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I am really proud of my wife. Sunny was in a close match. She was behind 6to 5. The race is to 7.

She is playing pretty good and has good chance to run out to go hill-hill.

While getting ready to pull the trigger, her left arm just 'touched' a ball. Remember, ultimate 10-ball rules are all ball fouls.

Sunny stood up, calmed herself down ( she has a brutal desire to win) and tapped the cue ball with her cuestick.

Opponent and ref did not understand what happened - then realized she had called afoul on herself.

Cost her the game and match but her integrity is worth more than one win.

I am really proud of her.

That is how an honorable person plays an honorable game.

Mark griffin
 
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

Terrific!!

I'm proud of her, as well.

Nice going, Sunny. :)

Best,
Brian kc
 
Ain't love grand! Nothing better than being proud of your other half! :smiling-heart:

Good for Sunny! :)

BTW, I'm not sure if this has been addressed on the forum yet, but does anybody find it odd that this tournament is happening on Easter weekend, to include Easter Day?

I guess in the pool world, holidays such as this don't mean as much as they might in other fields, but I do find it kind of unusual to schedule a tournament on a high holy day. Then again, I'm working today myself. LOL
 
Two thumbs up for Sunny.

I've always thought that even with a ref present you still call the foul on yourself. The more people that exhibit such honorable behavior, the better the game will be for everyone.

Most sports have their "scoundrels" and poor sports; but NO sport will be great unless those people are in the small minority. They add some flavor to the game when they are the exception, they cheapen the game and destroy any credibility it has if they are the majority. We all need to lead by example.
 
We all knew Sunny was a winner. She just verified it again.


Congrats Mark.. you made the right decision. :grin:
 
More proof that the person you see in the mirror is the one you have to answer to.

Bravo, Sunny.
 
Honor when one else sees

Isn't this really what our game is about? The game of champions and Royalty!! Once again we are all reminded that Others also live by the code WE all believe in. Here, Here, Sunny is a Champion in the Game...Her Honor...And indeed a Valued opponent. Roy
 
BTW, I'm not sure if this has been addressed on the forum yet, but does anybody find it odd that this tournament is happening on Easter weekend, to include Easter Day?

At first I thought it odd, too, then after thinking more about it, we are a nation of sports fans and there will definitely be sports on tv today. So why not have a pool tournament?

There are also those traditional pro football games played on Christmas.

Call it a cost of being in the sports entertainment field.

Best,
Brian kc
 
Must give props to someone who does this. This is a display of sporstmanship the way it should be! Pool needs more folks like Sunny.
 
Good for her

I am really proud of my wife. Sunny was in a close match. She was behind 6to 5. The race is to 7.

She is playing pretty good and has good chance to run out to go hill-hill.

While getting ready to pull the trigger, her left arm just 'touched' a ball. Remember, ultimate 10-ball rules are all ball fouls.

Sunny stood up, calmed herself down ( she has a brutal desire to win) and tapped the cue ball with her cuestick.

Opponent and ref did not understand what happened - then realized she had called afoul on herself.

Cost her the game and match but her integrity is worth more than one win.

I am really proud of her.

That is how an honorable person plays an honorable game.

Mark griffin

What might be interesting for you or other members(I think u may have already commented) is the big controversy on this subject over at onepocket.org on a thread started by John Brumback about calling fouls on yourself. Some heated words from both sides have taken place. Some big names you might be surprised by their opinion.
For me call all fouls on yourself. Your opponent may have blinked.
 
What might be interesting for you or other members(I think u may have already commented) is the big controversy on this subject over at onepocket.org on a thread started by John Brumback about calling fouls on yourself. Some heated words from both sides have taken place. Some big names you might be surprised by their opinion.
For me call all fouls on yourself. Your opponent may have blinked.

Here's the link to the thread you mention.

And yes, integrity matters.
 
We all knew Sunny was a winner. She just verified it again.


Congrats Mark.. you made the right decision. :grin:
Odd that you see this as honorable, which it is. Over at Onepocket.org when Brumback asked should he call a foul on himself if nobody called it or saw it, your answer was quite different. Hell, most of the people over there would be calling her a sucker. Brumback lost me as a fan after I read that thread and you're looking a little hypocritical. Way to go Sunny, you showed class and did the right thing. :)
 
And yes, integrity matters.

JL,
I am familiar with that thread.

The players there who think integrity is not the issue are a sad, sad reflection on the state of the game. They are deluding themselves; using any excuse to get away with behavior that totally lacks integrity. There are way too many pool players who use those excuses to help WIN and often nowadays it doesn't matter because the sport is in such sad shape; but they are wrong that it doesn't matter.

The sport will never be anything grand until more pros suck it up and learn to behave and compete like gentlemen and sportsmen - really just behave like MEN, not little boys. The average players need to have better role models. More role models, fewer scoundrels = success (and yes the sport can handle and benefit from a few rounders, but all rounders = cesspool and no popular interest).
 
JL,
I am familiar with that thread.

The players there who think integrity is not the issue are a sad, sad reflection on the state of the game. They are deluding themselves; using any excuse to get away with behavior that totally lacks integrity. There are way too many pool players who use those excuses to help WIN and often nowadays it doesn't matter because the sport is in such sad shape; but they are wrong that it doesn't matter.

The sport will never be anything grand until more pros suck it up and learn to behave and compete like gentlemen and sportsmen - really just behave like MEN, not little boys. The average players need to have better role models. More role models, fewer scoundrels = success (and yes the sport can handle and benefit from a few rounders, but all rounders = cesspool and no popular interest).

Thanks for saying this, I agree completely and utterly. Well said.

Also, here is my favorite post from the thread referenced above (I don't think that I could have said it better myself):



This is an interesting discussion about ethics.

Let me pose this question. When you play are you playing your opponent or are you playing against yourself?

I personally don't care who my opponent is. I play against myself to be the best I can be on that particular day in that particular environment in that particular moment. If I cheat by fouling and not standing up I am only cheating myself.

Winning is not all that matters. It is how you win that is important. Don't get me wrong. I do my very best to match up the best I can because I believe that most if not all games are won before the game starts. Once the game starts I would never steal a ball or wrongfully accuse another player of a foul or shark another player.

That is just me. There is no victory knowing that I bent the rules to win. What's the point. It's not winning.

For me at least the money has never meant anything. It is just a measure of winning or losing. It is soon spent. The memory of winning is what is most important. It is what makes a good player. If you win by subterfuge what is the point?

When you play pool you play to win. That's the point. Nothing else matters. You are trying to prove that you are the best. Why would you cheat yourself of victory just because your opponent isn't paying attention. What a shame.

Bill Stroud
 
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