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Try sending an email to realkingcobra, who installs Diamond tables. He should be able to tell you the difference between the two. Let us know what you find out!
As an alternative to contacting RKC, try contacting Diamond by email or by telephone to get your questions answered.
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Sweet Marissa
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Both play the same to me, but I prefer the Diamond Pro because of the drop pockets. I love the sound of the balls being potted as much as the sound of the balls hitting each other.
Besides the 1 piece slate of the P-A the main difference between the two is the styling. They definitely look different from each other.
BTW, I don't see $8,900 for the Professional w/light. I saw $4,950 to $5,350 (dymondwood) plus $800 for the light. Unless you are looking at the more exotic woods this doesn't get you to 9 grand. Here's where I was looking: http://www.diamondbilliards.net/HomeTables/TheProfessional/tabid/59/Default.aspx Scroll down just past the color swatches.
BTW, I don't see $8,900 for the Professional w/light. I saw $4,950 to $5,350 (dymondwood) plus $800 for the light. Unless you are looking at the more exotic woods this doesn't get you to 9 grand. Here's where I was looking: http://www.diamondbilliards.net/HomeTables/TheProfessional/tabid/59/Default.aspx Scroll down just past the color swatches.
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Just be sure there is nothing funky about getting the the 1 piece model into your home, like up stairs, around corners etc. You will be more than happy with either one, whichever you choose. :wink:
I have a 9' Pro and my buddy Big Truck has a 9' Pro Am. Both were setup by RKC and to me they play identical. I also have ball return, which seems to be a rare option on the Pro. Not as fast as the Pro Am, but still nice to have. I think the one-piece slate will be the biggest factor if you want it in your house. Which ever one you choose, try and get RKC to set it up. If not him, then SDBilliards.
I thought the different between the Pro and the Pro-am was the pocket size?
Pro being tigher, 4 3/8in
Pro-am being 4 5/8in
OR something close to these dimensions.
Please if anyone know's please post the facts, I'm going to be purchasing one in the next few months and I was looking to get the Pro because of the tigher pockets, and 1 piece slate, but if the pro-am has the same pockets and 1-piece slate that opens my options up quit a bit.
Pro being tigher, 4 3/8in
Pro-am being 4 5/8in
OR something close to these dimensions.
Please if anyone know's please post the facts, I'm going to be purchasing one in the next few months and I was looking to get the Pro because of the tigher pockets, and 1 piece slate, but if the pro-am has the same pockets and 1-piece slate that opens my options up quit a bit.
Diamond Pro-Am Table
Diamond Professional Table
Edit -- later posters have determined that the Professional model currently is offered only with drop pockets.
- one-piece slate
- slate 1" thick
- ball return only
- rails -- DymondWood only (a hard wood/plastic composite), with angled corners
- four separate, 4-sided legs
Diamond Professional Table
- three-piece slate
- slate 30mm (1.18") thick (or at least it used to be)
- choice of drop pockets or ball return
- rails -- choice of DymondWood or several types of real hardwood, with rounded corners
- two leg pedestals
Edit -- later posters have determined that the Professional model currently is offered only with drop pockets.
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I don't believe this is the case. I think you are confusing the pro cut and league cut pockets with table styles.
The pro cut pockets are 4 1/2" and the league cut are 4 3/4" I believe.
The difference between the pro and proam tables are like most have mentioned. The proam is designed to be off loaded all assembled with the one piece slate to make it quicker to move in for tournaments. The pro is more of a commercial grade home table with 3 piece slate. I believe RKC said you can put 3 piece slate on the proam if you want and 1 piece on the pro. I have a proam and like it quite a bit.
Like others have mentioned, if you have stairs and tight corners to negotiate while moving the table in your house, the pro might be the way to go.
i like the rounded corners and pedestal legs on the pro myself but drool over the 1 piece slate of the pro am
wonder if u could get that slate on the pro
wonder if u could get that slate on the pro
I recall reading another thread around here where Mark Griffin mentioned you can order either table with whatever size pockets you want. Maybe you are referring to the "Pro-cut" vs. regular pockets. The pro-cut pockets have the deeper shelf and I believe are available on either table, but this can be confirmed with a simple phone call. Most of the pro tournaments are played with the pro-cut pockets at 4.5".
Pro or Pro-AM?
I have had both... I believe the pro-am to be the better of the two. The pro am has 22 balance points on the playing surface and one each per leg. When Glen (The Real King Cobra) sets up and balances, there is no better playing table in the world than the pro-am. I also highly recommend the new Aramith Tournament balls. They play awesome. I replaced my centenials.
I am surprised at your pricing.... $8,900.00 for the pro?
Cross-Side-Larry
Learn from the best, and beat the rest.
I have had both... I believe the pro-am to be the better of the two. The pro am has 22 balance points on the playing surface and one each per leg. When Glen (The Real King Cobra) sets up and balances, there is no better playing table in the world than the pro-am. I also highly recommend the new Aramith Tournament balls. They play awesome. I replaced my centenials.
I am surprised at your pricing.... $8,900.00 for the pro?
Cross-Side-Larry
Learn from the best, and beat the rest.
OK guys, here's the run down between the two tables.
ProAm;
The ProAm is the REAL commercial model of table from Diamond, and as far as I'm concerned, the only real COMMERCIAL model of pool table in the world.
Description; Comes with a one piece slate, 1" thick. Has dymondwood on the rails and skirts, can be ordered with natural wood rails as well, but I don't recommend it because they will show wear in time.
The table can be disassembled, carried piece by piece into the location and reassembled. Yes, this table can be fitted with a 30mm (1 3/16") slate, but you'll have to give up the 22 point leveling system as 18 of the levelers can't be applied because of how the 3 piece slate is mounted, so the level of the slate is done with wedges from the outside under the slate, no difference in the final out come of overall level though, both ways will get you there.
The table only comes with an internal ball return system because the table can't be fitted with drop pockets.
The ProAm also has one of the widest leg stances of any table on the market, which means the table sits like a bulldog, strong and steady, HARD to shake or move once in place.
Pockets are available in 4 1/2" procut, or 4 3/4" league cut.
Slate shelf depth is the same on both tables, the Pro or ProAm.
The ProAm's main frame is of a box design with 1 1/2" plywood stood on end being the main support, very strong construction.
Diamond Professional;
The Pro is available in either a 1 piece or 3 piece slate, same as the ProAm. Pocket openings are the same. Rail finish is either natural wood, or dymondwood, with natural wood skirts.
NO ball return is currently being offered with the Professional at this time!
The Pro is available with the multi-point leveling system with either slates.
The Pro uses a timber-strand frame system for the slate and rail support.
Both Tables;
Share the Artemis Intercontinental K55 cushions, the same leather bi-level pocket liners. The same pocket openings, the same slates, the same slate shelf depth.
Glen, need some coffee before I can think anymore:grin:
PS. The ProAm holds a much higher resale value as well, should you EVER decide to sell the table too:grin:
ProAm;
The ProAm is the REAL commercial model of table from Diamond, and as far as I'm concerned, the only real COMMERCIAL model of pool table in the world.
Description; Comes with a one piece slate, 1" thick. Has dymondwood on the rails and skirts, can be ordered with natural wood rails as well, but I don't recommend it because they will show wear in time.
The table can be disassembled, carried piece by piece into the location and reassembled. Yes, this table can be fitted with a 30mm (1 3/16") slate, but you'll have to give up the 22 point leveling system as 18 of the levelers can't be applied because of how the 3 piece slate is mounted, so the level of the slate is done with wedges from the outside under the slate, no difference in the final out come of overall level though, both ways will get you there.
The table only comes with an internal ball return system because the table can't be fitted with drop pockets.
The ProAm also has one of the widest leg stances of any table on the market, which means the table sits like a bulldog, strong and steady, HARD to shake or move once in place.
Pockets are available in 4 1/2" procut, or 4 3/4" league cut.
Slate shelf depth is the same on both tables, the Pro or ProAm.
The ProAm's main frame is of a box design with 1 1/2" plywood stood on end being the main support, very strong construction.
Diamond Professional;
The Pro is available in either a 1 piece or 3 piece slate, same as the ProAm. Pocket openings are the same. Rail finish is either natural wood, or dymondwood, with natural wood skirts.
NO ball return is currently being offered with the Professional at this time!
The Pro is available with the multi-point leveling system with either slates.
The Pro uses a timber-strand frame system for the slate and rail support.
Both Tables;
Share the Artemis Intercontinental K55 cushions, the same leather bi-level pocket liners. The same pocket openings, the same slates, the same slate shelf depth.
Glen, need some coffee before I can think anymore:grin:
PS. The ProAm holds a much higher resale value as well, should you EVER decide to sell the table too:grin:
Pockets
There is even a tighter pocket size available upon request. I believe it is 4 1/4 inches.
The Pro is now made with pedestal legs and the balancing system previously available only on the Pro-Am. Here is a photo of the pedestal-leg Pro:
There is even a tighter pocket size available upon request. I believe it is 4 1/4 inches.
The Pro is now made with pedestal legs and the balancing system previously available only on the Pro-Am. Here is a photo of the pedestal-leg Pro:
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I know both ball return and drop pocket have certain advantages and can be personal choice but I prefer drop pockets.
For me it is easier to retrieve CB on a scratch. Don't make the noise of the returns. Easier to track what pocket the ball dropped in and what ball it is.
There are a lot of drills that make it easier with drop pockets but there may be some that favor ball return.
Why do you favor the ball return?
For me it is easier to retrieve CB on a scratch. Don't make the noise of the returns. Easier to track what pocket the ball dropped in and what ball it is.
There are a lot of drills that make it easier with drop pockets but there may be some that favor ball return.
Why do you favor the ball return?