FS: Adams Prototype Titlist Veneers - Part1 BEFORE

mooseman

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I'm trying to raise some money for a cue purchase from a fellow AZer. As such I have 3 cues I'm trying to sale to raise the funds. For this one I am asking $400 FIRM (includes shipping)

The first cue is one I picked up a FEW months ago on eBay. Here are the original pictures and description from the listing.
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EBAY Listing Description
You are bidding on the very early Adam Custom Cue from 1970's, came from the old Japanese pool player who purchased it in 1970's. What is now named "The Adam Cue Company" was started as "Adam Custom Cue Japan ltd." in 1969 by David Forman and Richard Helmstetter. They were making custom cues for exporting to the U.S. till Mr. Helmstetter left the company in 1986. then the company changed the name as stated above, starting to make production cues up to the present. I found the same inlayed("floral shaped" mother of pearl) one in the vintage Adam cue gallery of PROFICIENT BILLIARDS' website. http://www.proficientbilliards.com/cues/Adam/index.htm so check this out. I was told that it's possibly a proto-type of the early Adam, made of titlist blank, but I'm not sure. This cue just has very similar points to Brunswick Titlist William Hoppe cue. (Purple, green, brown, and natural veneers, and possibly rosewood centers on maple forearm.) Wrap is two tone, white&green thread with 2 parts of black nylon thread. Some mother of pearl inlays on the buttsleeve. The cue bumper seems to be made of a compressed leather. The joint is unique, a long pin on the shaft side. There are some small dents or dings mostly on the buttsleeve you see on the photos. It seems like there is some tiny wood chips in the threaded hole for the weight inside of the butt, so you can hear the faint sound of it when the butt is shaken. I just don't know how to get off this leather bumper cap so leave it as is. (It's so faint, never bothered me while playing.) The butt rolls straight. The shaft has a little roll. This old shaft is a pretty STIFF and I really really love the way it plays!!!!! Weight: approx 18oz. Shaft: approx 12mm.
 
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FS: Adams Prototype Titlist Veneers - Part2 AFTER

My intent was to actually get this cue converted. When I received the cue I got together with Eric (Sugartree) to discuss a conversion. The first thing we did was pull off the OLD wrap. Surprise, surprise!!!! This cue has the longest, most even, and SHARPEST points you will ever see on a cue. It was ALSO extremely thick to make it an excellent candidate for a conversion.

While trying to decide about doing a conversion, I also showed the cue to Wes Hunter. I kind of liked the looks of the old cue but done as a wrapless because of the figure of the wood. The bottom line is he replaced the joint collar and pin, slightly retapered the butt because of the wrap groove, and did a refinish. When I say retapered he barely took enough off so the cue is still suitable to be converted and used a thick enough finish to account for the wrap groove to allow it be wrapless. He also made a new shaft for the cue.

This is the result:

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I can't emphasize this too much. This has the longest and sharpest points/veneers you will see.

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CONS: when Wes did the work this was just to see what the cue might look like as is but done wrapless. As such the finish has raised a little on the bottom of the wrap groove. You can just see this in the below picture.

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This did not bother me too much because my original intent was to get this converted for which it is MORE than large enough to still do.

DISCLAIMER: This does NOT reflect Wes's normal standard as far as finishes go. This was just to get an idea of what the original cue would look like wrapless.

Now the problem is trying to determine a fair market value considering the physical repair work (joint collar/pin/and shaft) that's already been done. So at this time I am simply entertaining REALISTIC offers. If you are interested please PM me.
 
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Very nice cue, I would put the value at around $300-$400 with the right buyer depending on the shaft it has. Good luck with the sale. :)
 
Very nice cue, I would put the value at around $300-$400 with the right buyer depending on the shaft it has. Good luck with the sale. :)

It has one of Wes's normal quality shafts (5/16-14 piloted versus his normal pin) with his taper. He actually did a fantastic job on the repair side considering this was just to get an idea about what the cue would look like wrapless.
 
I dont say much!!
But Adams , Or Richard H, was around in the 60s, and befor he moved, he was at the beging of new cue building!!!
I wish i dint get rid of all the ones I had through 80!
Look at his full splice, and Spain, Did thay Talk?????


My 2 ceeeents.

Thanks Rvan!
 
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