Chastise Ermanno Scalas?...no more USBA for me.

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3CushionKing

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An email was sent out to members regarding Mr. Scalas and the issues dealing with the World Cup. The email basically covered the OPINION of a few prominent board members that thought he was unreasonable, etc., BUT what bothered me was that they said, "dont respond to his emails...in a sense telling all members not to deal with him, disregard his communication...essentially saying, "don't give him any business". IT'S LIKE WHEN OBAMA SAID, " I don't know all of the facts, but the Massachusetts Police acted stupidly". REMEMBER THAT! I met Mr. Scalas last week and found him quite pleasant. Very Stern and a BRILLIANT perfectionist. Has anyone seen that BEAUTIFUL ROOM with 12 Carom Tables? AND that is my OPINION. I was once (and currently am) a proud member of the USBA...until now. THE USBA CONTINUES TO SUPPORT... Noel Mendoza, a Fraud who should be arrested for Forgery. AND Continues support of THE BIGGEST A-Hole that has EVER walked this planet... Dennis Dieckman. Good luck to you all. I don't need to be part of an organization like this. Respectfully, Barry
 
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Hi Barry,

May I quote Voltaire? " I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."

I'm sorry you have such anger over some of the people who are associated with the USBA directly or indirectly.

In any organization there will be people that you will not like. That's fair.

But how about some of the people in the organization you do like or respect. Why must the ones you don't like have more power over your decision regarding the USBA?

I enjoyed you being a part of the Olhausen Open in 2009. You seem to be a very pleasant person. Why waste your positive energy on people that seem to drag you down?

Whether you want to be a member of the USBA is your business.

But in general, you will not find a nicer group of people as a whole than those of us that love the game of 3C.

Take care my friend.
 
I am a new member of USBA... just received my card... and patch... and so too the email message referenced by the OP. I quite frankly don't know what to make of all this... but it seems like I simply came to play some 3-cushion billiards and was dropped in to a war zone... :shocked2:

The room I go to here in Houston is US Billiards... a great place to play with three heated Gabriels tables. They held a USBA Regional Qualifier there last weekend that was well-run and exciting. I didn't enter because I am really just starting to learn this game... but I do want to compete in the future. That's why I joined in the first place! I hope any high drama will only be found on the tables... we'll see.
 
To our new member, welcome! It is shameful of the USBA, to have burdened you with these issues. As a card carrying member myself, I was saddened to receive Jim's email yesterday.

No Jim, I didn't receive a mass email from Mr Scalas, and he has had my email address for months. That, the now, acting USBA president felt the need to give us his view of a man, via mass email. One that is bordering on slander, by the way, was not needed and will likely create more problems than solve them. I mean are you trying to incite a riot? I've never personally met the man (mr. scalas). I can say that all my communications with him have been nothing but professional, though. And I cannot wait until I have a chance to get down to Las Vegas and see, what is probably the largest carom room in the USA. Just the act of opening the room, was a major boost to our beloved game.

Seems like some folks got their panties in a wad, but are forgetting the main goal here is to advance the knowledge of the game and promote 3 cushion billiards. Regardless of how difficult a person might be, if they are promoting the game and not bringing a bad feeling to the players....then go man go!

Although they are not paid members, it is the duty of those that have accepted the job, as officers of any organization to deal with whatever issues arise in a professional manner. It's the same reason why they are elected. To make good decisions, that are positive to the game, even when they might not be in line with their personal beliefs, for the benefit of the members at large and for the game.

Anyway, like Barry said, this is just my opinion.
 
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Jamie,

I can't disagree with you. You are one of the good guys I was speaking about in the carom community.
 
Sound like its time for a Regional breakup from USBA.

Will it be Henry U or Steve A as the New USBA President???

If you are Going to post this outside the USBA.net and Its Forum, and Post on AZBilliards Forum.

Then Whatever emails you are talking about should be posted [copy], so AZmembers may see what the discussion about.

Otherwise stay at the USBA Forum with this discussion
 
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I believe our "Directors" don't understand the cultural difference. I' ve played against Jae Cho many times at his establishment in Denver. While he is a kind hearted man, if you say the wrong thing or treat his equipment NOT in the way of his liking...you WILL hear about it, I've seen it. It is still a honor to be in his presence. This is the same case...... Mr.Scalas is an Italian Man. Maybe he was insulted. BUT we only have a one sided OPINION, SLANDER OR DEFAMATION of this Mans character...which should have
never been sent out to Members, until further due-diligence had been reached. Mr. Scalas is a PERFECTIONIST. He is an Artist. In his entry way stands 2 "MichaelAngelo'esqe" statues that he created. Everything is PERFECT at his place, not a spec of dust ANYWHERE. His Father was a Champion Billiardsman. I bet the Man has at least a 1/2 a Mill in this place...half of that in Tables ALONE! So sure, you don't think this Man is going to have Stipulations? PLEASE ALLOW ME TO QUOTE FROM JIM'S EMAIL... "I would advise everyone to NOT respond to Mr. Scalas' emails, because once you do, he will have your email address and you will never get any peace"...............ALSO, "I have a question for all of you. If Bob Jewett of all people does not wish to deal with this man, if Bruce Warner doesn't, if Jim Shovak and also Charles Brown do not, what does that tell you? You make the call. I don't know Jim, what DOES that tell me? I can tell you this... MIKE MASSEY, the world's most famous billiardsman and Trick Shot MASTER, Endorses Mr.Scalas's establishment. WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU!
 
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There got to be more to this :

QUOTE FROM JIM'S EMAIL... "I would advise everyone to NOT respond to Mr. Scalas' emails, because once you do, he will have your email address and you will never get any peace"...............ALSO, "I have a question for all of you. If Bob Jewett of all people does not wish to deal with this man, if Bruce Warner doesn't, if Jim Shovak and also Charles Brown do not, what does that tell you?
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Reason:

1.Other Important USBA Personnel - Ermanno Scalas USBA Pins Division Director

2.what USBA Members receive: USBA Directory: pictures, bios and contact information of USBA Members

Again -- Take it back to USBA Forum/ member only section. Otherwise show the email in full both from Shovak and Scalas, here.
 
I can not disagree with either Barry or Bob regarding their last post. By the way, I consider Ermanno a friend. If you ask him, I'm sure he considers me a friend as well.

Anyone promoting 3C is good with me.
 
We non-members... would like to see... Yes

billiardshot said:
There got to be more to this :



Reason:

1.Other Important USBA Personnel - Ermanno Scalas USBA Pins Division Director

2.what USBA Members receive: USBA Directory: pictures, bios and contact information of USBA Members

Again -- Take it back to USBA Forum/ member only section. Otherwise show the email in full both from Shovak and Scalas, here.
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Please display the EMails in question. We non, but possibly soon to be, members are quite interested in the origin(s) of this issue. Without them, it seems, we only have a third of the story.

Thanks

Jay
 
FYI, I am a USBA member but did not receive any email from Mr. Scalas. Perhaps it was a threat he failed to carry out, or perhaps he didn't have access to the full membership's email addresses. I did receive the email from Jim. I'm not going to post Jim's email - it's up to him to do that. The USBA forum sheds no light on this controversy.

Being an unpaid volunteer myself for a couple of pool leagues, I can only say that I'm grateful to Jim and the rest of the USBA board for what they do for us and regret the idealized expectations heaped upon them by some and the internal politics they have to endure. I can't judge the merits of this case, only that I can understand the frustration that led Jim to send his email.

Rich Klein
 
Here is the Email in question in its entirety since others have asked to read it:

Dear USBA Members,

It has come to my intention that Mr. Ermanno Scalas from Las Vegas has sent out a mass email to everyone indicating that the USBA Board of Directors is inept and not willing to disclose our discussions, etc, etc.

What you DON'T know is that Mr. Scalas has been an extremely unreasonable person to deal with regarding the World Cup. He refused to put any agreement into writing and insisted that we simply "trust" him. Mr. Scalas does not realize that is NOT the way things are done in the United States and in the business world. When we insisted, he ranted and raved and accused us of not "trusting" him and insulting him.

Bob Jewett flew out to Las Vegas at his own expense just to help Mr. Scalas with the World Cup. Mr. Bob Jewett is no longer interested in being involved with the World Cup and no longer wishes to speak with Mr. Scalas at all. What does that tell you?

He also has yelled at me on the phone as if he is my boss or something. I told him where to go. Bruce Warner was amazingly patient with Ermanno in trying to reach an agreement, but talking to a brick wall is not so easy. Mr. Scalas sent an email to the Board calling for the resignation of Bruce Warner. Bruce resigned the next day.

I have been told that he also wants me to resign. That will not happen if I can help it. Mr. Scalas has also overstepped his authority by trying to insert Jerry Karsh into the Presidency. Apparently, Mr. Karsh had nothing to do with it, so I certainly do not fault him. But it has become apparent that Mr. Scalas has been trying to "take over" the USBA and mold it into what HE wants it to be. Instead of going through the normal channels, he apparently is trying a hostile takeover. I will make sure that doesn't happen. If the Board wants Mr. Scalas as their boss, then they can have him, but without me. I will not work with such an individual and I will not allow him any position of authority within the USBA if I can help it.

Regarding certain allegations that Mr. Scalas has mentioned, let me explain something to everyone including Mr. Scalas:

Not ONE dollar of membership dues is used for Tournament Prize Funds. Every dollar that is used comes in from donations from individual sponsors such as myself, David Levine, Bob Jewett and many others. Membership dues are used to pay normal expenses and our biggest expense is sending our top players to compete in the Pan American Championship and the World Championship.

I would advise everyone to NOT respond to Mr. Scalas' emails, because once you do, he will have your email address and you will never get any peace.

I have a question for all of you. If Bob Jewett of all people does not wish to deal with this man, if Bruce Warner doesn't, if Jim Shovak and also Charles Brown do not, what does that tell you? You make the call.

Thanks always for your continued support.

Your current acting-President and Secretary/Treasurer,

Jim Shovak

Hi, this is Dave again. I don't really know what's going on enough to voice an opinion, but I thought this was an odd email to send. I hope it gets sorted out.

Dave
 
It has come to my intention that Mr. Ermanno Scalas from Las Vegas has sent out a mass email to everyone indicating that the USBA Board of Directors is inept and not willing to disclose our discussions, etc, etc.



Does anyone have copy of the above mentioned email they could post?
 
rlw said:
It has come to my intention that Mr. Ermanno Scalas from Las Vegas has sent out a mass email to everyone indicating that the USBA Board of Directors is inept and not willing to disclose our discussions, etc, etc.



Does anyone have copy of the above mentioned email they could post?
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please look up to post #13.
 
Thank Dave for posting Shovak email.

I will presently keep my opinion to myself.

Except for this part:

If Bob Jewett of all people does not wish to deal with this man, if Bruce Warner doesn't, if Jim Shovak and also Charles Brown do not, what does that tell you? You make the call. They say the same about RatF@@Ker
 
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Would like to see the email that Mr. Ermanno Scalas sent out, not the one in post 13 by Mr. Shovak.
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You won't. Total fcking disaster, completely unprofessional, I just read it and can't believe that somebody sent that rant out. If somebody did that in any company in this country they'd be fired on the spot. The USBA is an unfortunately sad joke, I don't blame Bruce for bailing, I don't blame Dieckman for bailing either but let's face it, Dieckman's raving lunatic posts didn't exactly entice me to join the USBA. The inmates are running the asylum. Not sure if there's anyone to take their place, but it can't be worse than this. Tear it down and start from scratch, get some new blood in there.
 
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Please post Mr. Ermanno Scalas email to be fair to all party.

How will this turnoil affect the US National been held in LasVegas????
 
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