AZ'ers Can you help ID?

Kobachi · Nov 5, 2009

Hello all,

I posted pics of this cue about 4-5 years ago, got a few suggestions (Adams, Helmstetter...) but thought I'd get a fresh set of eyes on it, maybe someone might have come across one of these at some point.

4 points, 4 veneers (green red green black)
2 windows in butt w/ green red green
looks like mop in boxes, and dots above, below.
maple stitch rings
Bumper has small phillips screw going into hex bolt, about 6" long.
I'm not good with joint screws, 5/16? Like a meucci.

The kicker is what looks like PR on the butt...no clue what it stands for.

Thanks for taking a look and I appreciate any input

p.s. it's an ebay cue which was delivered to me from the east coast about 6-7 yrs ago.

Thanks again everyone.

Kobachi · Nov 5, 2009

more pics...

here's a few more pics...thanks again.

Kobachi · Nov 5, 2009

the joint...

I think that's lacquer that's flaking off of the joint...maybe a bad refinish? I dunno...

Kobachi · Nov 5, 2009

Here's the PR...

forgot to throw one of these in too...

Drawman623 · Nov 5, 2009

Doesn't look like Paul Rubino.

I'll think about it... PR PR PR

Blue Hog ridr · Feb 14, 2012

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Chopdoc · Feb 14, 2012

I have seen a total of three of these recently.

I am thinking right now that somebody had them imported and branded. Kind of like the SlyFox cues....maybe a store chain, bar/restaurant chan. I know Dave& Busters did them. Clicks did them.....many have done them. The Clicks cues were Huebler of course.

I think these are Taiwan cues. Not sure though.

prulhiere cues · Mar 5, 2012

I used to own one of these. They are an import cue, and nearly impossible to find any info on. The name of the cue is a Penray.

Most of them that I have ever seen, were made in the mid to late 80's

Chopdoc · Mar 5, 2012

You just solved a real mystery. We've been trying to place these for a while!

:thumbup:

I figured they were Taiwan cues......

Chopdoc · Mar 5, 2012

The post is from 2009 and he says he's been trying to find out the ID since five years before.....and it's now 2012!

That would put it around eight years to identify that cue. Is that a record? Is there a prize? LOL! :thumbup:

prulhiere cues · Mar 5, 2012

What do I win???? I like cash

Kobachi · Mar 6, 2012

prulhiere cues said:
What do I win???? I like cash

Cash my friend you will not receive, but on your deathbed, you shall receive, total consciousness...so you've got that going for you...which is nice

Thanks Prulheire, I've kept this in the closet all these years, and you finally solved the mystery.

In between your post and me putting it away, I took the wrap off hoping to find something under there to help identify, no luck. I'll include a couple of pictures, looks like a full splice?

So if you're ever coming through Chicago, I'll get you a couple of beers, ya' know, for the effort

Amazing, this AZ place. Thanks guys,

Kevin.

Chopdoc · Mar 6, 2012

Now there is a prize!

Can't argue with beer man!

I dig the cue. It's surprising how many of these four point with veneer Taiwan cues are full splice.

With a good ferrule and tip many of them shoot just fine but usually they come with a crap ferrule and tip.

The shaft wood is hit or miss (mostly miss), many are crap, a few are average, and very few have really good shaft wood.

Glad you got it nailed down. I have actually been trying to figure out the PR cues for several months now. I was amazed when Prulhiere nonchalantly came along and was like "oh yeah, I know what that is".

prulhiere cues · Mar 6, 2012

Oh....I know what that is....LOL

acedonkeyace · Apr 5, 2012

I have 2 of these cues and I got my answer, now, what is the VALUE!!

I have on that is a duplicate to the one that had the wrap removed?

I also, have a Wrapless, Solid Piece of Birdseye Maple, with rings, very nice quality BEM. This one is in 98% condition.

HOW much??

$100.00 or closer to $300.00

The 4 point cost, $370.00 in 1989, just for info sake.

Value today??

Mike 'acedonkeayce' Kennedy

lawrence526 · Dec 27, 2015

prulhiere cues said:
I used to own one of these. They are an import cue, and nearly impossible to find any info on. The name of the cue is a Penray.

Most of them that I have ever seen, were made in the mid to late 80's

That's more info than I had, thanks a mil.......Larry

ideologist · Dec 28, 2015

acedonkeyace said:
I have on that is a duplicate to the one that had the wrap removed?

I also, have a Wrapless, Solid Piece of Birdseye Maple, with rings, very nice quality BEM. This one is in 98% condition.

HOW much??

$100.00 or closer to $300.00

The 4 point cost, $370.00 in 1989, just for info sake.

Value today??

Mike 'acedonkeayce' Kennedy

It would maybe get $150 on eBay, but probably less.

Bigb'scues · Dec 28, 2015

This is most definitely a blank produced by Adams... They had a lot of 1 off name brands in the 80s

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