DMIRO Tour News

DrMikeUSN · 02:39 PM

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easy-e · 02-01-2010, 08:07 PM

I am having email trouble right now. Can someone please email Mike and ask him what will happen with all of the money that was taken from the prize pools to be added to the year end event at the expo? Last6 I heard I was in a free roll at this year's SBE, now it seems there will be no such tournament.

Chokenour · 02-02-2010, 08:22 AM

I was wondering the same thing since I qualified for the tournament

Nostroke · 02-02-2010, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Chokenour

I was wondering the same thing since I qualified for the tournament

Email him and post reply here since he is being a ****.

DrMikeUSN · 02:40 PM

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JamisonNeu · 02-02-2010, 11:21 AM

Sorry to hear this. Hope you do some good in Haiti.

mashokist · **Another lie -** 02-02-2010, 02:35 PM

I am so furious about this right now, that all I can say is I hope you understand that you lied to everyone you duped into entering into your events.

I could have gone and supported a LEGITIMATE tournament, the NYC championship at skyline, the same weekend I played this tournament. which may be one reason you didn't get the 50 ppl you were hoping for in the NYC area. Don't pawn off responsibility that what you hoped would happen didn't. if you would have had better planning and probably did better research you would have succeeded. but it seems to me that you just wanted to have fun and have no responsibilities.

I think you should split the money that you kept out of the pot and break it up evenly between all the ppl who played in the event that don't have sponsors.

This is terrible, and it is unfortunate that Haiti is a convienent excuse to let you get out of being truthful. you are a crook who isn't making good on what you told the country.

I may post more later, just so furious about this.

watchez · 02-02-2010, 02:47 PM

I am pretty positive that DMIRO was on the TAR stream this past week in the chat. He had time to chat but now has no time to discuss about what is going to happen to the funds of his tour.

I think he also had some negative things to say about the stream itself. Funny, too funny.

What about all the sponsorship product he received for future events? What is going to happen with that? It was nice for him to mention the sponsors but surely he has future product that was to be used in future events.

By the way, you might want to get out a map - no one would call Haiti as going 'overseas'. Are you part of the Red Cross or a contractor going to rebuild the country?

DrMikeUSN · 02:40 PM

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watchez · 02-03-2010, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DrMikeUSN

Ok so I will be taking care of the amateur players... Your entry fees are being paid. As far as our top ranked pro that is Shaun Wilkie. Shaun will have to get with Allen.

Here's the deal. Allen opened a checking account in NJ that I did not have access to. Therefore I kept all the yearend money in my own account, because that checking account I didn't have access to. Now there is a few hundred in that account, which I need to pay Shaun Wilkie's spot, but Allen said that money is staying in that account and he'll decided what do to with it. Well, Allen to date has made zero contribution to the tour, and has had very little input, now all of a sudden he wants some control.

So that is fine, he can deal with Shaun Wilkie from here, because that is who that money is owed to, in the form of an entry fee to the SBE Pro event.

I told him I was going to write this on the forums, and he said that's fine, I can write what I want and the players won't believe it. So take it how you wish. I have a backbone, and some credibility.

Last Year’s Amateur event paid out $26,675+- and had 700+ players @ 75.00 = $52,000+-

So if he makes 26K+- off the amateur event, what does he need that measly $300.00 in the checking account for? Pay Shan Wilkies Entry fee Allen, and I will send you the other $200 as I discussed on the phone. End of story.

Sorry to be a jerk, I call things how I see them, and I see and tell the truth. There was no bashing or bad mouthing in the post, it was all the truth. Now I get to sit back and wait for Allen Jr's reply telling me how he was right...

allen_jr · **figures... -** 02-03-2010, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DrMikeUSN

Ok so I will be taking care of the amateur players... Your entry fees are being paid. As far as our top ranked pro that is Shaun Wilkie. Shaun will have to get with Allen.

Here's the deal. Allen opened a checking account in NJ that I did not have access to. Therefore I kept all the yearend money in my own account, because that checking account I didn't have access to. Now there is a few hundred in that account, which I need to pay Shaun Wilkie's spot, but Allen said that money is staying in that account and he'll decided what do to with it. Well, Allen to date has made zero contribution to the tour, and has had very little input, now all of a sudden he wants some control.

So that is fine, he can deal with Shaun Wilkie from here, because that is who that money is owed to, in the form of an entry fee to the SBE Pro event.

I told him I was going to write this on the forums, and he said that's fine, I can write what I want and the players won't believe it. So take it how you wish. I have a backbone, and some credibility.

Last Year’s Amateur event paid out $26,675+- and had 700+ players @ 75.00 = $52,000+-

So if he makes 26K+- off the amateur event, what does he need that measly $300.00 in the checking account for? Pay Shan Wilkies Entry fee Allen, and I will send you the other $200 as I discussed on the phone. End of story.

Sorry to be a jerk, I call things how I see them, and I see and tell the truth. There was no bashing or bad mouthing in the post, it was all the truth. Now I get to sit back and wait for Allen Jr's reply telling me how he was right...

It figures I have to waste more time dealing with you, thanks Mike.

I'm glad you've seen fit to now try and throw my dad under the bus for this. You are even more ignorant than I thought.

Why don't you explain your plan correctly? My dad was brought on to add some credibility to your plan, which he liked. He was not brought on as an investor. He was brought on to oversee the tour, and make sure formats and payouts were correct. You insisted that you were financially prepared to invest your own money and time. Do you know what "insisted" means Mike?

Did you forget I was there when he opened the account in Jersey? You had to cash a deposit check because you were too broke to get out of Jersey. Since the check was written to the tour, an account had to be opened immediately. This was the first of many indications that you were vastly underqualified for the project you were about to attempt.

You did not have access to take money OUT of the account, but you could certainly deposit money into it. In fact, that is what you were supposed to be doing all along, so that the money for the year end event would be there. Again, my dad was overseeing the tour - not adding money to it. What happened to all the money you collected from players for the year end event? It was supposed to be in the account.... Did my dad not ask you repeatedly where that money was? There isn't even enough to cover Wilkie's entry into the pro event. And of course, you should know by now that my dad has spoken to Wilkie about this already.

Also, since you circumvented the main argument by attacking my dad, why don't you explain the full truth of why the tour isn't going to continue? My dad realized that you were inadequate and unscrupulous and decided not to continue the tour past this first year. If you weren't going "overseas", the tour would not continue under his name anyhow.

As far as the amateur event at the expo goes, again, you have no clue what you are talking about. To begin with, your math is completely wrong. The entry fee for the tournament includes a 4 day pass to the expo, which is normally $35. Out of the $75 collected, $50 goes into the prize pool, of which 100% is paid out, usually more. I know you're not good with numbers and stuff, maybe some other time I can help you figure it out. And I know you're not familiar with things like "profit", "operating costs", and "revenue" but the Expo doesn't just happen at the press of a button. Diamond doesn't bring those tables for free, Valley Forge doesn't just let us come in and use their 100,000 sq feet facility for funsies. Our staff of 55+ people likes to be compensated for their work. The list goes on Mike, perhaps if you learned how to operate at something besides a loss you'd understand. I tried to explain to you before you started this tour that you could not live on the road at $50/day and you had no model to even cover your costs. Yes, the Expo is profitable. People go into business to cover their costs, to make a profit and pay their bills, Mike - maybe if you understood this theory you would still have a tour instead of living with Grandma and being shipped off to Haiti.

You are in way over your head Mike, I suggest you back off. I hope readers realize I would have never been so outright and rude to you if you had not attempted to throw my dad under the bus for your failed attempt. From day one, you said you were FULLY prepared to invest your time and money to make this work. There was never any arrangement for my father to be investing money to your tour, was there?

If anyone has any questions about the tour or any of my fathers operations, you can call and speak with him directly at (609)652-6116.
He won't be leaving the country.

TimKrazyMon · 02-03-2010, 09:37 AM

So, if I'm understanding everything going on here, an inspired idea (a 10-ball tour) is going under & the endgame is going to be a *****fest. If this doesn't tell us that the billiards industry has issues, nothing will.

TimKrazyMon · 02-03-2010, 09:42 AM

So, if I'm understanding everything going on here, an inspired idea (a 10-ball tour) is going under & the endgame is going to be a *****fest. If this doesn't tell us that the billiards industry has issues, nothing will.

JamisonNeu · 02-03-2010, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DrMikeUSN

Ok so I will be taking care of the amateur players... Your entry fees are being paid. As far as our top ranked pro that is Shaun Wilkie. Shaun will have to get with Allen.

Here's the deal. Allen opened a checking account in NJ that I did not have access to. Therefore I kept all the yearend money in my own account, because that checking account I didn't have access to. Now there is a few hundred in that account, which I need to pay Shaun Wilkie's spot, but Allen said that money is staying in that account and he'll decided what do to with it. Well, Allen to date has made zero contribution to the tour, and has had very little input, now all of a sudden he wants some control.

So that is fine, he can deal with Shaun Wilkie from here, because that is who that money is owed to, in the form of an entry fee to the SBE Pro event.

I told him I was going to write this on the forums, and he said that's fine, I can write what I want and the players won't believe it. So take it how you wish. I have a backbone, and some credibility.

Last Year’s Amateur event paid out $26,675+- and had 700+ players @ 75.00 = $52,000+-

So if he makes 26K+- off the amateur event, what does he need that measly $300.00 in the checking account for? Pay Shaun Wilkies Entry fee Allen, and I will send you the other $200 as I discussed on the phone. End of story.

Sorry to be a jerk, I call things how I see them, and I see and tell the truth. There was no bashing or bad mouthing in the post, it was all the truth. Now I get to sit back and wait for Allen Jr's reply telling me how he was right...

Allen has been doing business in pool for 40 years. He is not a thief. In fact he has a credibility that is very hard to find in this game. You come to pool for a year, and try to run him through the back...Good luck with Haiti again hope you help someone.