TAR 21 - SVB or Alex? ***Poll***
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I'm "slightly" leaning toward SVB as well. Both are outstanding shot makers -- there's no doubt; however, I feel Shane's break will be the difference in this.
First of all I want to say to Justin and TAR, what amazing production quality on that video. You all have stepped up big in the last year. You went from good to superior in such a short amount of time. The emotion you created with that video made me feel like I was getting ready to watch a heavy weight bout between two of the greatest boxers of all time. Superb.
I also wanted to say how thrilled I am to see that you have announced Billy Incardona and Jay Helfert for the commentators in this match. This really puts TAR 21 on the must see list for anyone who was on the fence. Not only are the players two of the best gamblers of our time, but the commentary will be second to none as well.
As for who will win this match... If I was a gambler I would be taking some weight on Alex on this one. I still can't believe people are getting Alex 90-100 after the last performance. Although, with SVB coming off his recent win at the Mizerak tournament he may be able handle this spot.
Regardless of who wins, I am excited for this epic re-match. If you have never seen a TAR production before, this is one to pay the meager dollars to see. You won't be disappointed.
Ben
I also wanted to say how thrilled I am to see that you have announced Billy Incardona and Jay Helfert for the commentators in this match. This really puts TAR 21 on the must see list for anyone who was on the fence. Not only are the players two of the best gamblers of our time, but the commentary will be second to none as well.
As for who will win this match... If I was a gambler I would be taking some weight on Alex on this one. I still can't believe people are getting Alex 90-100 after the last performance. Although, with SVB coming off his recent win at the Mizerak tournament he may be able handle this spot.
Regardless of who wins, I am excited for this epic re-match. If you have never seen a TAR production before, this is one to pay the meager dollars to see. You won't be disappointed.
Ben
Very nice and well deserving post. No super adjectives laced with trite expressions here -- straight from a meaningful heart! Well done sir!
Green shipped!
On July 20, 2011 some of the finest players traveled to Nicaragua to complete in the Pool Ocho Open. In the finals, Alex Pagulayan faced Shane Van Boening who just celebrated his 28th birthday the week before. Shane decided he was going to have his cake and eat it too! He took care of Alex with an 11-6 score and took home 20K for a birthday present.
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Looks like based on the poll results, I should be able to get a bet on Alex getting 5/2 on my money 
When it was announced I thought Shane. He has a lot to prove in this rematch, but...now after much thought, I'll say Alex.It's hard to go against Shane, he's playing Freaking Great, but this is not a quick race to 11.
Race to 100 Alex has the staying power, and I'm not convinced Shane does, and I love this kid.JMO
Honestly whoever wins, I think it will be within 10.
Race to 100 Alex has the staying power, and I'm not convinced Shane does, and I love this kid.JMO
Honestly whoever wins, I think it will be within 10.
My pick is Alex. The match should be very close. I think that the very tight pockets makes it quite a bit harder to make a ball on the break and that it will reduce the importance of Shane's breaking advantage. I suspect that the tight pockets will also mean fewer runouts and more safety play, and the more tactical the match becomes, the more it will favor Pagulayan.
I'm putting my mouth where my money is, since it's too late anyway. Too close to call so I took the odds. - Alex.
'Twas the tight table that tilted the tables.
(say that 30 times real fast)
Although I have found it supremely unprofitable to bet against the South Dakota Kid.
'Twas the tight table that tilted the tables.
(say that 30 times real fast)
Although I have found it supremely unprofitable to bet against the South Dakota Kid.
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Voted on the fence but leaning on an SVB win. I think with his latest win, SVB's got some momentum going into his match with Alex.
You guys make a lot of sense. I thought about that before voting which is why I stated "I'm 'slightly' leaning toward SVB" rather then saying he was going to outright win.
Alex is a smart cookie and knows what he's up against which is more then likely why he stipulated TIGHT pockets as pointed out by Justin in the his thread. He (Justin) made a point to say "These are that (TIGHT) but will take a ball down the rail. Shane's 10 ball break, when it is at its most powerful, relies on the second ball in the rack going in the side and playing position on the one in the corner. I don't see these pockets having any effect at all on that." In my mind this lessons the stipulation "just a bit" and doesn't take Shane's break out of the picture enough. Shane will still be making balls on the break, not 3 and 4 like at the Seminole Miz Championship last weekend mind you, but making some nonetheless and more often then Alex. That's my feeling anyway for what it's worth.
I don't think it will be a runaway by any means as these pockets do even things up just enough to keep it tight (pun intended).
Eric (Fatboy): Thanks for lending those rails so this could go down. Question: When Shane played/practiced at your house in the past were these rails in place, and if so how was Shane liking 'em?
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Just one more thing to add.
This match is really important. It is being played on a neutral table on neutral grounds. As far as I'm concerned, it will decide who is the best 10 ball player.
Anywhere, Anytime up to now, in the World.
Whoever wins this, in my opinion, is the best 10 ball player and all else are just contenders.
Not Yang, or Orcullo, or Lee Van or Bustamante or Wu - they are all contenders because it is only Alex and Shane who stepped up on TAR.
This match is really important. It is being played on a neutral table on neutral grounds. As far as I'm concerned, it will decide who is the best 10 ball player.
Anywhere, Anytime up to now, in the World.
Whoever wins this, in my opinion, is the best 10 ball player and all else are just contenders.
Not Yang, or Orcullo, or Lee Van or Bustamante or Wu - they are all contenders because it is only Alex and Shane who stepped up on TAR.
I have to like Shane who is having a career year. But Alex ain't doing to shabby this year also, with multiple top 3-5 finishes, including some wins. Crazy things seem to happen when Shane and Alex get together, so I will be sitting this one out, sweating it alongside my bud Billy Cardone. :smile:
That sounds suspiciously like a 'no comment'.
You can't do that, Jay....
..you got a job to do this match....:smile:
Don't worry, I've got a few surprises up my sleeve for this match.
Billy Cardone revealed!
Some things go beyond suspicion --- generally when someone pleads "no comment" it means "yes your honor but I ain't sayin'" ...
I'm thinking his first impression ("I have to like Shane who is having a career year.") is the real deal and what follows are second thought/politically correct sound bytes. I could be wrong.
Jay, there is an option you could have chose = "On the fence -- it's a coin toss" but didn't ---- come out with it all knowing-one. Like pt109 said "you got a job to do this match.....:smile:
Perhaps a bit of balut will move you to vote, after all, it is popularly believed to be an aphrodisiac so it might give you the bollocks.
(If the truth reallllllly be known, I almost voted "coin toss" for the aforementioned reasons smarter people then I (sjm, TATE and Jay) stated, but I went for the gut and heart which has got me in hot water more then once!)