watching the game.. That's what gets to me, if people believe her.. How?! They were there, i didn't cheat! Honestly if she really thought I had cheated, don't you think she would have voiced her opinion about that! Woman will point out mistakes and will be the first to call someone out in the wrong!
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Well, I don't know how it is that people who were sitting right there believe her, but I definitely have a thought about why she did it the way she did it (I think yours was a rhetorical question but I'm answering anyway :embarrassed2:). If she'd accused you while you were still playing the set (whether or not she believed it), you (being the gentleman you obviously are) would have most likely taken a game off the string, right? And then you still would have beaten her. This way, there's always the question (in whoever's mind she chooses to put it) of who would've won had the score been "right".

Is she in competition with you in particular for some reason? Did she introduce you to pool and now you've surpassed her or something? I'm not looking for an excuse for her; I'm just curious.
 
Throughout your first post you referred to her as your friend. True friends wouldn't slander you like she did. Your true friends who know you, know you're not a cheat, the people who believe her don't count. The damage is done and who cares what they think. The more you make issue with this, the more you'll look guilty. Best thing to do is ignore, ignore, ignore. Next time you see her, walk right past her like you've never seen her before in your life. She'll get the idea, after all, she knows shes lying. If anything, make her come to you.
 
run away. period. you know her true character, that wont change, you will just be counting down until the next time it happens.
 
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