Action 1/11/06

Cornerman

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A couple of things to get this into some perspective. There are two buildings of tables this year: the Exectuvie West (as always) and the Executive Inn. The Inn is hosting the bar table events plus the 3-Cushion tourney.

What has happened the past couple of nights is that the mini bar table tourneys has "taken" several of the action players to the Inn. Bobby Pickle is in the house, playing at the Inn. That should end all of the other BP discussions for now.

Also, the Windy City tournament also had several players not even at the Derby... until yesterday :)

I have small video/still/voice recorder, so I attempted to video and record some action and banter. It might be understandable, but if not, written dialogue might be in the future.

Action:

Here is some action, light and heavy, with few results. Unfortunately, there are some games that are going to be marathon matches, and the grapevine needs to provide the results at some point.

Joyner vs. Durbin

These two have been in one hole action since day 1. First it Durbin was getting 9-7, but yesterday, he was getting 10-7! And someone will have to tell me, but I think the game wasn't too crazy. Maybe 5-ahead? I think Cliff is probably the best U.S. one pocket player, but I didn't like him in this game. The mill suggests that 40 large bags of sand were on the proverbial lamp (20 each player, I assume). Rumor has it that after a couple of days, Cliff took it down. And then someone asked Cliff if he had the money that he borrowed (about 3 bills) and Cliff ... didn't have it.

The Young Gun Ring Game

Fifty, then a hundred beans per man, per game, this 9-ball game had some go in and out. Sparky Ferrel, Lil Jon Macias, Jonas (someone help me with man’s name), Little Andy Friedenhof, and Keith Bennet. These are the next level of players that in a few short years will be the lions. Just a few years ago, names like Gabe Owen and Shane Van Boening would be inserted here, but look at them now! These guys are fearless. Each of them have absolultely thunderous breaks. And, they get out from everywhere. When they get that “professional control” that seems to differentiate great players from god-like players, LOOK OUT!

Sarah “I’m just a girl” Rousey vs. Mr. Baskin Robbins

Okay, I should know his name, but he owns a couple of ice cream shops he like to keep the stakes low, but will go a long time. And long they went. They started their straight up race to nine 9-ball sets at 4:30 AM, and called it quits at 5:00 PM. 12 ½ hours. Looked like Sarah had the best of this game, but she started to slow down, and in the final set with Sarah leading 7-2 he mounted a comeback filled with lucky breaks and kisses combined with uncharacteristic small mistakes by Sarah. He ended up winning the final set, with Sarah on top by I believe one set. Tough 12 hours. Here’s the winning shot:

START( %A[2\7%Bj3Y9%CF0H9%Dh8J4%Ec2M8%Fk7N6%GL9L1%Hh1W9%IE0E1%PS8N5 %Qs3[1%RB2[1%SD4L8%Uh7Y6%VT9O0%WD8[1%Xr1Z1%Yr7Z0%Zk2Y9 )END
The Ice Cream Man fired at the 2-ball to pocket A. He overcut it, and rocketed into pocket B. I have no idea what the path was, but the cueball ended up gently at point C. And that shut the door on the set. OUCH.


Shane Has Arrive

With the arrival of Shane Van Boening, the action room had its first full room buzz. Again, I video’d and voice recorded some, so as to hopefully share the experience at some point. I’m not sure when, but it’s be 5Mb at a time or something.

The entire day, the talk was that Shane was to play John Schmidt 10-ahead 9-ball, EVEN. I guess Shane really has turned that corner, because half the room liked Shane. Throughout the rumblings, Schmidt was nowhere to be found. In comes of all people, Johnny Archer. Archer isn’t unknown to the road world, but his elite status normally doesn’t make him a player in the pit. But he woofed the action, offering Shane the 7-ball. There was a slight stun as it seemed so out of character for the great Johnny Archer to partake in such banter. Shane didn’t bite, but he said he’d take the 7 and the 8. He proceeded to tell Corey Deuel that he’d take the 8 from him. No bites.

Kirkwood offered a bar table game to Shane. “The same one you beat me at in Vegas,” said Jason. But Shane decline saying “he’s not playing anymore bar tables.” But the word is that Shane just came from snapping off the Windy City… on bar tables.

At this point, we had about a hundred people crowding around the tables, with no action… but a game was made. Keith Bennett said he’d take the 8, 12-ahead for … no idea how many dimes. But, the dimes came out. The going odds on this game started at 5-4 with almost no takers. At 2-1, the takers came. Nobody seemed to like this game for Bennett, a young gun from the Carolinas.

Once everyone was seated, and the action started, I saw how far Shane has come. He treated this tight pocketed Diamond pros like bar tables. He pounded the balls in with an unwavering and extremely coordinated stroke. His break was the best I had seen in the room for days. Bennett is raw, compared to Shane. Good but not great position. Good but not great speed. Average patterns, but fantastic shotmaking. And a monster break.

Shane roared out to 4, and I think most people figured the match to last under 2 hours. But, Bennett showed all heart and refused to go down. “He can’t win all the game,” he shouted, as he won his first game. And suddenly, it was tied. The patterns started getting slightly loose for Shane, and the pockets didn’t like a couple of his shots.

Unfortunately an d fortunately, this match wasn’t done when I had had enough at 4:30 AM. It’s now nearly 10:00 AM. I’m heading down to see if it’s still on or if they went to bed, or if they’ve started back up.

Anyway, that’s the latest. I wish you all were here.

Fred
 
Awesome update. Let me be the first to thank you for taking the time to keep us in the loop on what is happening in the backrooms at the DCC.
 
Cornerman said:
A couple of things to get this into some perspective. There are two buildings of tables this year: the Exectuvie West (as always) and the Executive Inn. The Inn is hosting the bar table events plus the 3-Cushion tourney.

What has happened the past couple of nights is that the mini bar table tourneys has "taken" several of the action players to the Inn. Bobby Pickle is in the house, playing at the Inn. That should end all of the other BP discussions for now.

Also, the Windy City tournament also had several players not even at the Derby... until yesterday :)

I have small video/still/voice recorder, so I attempted to video and record some action and banter. It might be understandable, but if not, written dialogue might be in the future.

Action:

Here is some action, light and heavy, with few results. Unfortunately, there are some games that are going to be marathon matches, and the grapevine needs to provide the results at some point.

Joyner vs. Durbin

These two have been in one hole action since day 1. First it Durbin was getting 9-7, but yesterday, he was getting 10-7! And someone will have to tell me, but I think the game wasn't too crazy. Maybe 5-ahead? I think Cliff is probably the best U.S. one pocket player, but I didn't like him in this game. The mill suggests that 40 large bags of sand were on the proverbial lamp (20 each player, I assume). Rumor has it that after a couple of days, Cliff took it down. And then someone asked Cliff if he had the money that he borrowed (about 3 bills) and Cliff ... didn't have it.

The Young Gun Ring Game

Fifty, then a hundred beans per man, per game, this 9-ball game had some go in and out. Sparky Ferrel, Lil Jon Macias, Jonas (someone help me with man’s name), Little Andy Friedenhof, and Keith Bennet. These are the next level of players that in a few short years will be the lions. Just a few years ago, names like Gabe Owen and Shane Van Boening would be inserted here, but look at them now! These guys are fearless. Each of them have absolultely thunderous breaks. And, they get out from everywhere. When they get that “professional control” that seems to differentiate great players from god-like players, LOOK OUT!

Sarah “I’m just a girl” Rousey vs. Mr. Baskin Robbins

Okay, I should know his name, but he owns a couple of ice cream shops he like to keep the stakes low, but will go a long time. And long they went. They started their straight up race to nine 9-ball sets at 4:30 AM, and called it quits at 5:00 PM. 12 ½ hours. Looked like Sarah had the best of this game, but she started to slow down, and in the final set with Sarah leading 7-2 he mounted a comeback filled with lucky breaks and kisses combined with uncharacteristic small mistakes by Sarah. He ended up winning the final set, with Sarah on top by I believe one set. Tough 12 hours. Here’s the winning shot:

START( %A[2\7%Bj3Y9%CF0H9%Dh8J4%Ec2M8%Fk7N6%GL9L1%Hh1W9%IE0E1%PS8N5 %Qs3[1%RB2[1%SD4L8%Uh7Y6%VT9O0%WD8[1%Xr1Z1%Yr7Z0%Zk2Y9 )END
The Ice Cream Man fired at the 2-ball to pocket A. He overcut it, and rocketed into pocket B. I have no idea what the path was, but the cueball ended up gently at point C. And that shut the door on the set. OUCH.


Shane Has Arrive

With the arrival of Shane Van Boening, the action room had its first full room buzz. Again, I video’d and voice recorded some, so as to hopefully share the experience at some point. I’m not sure when, but it’s be 5Mb at a time or something.

The entire day, the talk was that Shane was to play John Schmidt 10-ahead 9-ball, EVEN. I guess Shane really has turned that corner, because half the room liked Shane. Throughout the rumblings, Schmidt was nowhere to be found. In comes of all people, Johnny Archer. Archer isn’t unknown to the road world, but his elite status normally doesn’t make him a player in the pit. But he woofed the action, offering Shane the 7-ball. There was a slight stun as it seemed so out of character for the great Johnny Archer to partake in such banter. Shane didn’t bite, but he said he’d take the 7 and the 8. He proceeded to tell Corey Deuel that he’d take the 8 from him. No bites.

Kirkwood offered a bar table game to Shane. “The same one you beat me at in Vegas,” said Jason. But Shane decline saying “he’s not playing anymore bar tables.” But the word is that Shane just came from snapping off the Windy City… on bar tables.

At this point, we had about a hundred people crowding around the tables, with no action… but a game was made. Keith Bennett said he’d take the 8, 12-ahead for … no idea how many dimes. But, the dimes came out. The going odds on this game started at 5-4 with almost no takers. At 2-1, the takers came. Nobody seemed to like this game for Bennett, a young gun from the Carolinas.

Once everyone was seated, and the action started, I saw how far Shane has come. He treated this tight pocketed Diamond pros like bar tables. He pounded the balls in with an unwavering and extremely coordinated stroke. His break was the best I had seen in the room for days. Bennett is raw, compared to Shane. Good but not great position. Good but not great speed. Average patterns, but fantastic shotmaking. And a monster break.

Shane roared out to 4, and I think most people figured the match to last under 2 hours. But, Bennett showed all heart and refused to go down. “He can’t win all the game,” he shouted, as he won his first game. And suddenly, it was tied. The patterns started getting slightly loose for Shane, and the pockets didn’t like a couple of his shots.

Unfortunately an d fortunately, this match wasn’t done when I had had enough at 4:30 AM. It’s now nearly 10:00 AM. I’m heading down to see if it’s still on or if they went to bed, or if they’ve started back up.

Anyway, that’s the latest. I wish you all were here.

Fred
Thanks Fred. This is the best post I have seen in quite some time. It really got my heart pumping. Wish I was there.
 
GREAT THREAD!!!!! WE RAILBIRDS LOVE TO SWEAT IT EVEN WHEN WE ARE NOT THERE. BUT I WILL BE THERE TONIGHT THRU SUNDAY.:p ONLY IF I HAD A LAPTOP TO GIVE YOU FOLKS THE PLAY BY PLAY. SORRY! THANKS AGAIN CORNERMAN FOR THE RELAY. GREAT WORK!!!!:D :D
 
Cornerman said:
Kirkwood offered a bar table game to Shane. “The same one you beat me at in Vegas,” said Jason. But Shane decline saying “he’s not playing anymore bar tables.”

Jason has tried since Vegas to play him again, and has been declined each time. Jason still likes the game.
 
Update

Keith Bennett stormed back and took down the 12-ahead match beating Shane at about 7:00 AM this morning after 5+ hours, stunning most of the railbirds. Those that took 2-1 scored quite well.

Scooter robbed Scott Frost this morning with a gaff. They played even one-pocket, but Scooter on his turn could move the cueball up to one hand span each time he shot. At 300 jellybeans per game, Scott quit after easily losing two. I recorded every word of matching up. I hope I can share it tomorrow.

Fred
 
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Cornerman said:
Keith Bennett stormed back and took down the 12-ahead match beating Shane at about 7:00 AM this morning after 5+ hours, stunning most of the railbirds. Those that took 2-1 scored quite well.

Scooter robbed Scott Frost this morning with a gaff. They played even one-pocket, but Scooter on his turn could move the cueball up to one hand span each time he shot. At 300 jellybeans per game, Scott quit after easily losing two. I recorded every word of matching up. I hope I can share it tomorrow.

Fred

Like Scott is right on top of his game, considering that he
also lost his first match in the 1 hole tournament.

I am pulling for Gabe in the tournament!!
 
By Scooter do you mean Scooter Goodman, the little kid with the big mouth? I saw him take money off of Gabe Owen a couple of years ago getting some ridiculous spot at 1p, he knows how to make a game.
 
That's a GREAT report, Cornerman. Keep 'em coming. The only action here in D.C. is the barkfest between the Democrats and Republicans over Sammy Boy's nomination to the Supreme Court! :eek:
Great news about Bobby Pickle! :p

Keith Bennett is a scrapper and has the endurance to go that extra mile, which comes in handy with long sets. ;)

Looking forward to reading more, Cornerman, when time allows! Thanks again.:)

Picture of Keith Bennett, Bobby Pickle, and Keith McCready taken at the 2004 U.S. Open!

JAM
 

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henho said:
By Scooter do you mean Scooter Goodman, the little kid with the big mouth?...
I thought I noticed one of the DCC pics posted by Diana Hoppe had the artist formrly know as 'Sugar Shane', named 'Scooter'.
your description is spot on for him (too?), though he is 6'+.
 
Black-Balled said:
I thought I noticed one of the DCC pics posted by Diana Hoppe had the artist formrly know as 'Sugar Shane', named 'Scooter'.
your description is spot on for him (too?), though he is 6'+.

Scooter is the young kid with the big mouth. Although he's a lot of fun to hear. He looks like he could be Scott Frost's illegitimate child ;) if that helps. He's not 6'.

Maybe it's Shane McMinn or Shane Hennen.

Fred
 
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Smorgass Bored said:
Good report.I like the idea of 'jellybeans' up to a certain point and then 'bags of sand' representing Thousand$.... imo
Btw, do you know how the Grady vs. incardona match turned out ?


Billy beat Grady two sets of Race To Four fairly easily for 4K. They played even.
 
jay helfert said:
Billy beat Grady two sets of Race To Four fairly easily for 4K. They played even.

Personally, I have never seen Billy Incardone play before. In the past 4 years since I've been traveling the tournament trail, limited as it is, he's usually sitting behind the mic commentating on matches.

I have heard many wonderful stories about Billy when he was hitting 'em and in his prime. He's quite a colorful player. The thing I like about Billy the most when he's in the booth is his knowledge of all games as well as the players individually.

One afternoon at the U.S. Open this past September, I was sweating a match on the TV table, sitting in the bleachers. There was a vacant seat next to me and along comes Billy who sets down for a spell. I had the best of both worlds, seeing the players up front and close as well as listening to Billy's commentary, which was right on cue!

Funny how no one ever sees Billy playing, yet when he gets himself in the pit, he's able to conquer his opponents. I heard he beat one of Mississippi's finest -- EVEN -- at the U.S. Open this past September for a large chunk of change, much to everybody's surprise! :D

JAM
 
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I heard Ike Runnels was giving Billy a ball for 5 Large a set.

Hey Jay is it true that on the last set with Billy and Grady that Billy was firing into Grady's hole running four balls to win it. And they both didnt know the difference.
 
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