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Thoughts on the Value of This Brunswick Willie Hoppe Cue? - 09-06-2010, 09:21 PM

Hi guys, I am having trouble figuring out what this bad boy is worth. I know it's from the 40's because of the light blue Brunswick logo. It has an 18 oz weight. Here are some pics:

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I can get better pictures if it would help. The top part of the cue is a little worn and the finish is pretty much faded/worn off. The metal piece in the middle of the cue is engraved with Ron Sharek. I guess just someone who got it made. I don't know if that effects the value. Overall the cue is fairly worn but everything looks to be original and in decent shape for being 65 years old. I would appreciate some thoughts on pricing very much. I am selling this for a friend and don't really know where to begin.

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09-06-2010, 09:30 PM

$250-$350 if straight. Less if warped or wobbly when rolled on the table.


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09-06-2010, 09:31 PM

In the shape it's in, I guess between $400-$600.

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The tip seems to be warped maybe a quarter of an inch. Starting from about 3-4 inches down. How much would it cost to restore? Would that be something worth doing before selling it? I really appreciate the information.
  
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09-06-2010, 09:46 PM

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In the shape it's in, I guess between $400-$600.

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I haven't seen one go for that much in a long time, especially the bland sapele wood cues. Usually the $400-$600 cues have an ivory hoppe ring and/or nice wood such as rosewood, purpleheart, oak. Good rosewood & ebony go for closer to $1000. But this one is pretty basic & bland.


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The tip seems to be warped maybe a quarter of an inch. Starting from about 3-4 inches down. How much would it cost to restore? Would that be something worth doing before selling it? I really appreciate the information.
If sold to a buyer for antique cues, you shouldn't do anything. It's best in unrestored condition. If marketing to cuemakers for conversion, put it on ebay & take highest bid as is. Otherwise you can pay a cuemaker to convert it into a modern cue and take the risk of investment but most likely you'd be best just putting it on ebay as a Brunswick Hoppe cue in expected condition for it's age.


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09-06-2010, 10:02 PM

qbilder...You're right! I failed to notice no ivory ring. I've seen more Hoppe cues with the ring than without! LOL I had one that brought $700 about 6-7 years ago. It was rosewood, had bright points, and the ivory ring.

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I haven't seen one go for that much in a long time, especially the bland sapele wood cues. Usually the $400-$600 cues have an ivory hoppe ring and/or nice wood such as rosewood, purpleheart, oak. Good rosewood & ebony go for closer to $1000. But this one is pretty basic & bland.


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Hi guys, I am having trouble figuring out what this bad boy is worth. I know it's from the 40's because of the light blue Brunswick logo. It has an 18 oz weight. Here are some pics:

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/872...1009062111.jpg

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/8...1009062101.jpg

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/7...1009062101.jpg

I can get better pictures if it would help. The top part of the cue is a little worn and the finish is pretty much faded/worn off. The metal piece in the middle of the cue is engraved with Ron Sharek. I guess just someone who got it made. I don't know if that effects the value. Overall the cue is fairly worn but everything looks to be original and in decent shape for being 65 years old. I would appreciate some thoughts on pricing very much. I am selling this for a friend and don't really know where to begin.

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Does the label look like the one below? If it does, that's early 1960's. They stopped using the ivory ring in the late 1950's and changed the script on the Brunswick logo in the early 1960's. The script on "Brunswick" looks to me like the one below.

This cue looks like it's in pretty bad shape and would need a lot of work. I would say it's worth about $150 - $200 as is - and that is if it's relatively straight. I've got a beautiful one that is in near perfect original shape I would sell for $400.

Here is a link to some Brunswick catalogs on my website - if you look at the 1961 catalog there is a fold out for this model:

http://www.palmercollector.com/Bruns...rHomePage.html


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The tip seems to be warped maybe a quarter of an inch. Starting from about 3-4 inches down. How much would it cost to restore? Would that be something worth doing before selling it? I really appreciate the information.
It's not worth the money to fix it. A new shaft would cost up to about $150 and it would not raise the value much, plus it would look terrible unless the entire cue were restored.

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qbilder...You're right! I failed to notice no ivory ring. I've seen more Hoppe cues with the ring than without! LOL I had one that brought $700 about 6-7 years ago. It was rosewood, had bright points, and the ivory ring.

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That was a nice collectible Hoppe, Scott! It was a rarer one too - World War II vintage. They were fighting over that one.

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Yeah, i'd love to find a thick one piece rosewood Titleist. A real rosewood, not just some brown wood people label as rosewood because they don't know any better. I have seen cocobolo, too. They are very rare.


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Thanks for your help with that Chris! I still owe ya dinner or something next time I see you!

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09-08-2010, 10:08 AM

Thanks so much guys for your help. The man's uncle left it with him so it probably has more than $200 of sentimental value. I appreciate the info. And yes the label does look like that so I guess it's from the 60's.

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09-09-2010, 06:21 PM

Alright it is for sale on eBay with a starting price of $98 and no reserve. Check it out and bid this baby up!! Auction ends in 9 days.

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