Breaking with 314^2

~jj~

~jj~

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When I first got my 314^2 awhile back I was told that the ferrule was too thin and that breaking with it could cause the ferrule to crack. I did a search and only found a thread about breaking with a z^2. So I went ahead and got a break cue as well.

My question is how many people out there break hard with a predator shaft (not bk2) and is there any risk in damaging it? Also, isn't the bk2 shaft basically just a 314 shaft?

Thanks in advance.
 
~jj~ said:
My question is how many people out there break hard with a predator shaft (not bk2) and is there any risk in damaging it? Also, isn't the bk2 shaft basically just a 314 shaft?

Thanks in advance.
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I have a Z shaft, and I have broken with it almost exclusively for years. At times very hard. Nothing has happened to it. Unless you count the 2 ferrules Ive replaced, and the shaft tenon Ive snapped.
 
The BK2 shaft has a linen phenolic ferrule. That should tell you something.

I've broken with the 314-2 several times. No problem. I don't think that the ferrule is fragile. You don't have to worry about detonating it. However, it probably doesn't have a long lifespan in the breaking role. Which is why on the BK2 they use linen phenolic. That will survive years and years of constant power breaking. My guess is that the 314-2 will probably begin failing in a slow manner starting with tiny cracks. That's usually how most ferrules fail when they do.

If the 314-2 ferrule could survive with a long lifespan in the role of a break cue, they probably would have used it on the BK2 since the 314-2 is lower squirt/deflection than the BK2.
 
I've got the 314 fat shaft but I'm terrified to break with it. It's more money than I spent on anything else in pool. Would the fat one have a little more durability as a break stick? Especially given that I am a fairly crappy breaker?
 
A Ferrari is a precision-built automobile intended for speed and handling.
Would you pull a plow with it?

It's your Ferrari and you can do with it as you wish but please don't blame Ferrari when you've pulled the bumper off.
Do we need to talk about common sense?
 
Bola Ocho said:
The BK2 shaft has a linen phenolic ferrule. That should tell you something.

I've broken with the 314-2 several times. No problem. I don't think that the ferrule is fragile. You don't have to worry about detonating it. However, it probably doesn't have a long lifespan in the breaking role. Which is why on the BK2 they use linen phenolic. That will survive years and years of constant power breaking. My guess is that the 314-2 will probably begin failing in a slow manner starting with tiny cracks. That's usually how most ferrules fail when they do.

If the 314-2 ferrule could survive with a long lifespan in the role of a break cue, they probably would have used it on the BK2 since the 314-2 is lower squirt/deflection than the BK2.
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Predator 314-2 shafts are not designed to break with.....they are designed to be a low deflection playing shaft......one problem is the hollow section (air pocket) behind the ferrule......the thin ferrule due to the air pocket. The 314-2 does have a more durable ferrule than the original 314 which is a plastic material.

James
 
SCCues said:
Predator 314-2 shafts are not designed to break with.....they are designed to be a low deflection playing shaft......one problem is the hollow section (air pocket) behind the ferrule......the thin ferrule due to the air pocket. The 314-2 does have a more durable ferrule than the original 314 which is a plastic material.
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I've been guilty of breaking with my 314-2 shaft, but based on the discussion so far I guess I have to quit the habit. It's not like I break really hard with it, in fact I often get insulted for my super soft break, but I think I should quit breaking with it nevertheless. It's just that I'm too lazy to have bought a break cue for myself and I hate to break with the house cues.

It's like I said in the "what's in your bag?" thread: nothing but my playing cue. :-)
 
If you don't break all that hard, so soft in fact that some of your power shots are as hard as the break, i dont think you have anything to worry about.

I know a few monster players that crush em with their 314^2 shafts and swear that they are strong enough to break with. I didn't realize the point about them breaking down slowly and developing cracks.
 
I bought a 314-2 to try out but instead i've made it my dedicated break cue. As far as I know of the cases where the shaft broke it is usually caused by bending the shaft on the table on the follow-thru. The hollow end and the splices do not seem to hold well against lateral forces. I dont bend my cue and so have not had any damage at all.

I still have the original Everest tip in this shaft and I just have to add these tips are good. I've only needed to sand the mushroom off one time after breaking with it for a couple of weeks and since then I've never really had to retouch.
 
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