Break Stats -- TAR22, Shane vs. Earl

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Break Stats -- TAR22, Shane vs. Earl 9-Ball

I'm keeping track of the break results for the Shane/Earl match that started Friday, Dec. 2.

The conditions for this match are a bit different from anything for which I've previously posted break stats. The conditions include the following: Diamond Smart Table with 4 1/8" corner pockers, Simonis 860 cloth that is not new, Delta-13 Elite rack, winner breaks, breaker racks for himself, 9-ball is racked on the foot spot, placement of balls in the rack is up to the racker, break from the box, 9-ball spots up if made in any fashion other than as the last ball on the table, no jump cues, call all shots, incoming player has option to pass the shot back after any miss or if a ball is pocketed on a called safety, cue-ball fouls only.

DAY 1 -- Friday, Dec. 2
Shane broke 20 times, with the following results:
  • Made at least one ball (and did not foul) and won the game -- 5 (25%)
  • Made at least one ball (and did not foul) and lost the game -- 6 (30%)
  • Broke dry or fouled but won the game -- 4 (20%)
  • Broke dry or fouled and lost the game -- 5 (25%)

Earl broke 25 times, with the following results:
  • Made at least one ball (and did not foul) and won the game -- 8 (32%)
  • Made at least one ball (and did not foul) and lost the game -- 6 (24%)
  • Broke dry or fouled but won the game -- 6 (24%)
  • Broke dry or fouled and lost the game -- 5 (20%)

For the two players combined, a ball was made on the break (without fouling) 25 of the 45 games (56%), the breaker won 23 of the 45 games (51%), and the breaker won 13 of the 25 games in which he made a ball on the break (52%).

Break-and-run games:
  • Shane -- 0 out of 20 (0%)
  • Earl -- 4 out of 25 (16%)
  • Total -- 4 out of 45 (9%)

Interesting but irrelevant fact -- the 9-ball was made on the break 6 times, and they were all by Earl. The 9-ball on the break does not count as a win in this match, but making it 6 times out of 25 breaks (24%) is highly abnormal. Was it just a small-numbers aberration, or does racking it on the foot spot lead to more 9's on the break?

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DAY 2 -- Sat., Dec. 3
Shane broke 29 times, with the following results:
  • Made at least one ball (and did not foul) and won the game -- 14 (48%)
  • Made at least one ball (and did not foul) and lost the game -- 8 (28%)
  • Broke dry or fouled but won the game -- 3 (10%)
  • Broke dry or fouled and lost the game -- 4 (14%)

Earl broke 24 times, with the following results:
  • Made at least one ball (and did not foul) and won the game -- 7 (29%)
  • Made at least one ball (and did not foul) and lost the game -- 8 (33%)
  • Broke dry or fouled but won the game -- 4 (17%)
  • Broke dry or fouled and lost the game -- 5 (21%)

For the two players combined, a ball was made on the break (without fouling) 37 of the 53 games (70%), the breaker won 28 of the 53 games (53%), and the breaker won 21 of the 37 games in which he made a ball on the break (57%).

Break-and-run games:
  • Shane -- 7 out of 29 (24%) including a 3-pack
  • Earl -- 2 out of 24 (8%)
  • Total -- 9 out of 53 (17%)


DAY 3 -- Sun., Dec. 4
Shane broke 25 times, with the following results:
  • Made at least one ball (and did not foul) and won the game -- 13 (52%)
  • Made at least one ball (and did not foul) and lost the game -- 5 (20%)
  • Broke dry or fouled but won the game -- 2 (8%)
  • Broke dry or fouled and lost the game -- 5 (20%)

Earl broke 19 times, with the following results:
  • Made at least one ball (and did not foul) and won the game -- 5 (26%)
  • Made at least one ball (and did not foul) and lost the game -- 4 (21%)
  • Broke dry or fouled but won the game -- 4 (21%)
  • Broke dry or fouled and lost the game -- 6 (32%)

For the two players combined, a ball was made on the break (without fouling) 27 of the 44 games (61%), the breaker won 24 of the 44 games (55%), and the breaker won 18 of the 27 games in which he made a ball on the break (67%).

Break-and-run games:
  • Shane -- 6 out of 25 (24%)
  • Earl -- 4 out of 19 (21)
  • Total -- 10 out of 44 (23%)


Match Totals (All 3 Days)
Shane broke 74 times, with the following results:
  • Made at least one ball (and did not foul) and won the game -- 32 (43%)
  • Made at least one ball (and did not foul) and lost the game -- 19 (26%)
  • Broke dry or fouled but won the game -- 9 (12%)
  • Broke dry or fouled and lost the game -- 14 (19%)

Earl broke 68 times, with the following results:
  • Made at least one ball (and did not foul) and won the game -- 20 (29%)
  • Made at least one ball (and did not foul) and lost the game -- 18 (26%)
  • Broke dry or fouled but won the game -- 14 (21%)
  • Broke dry or fouled and lost the game -- 16 (24%)

For the two players combined, a ball was made on the break (without fouling) 89 of the 142 games (63%), the breaker won 75 of the 142 games (53%), and the breaker won 52 of the 89 games in which he made a ball on the break (58%).

Break-and-run games:
  • Shane -- 13 out of 74 (18%)
  • Earl -- 10 out of 68 (15%)
  • Total -- 23 out of 142 (16%)
These 23 break-and-run games included only one 2-pack (by Earl on Day 1) and only one 3-pack (by Shane on Day 2). The other 18 B&R games were all singles.
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AtLarge said:
I'm keeping track of the break results for the Shane/Earl match that started last night.

The conditions for this match are a bit different from anything for which I've previously posted break stats. The conditions include the following: Diamond Pro-Am Table with 4 1/8" corner pockers, Simonis 860 cloth that is not new, Delta-13 Elite rack, winner breaks, breaker racks for himself, 9-ball is racked on the foot spot, placement of balls in the rack is up to the racker, break from the box, 9-ball made on the break in any pocket spots up, no jump cues, call all shots, incoming player has option to pass the shot back after any miss or if a ball is pocketed on a called safety.

The first day's results were as follows.

Shane broke 20 times, with the following results:
  • Made at least one ball (and did not foul) and won the game -- 5 (25%)
  • Made at least one ball (and did not foul) and lost the game -- 6 (30%)
  • Broke dry or fouled but won the game -- 4 (20%)
  • Broke dry or fouled and lost the game -- 5 (25%)

Earl broke 25 times, with the following results:
  • Made at least one ball (and did not foul) and won the game -- 8 (32%)
  • Made at least one ball (and did not foul) and lost the game -- 6 (24%)
  • Broke dry or fouled but won the game -- 6 (24%)
  • Broke dry or fouled and lost the game -- 5 (20%)

Combined, a ball was made on the break (without fouling) 25 of the 45 games (56%), the breaker won 23 of the 45 games (51%), and the breaker won 13 of the 25 games in which he made a ball on the break (52%).

Break-and-run games:
  • Shane -- 0 out of 20 (0%)
  • Earl -- 4 out of 25 (16%)
  • Total -- 4 out of 45 (9%)

Interesting but irrelevant fact -- the 9-ball was made on the break 6 times, and they were all by Earl. The 9-ball on the break does not count as a win in this match, but making it 6 times out of 25 breaks (24%) is highly abnormal. Was it just a small-numbers aberration, or does racking it on the foot spot leads to more 9's on the break?
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Thanks much for taking the time, this is great info.
 
I must say that I am a real true Shane fan. I admire his work integrity and his dedication to be all that he can be.

Seeing Earl hitting 'em strong also makes me smile.

This is like a battle of the Old Guard and the New Guard. So far, it looks like a very close race, neck and neck. :)

Thanks for the stats!
 
AtLarge said:
The conditions for this match are a bit different from anything for which I've previously posted break stats. The conditions include the following: Diamond Pro-Am Table with 4 1/8" corner pockers, Simonis 860 cloth that is not new, Delta-13 Elite rack, winner breaks, breaker racks for himself, 9-ball is racked on the foot spot, placement of balls in the rack is up to the racker, break from the box, 9-ball made on the break in any pocket spots up, no jump cues, call all shots, incoming player has option to pass the shot back after any miss or if a ball is pocketed on a called safety.
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How big is the "break box"..?
AtLarge said:
Interesting but irrelevant fact -- the 9-ball was made on the break 6 times, and they were all by Earl. The 9-ball on the break does not count as a win in this match, but making it 6 times out of 25 breaks (24%) is highly abnormal. Was it just a small-numbers aberration, or does racking it on the foot spot leads to more 9's on the break?
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Was the 9-ball made all 6 times in the same pocket (and if so, which pocket)..?
 
I wonder what odds you could have gotten if you wanted to bet SVB would go 0 for 20 on break and runs.
 
i thought he did break and run one last night.......

it might have been the Beer and chinese food getting the best of me thow lol

Thanks for the stats and Thanks TAR
 
Trent said:
i thought he did break and run one last night.......

it might have been the Beer and chinese food getting the best of me thow lol

Thanks for the stats and Thanks TAR
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I didn`t see the match. Just going by the stats posted above. I have since seen a different stat sheet that shows he had one. I don`t know which is correct.
 
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Trent said:
i thought he did break and run one last night.......

it might have been the Beer and chinese food getting the best of me thow lol

Thanks for the stats and Thanks TAR
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I thought so too. I thought it was right after Earl shanked the short 9-ball shot into the rail causing the chat room to swear in disbelief. Then after Shane ran out the next rack (I think?), Earl clapped. I might have missed an inning.

Edited: Just happened to catch TAR loop right at that game. Shane pushed out and then ran the rack after Earl's safety attempt failed. Interesting that SVB didn't do a single BNR!
 
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mnb said:
How big is the "break box"..?
Was the 9-ball made all 6 times in the same pocket (and if so, which pocket)..?
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I think the break box is diamond to diamond -- 25" wide.

I didn't record which pocket(s) the 9-ball went in, but I do remember that it went multiple times in the foot-rail pocket on the breaker's left side.
 
TorranceChris said:
... Edited: Just happened to catch TAR loop right at that game. Shane pushed out and then ran the rack after Earl's safety attempt failed. Interesting that SVB didn't do a single BNR!
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Agree. I just saw that game again. Shane made the 6- and 7-balls on the break. Shane pushed. Earl played safe on the 1-ball but left a window for Shane. Shane ran out.
 
My Version of the same stats...I did confirm that Shane did not have a break and run on day one, thanks for clarifying that. As for Day 2 stats, i tried to pay close attention to the Accu-Stat scoring system so i may not have 100% of some of the Non Accu-Stat categories. When watching live it's hard to not watch Earl even when he is not at the table, for fear of missing something only Earl would do.


Edit: I modified software to total Accu-Stats for each day.
 

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Bank2Win said:
My Version of the same stats...
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Thanks, Jason. You've got some stats that I haven't tracked.

You've got .810 and .853 for Accu-Stats performance scores. Are those revised numbers for Day 1? Do you have the averages for Day 2? Surely Shane was higher than Earl on Day 2?
 
AtLarge said:
Thanks, Jason. You've got some stats that I haven't tracked.

You've got .810 and .853 for Accu-Stats performance scores. Are those revised numbers for Day 1? Do you have the averages for Day 2? Surely Shane was higher than Earl on Day 2?
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I modified software to total Accu-Stats for each day. The report now shows both days accu-stat score.
 
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