A shot I found interesting

alstl

alstl

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I'll post the video later, and maybe I'm the only person who might have learned something from how he played the shot, but how would you get shape on the 2 with ball in hand?

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I would play the 1 in the side at the top of the screen with follow and try to bounce off the 2nd diamond so I am not hooked by the 10 and have an angle for position on the 3...which is actually pretty tough and the key shot in this rack. I think that when you pocket the 2 you need to go around the 7 and try to thread the needle between the 5 and 1 and bounce off the rail for an angle on the 3. If you hit the 5 full it's not the end of the world.
 
I would line up for nearly straight in on the far side, then roll up far enough to see the two.

Or, you could shoot it in the side with enough follow to bounce off the long rail, landing south of the ten, leaving a cut on the two.
 
Me too...one in the side. Now waiting for the video to find out I was wrong...;)
 
Tuff one really

I would shoot the one ball in the far side pocket, following the cue over to the side rail, hard enough to bounce off a touch, and keeping it below the side pocket.
 
Getting a shot on the 2 is a piece of cake...Getting from the 2 to the 3 is the hard part. If you just roll up enough to see the 2, you would probably have to try to stun the cue 3 rails and bounce off between the 7 and 6 the float down between the 1 and the 8 for postition on the 3....Too tough IMO.
 
I'll go ahead and post the video. He plays it in the side and hits half a diamond short of the pocket with the cue ball. If he simply rolls forward without hitting a rail, speed is very tricky because of the narrow window. By playing it off the rail he has more leeway with his speed because of the angle he gets coming off the rail.

I learned something from how he played the shot.

24 minutes into this video.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/17055382
 
I would love to be below the 2, shooting the 1 in the side or UR corner and just making sure I get under the 10. I think that would be relatively easy to do with BIH and a smooth follow stroke. Then I can play center ball and tweak with english as necessary to go up table easily between the 6 and 7 or even the 7 and 9 to get shape on the 3. But would settle for the other shots posted as well, rolling forward toward the side or playing 2 rails toward the ball. Frankly in a real game I might be so focused on getting to the 2 that I might forget about the 3 and have to pull out the old stroke...
Scott
 
I like Neil's way, too. Only problem I see is if you don't end up dead straight so you can draw back to the 3, you have a problem. That path does keep you pretty straight, though.
 
Shoot the one in the side and roll to the center of the table. Speed control is easy.

Best,
Mike
 
I might go w/ Neil's shot if I was playing well, but I think the below offers a little mor magrin for error. I believe it is basically the most sucky-sucky one ca put on CB:

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come up short and you can bank w/ shape. Go too long and you mignht not like shape to the 3...
 
I would have shot in the side but I would have put the cue ball at a slight angle so that the cue ball got closer to the two ball. Speed control is easy to land in that window imo.
 
I probably would have played something that provided a more natural angle to the 3. Perhaps one of these two:

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Neil said:
Here's one way that brings you down the line instead of across it.

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That's some of the best advice have seen on this forum. So many times I tried to fight the shot and land on the line without crossing it or falling short instead of just going with the natural roll. Once I learned that things started to fall in place for me. Greenie to you Neil, well put!
 
I'd play the same 2-rail position mentioned above but would play a more "middle-of-the-table" position on the shots as shown below. This keeps the shots easy to reach & maintains angles to allow me to advance from one ball to the next.

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Cdryden said:
That's some of the best advice have seen on this forum. So many times I tried to fight the shot and land on the line without crossing it or falling short instead of just going with the natural roll. Once I learned that things started to fall in place for me. Greenie to you Neil, well put!
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Yes that concept changed me game when I finally grasped it however in this particular scenario I think a tight pocket will cause a miss on the one at the speed you have to hit it to come around two rails to get close to the two more often than missing that big of a window while shooting into the huge side pocket.
 
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mosconiac said:
I'd play the same 2-rail position mentioned above but would play a more "middle-of-the-table" position on the shots as shown below. This keeps the shots easy to reach & maintains angles to allow me to advance from one ball to the next.

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It's entirely possible that you and everybody else in this thread is a better player than I so I'm not trying to sound like a know it all, but I like Sigel's path better. The reason is because it looks like you will have a hard time avoiding running into a ball while pocketing the 3 ball and you run the risk of tying up balls. Sigel never disturbs a ball during his run.
 
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