Just want to share this...
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The raffle case looks like a poorly done copy. The black and light brown one is a really sharp case though.
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Hui shown me the case this afternoon. It was like comparing day and night. The darker case ( imitation ) was poorly done. Some of the tooling were not aligned. Leather are of lower grade.
I do not understand why Tasaddict would want to raffle such case and ruin his good reputation here.
I do not understand why Tasaddict would want to raffle such case and ruin his good reputation here.
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Ok I been seen this jumping from page to page .
Ok the case you won Is not a jb case by far,
also you won it, the good part you really did not put some real money Into a very bad knock off .
I say sell it cheap and tell the truth on the case,
It's not a Jb case and you really don't know who made it,
Good luck sorry .
Look into sellers on az ask other people if your not sure about the seller...
Ok the case you won Is not a jb case by far,
also you won it, the good part you really did not put some real money Into a very bad knock off .
I say sell it cheap and tell the truth on the case,
It's not a Jb case and you really don't know who made it,
Good luck sorry .
Look into sellers on az ask other people if your not sure about the seller...
The case was only described as a new flower tribute case. Was my own fault for joining the raffle anyway. Lesson learnt.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=227109
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=227396
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=226973
The seller got good feedbacks. 55 positive itrader to be exact.
It is not about whether he did put in some real money into it or not(but he did participate in a few of his raffles). There are others who are being cheated by this fraud including those who have not won in the raffles. Imagine how much money he has pocketed in this fraud on AZ. Getting a cheap counterfeit case and raffling it here for more.
Assuming one who would know that it is a fake would never pay that much for the raffle or even joined the raffles.
Most of the previous winners are not aware of the case differences. Hui is putting this up so that others, not only on the raffles, are aware of this counterfeit cases available on the market.
I entered one of the raffles. After I entered I looked very close and noticed the colors were off. They didn't make the JB Cases in those colors. It looked strange, I noticed it was off but I didn't really piece it together. Had I known the quality of the case before hand, I would not have entered the raffle. I do feel cheated.
He only showed the one picture in the raffle. If he would have shown a picture of the interior it would have been readily spotted as a fake. The JB Cases have the plush interior and have never had tubes.
Kind of sucks that someone with a good rep here would sell an imitation case for $400, more than the actual case would have cost.
He only showed the one picture in the raffle. If he would have shown a picture of the interior it would have been readily spotted as a fake. The JB Cases have the plush interior and have never had tubes.
Kind of sucks that someone with a good rep here would sell an imitation case for $400, more than the actual case would have cost.
I noticed the colors were off as well and decided not to get in on the raffle. At first I thought it might have been a factory second, but then chucked that notion to the side thinking that John Barton most certainly doesn't allow seconds to go out. Amazingly one of the numbers I was going to take would have been a winner. I would have been really pissed to find out that the first time I win a raffle would have been winning a counterfeit.
I also feel defrauded as I wouldn't have knowingly put my hard earned cash in raffle for a case of this quality. Thanks for posting this so we could see what we were actually entering for. I wasn't suspicious until the stranger colors started coming out and that's when I stopped entering his raffles. Believe it or not I thought the lack of depth of the tooling on the cases and the slightly off colors were just bad photography on his part. I see now, boy was I wrong.
Lesson learned here too and I won't be entering any more of Tasaddict's raffles. He's got some serious explaining and respect earning to do. I wonder if any of the other stuff he's currently raffling or raffled in the past is also counterfeit.
Lesson learned here too and I won't be entering any more of Tasaddict's raffles. He's got some serious explaining and respect earning to do. I wonder if any of the other stuff he's currently raffling or raffled in the past is also counterfeit.
As winner of one of the raffles as well, Thanks for posing the comparison. I got to say though, the case is not a piece of junk. I know a bit about leather but probally not as much a a lot of folks. Either way, its a shame the guy sold knock offs and people not knowingly bid on them as the real deal.
Agreed
As bad as it is, every single person that entered the raffle has been wronged and lied to. Because of the nature of raffles, 46 people are scammed instead of just the buyer. Granted, it may been seen as better that the rip-off cost was shared instead of one person being out for the entire person.
*edit* Original poster had responded. granted with reasoning. The reasoning of using "tribute" in place of "knockoff" is not appreciated.
Carl
As bad as it is, every single person that entered the raffle has been wronged and lied to. Because of the nature of raffles, 46 people are scammed instead of just the buyer. Granted, it may been seen as better that the rip-off cost was shared instead of one person being out for the entire person.
*edit* Original poster had responded. granted with reasoning. The reasoning of using "tribute" in place of "knockoff" is not appreciated.
Carl
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oh man
My God! i feel being cheated to go on that raffle. I got the Real FLowers and i love it so much. The fake one... Hmmm... SUCKS! well... his explaination is he got the case from trustable taiwanese supplier, an excuss that doesnt make sense. When the seller wanna claim for payment no wonder he asked me for e-mail instead giving his, i believe the usual things to do is seller give their e-mail for us to send the money. When i tracked his location and i do believe he is in Singapore. Well i just wanna share it, i hope i dont offend anyone except the seller. I dont care man about the seller.
Have a Good Day guys!
Ricky
My God! i feel being cheated to go on that raffle. I got the Real FLowers and i love it so much. The fake one... Hmmm... SUCKS! well... his explaination is he got the case from trustable taiwanese supplier, an excuss that doesnt make sense. When the seller wanna claim for payment no wonder he asked me for e-mail instead giving his, i believe the usual things to do is seller give their e-mail for us to send the money. When i tracked his location and i do believe he is in Singapore. Well i just wanna share it, i hope i dont offend anyone except the seller. I dont care man about the seller.
Have a Good Day guys!
Ricky
I almost made the same mistake. In all honesty the colors being off was an after thought. The main reason was that it wasn't a 3x6. I'm sad to say that it was the raffle that you won that I chose not to get into because of those two things. I saw it at work right when it got posted and my numbers would have been 8, 9, 10, 11, 18, 19, 20 and 21. I would have been really mad dropping $60 on that, but I would have also taken your number which was the winner.
I am still undecided as to what to do to handle this. While it could have been a simple mistake, there appears to have been efforts made to cover up details now by the original poster.
While I decide what to do, it is up to those who were involved in the raffles to make their thoughts known on the posters itrader page.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/itrader.php?u=9976
Mike
While I decide what to do, it is up to those who were involved in the raffles to make their thoughts known on the posters itrader page.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/itrader.php?u=9976
Mike
Can you imagine how www.JBCASES.COM feels? This sucks big time, for everyone, especially John Barton who takes great pride in his design and quality of his cue cases.