Virus Warning When I Read AzBilliards Discussion Forum

JAM

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I now post on my new computer desktop with Windows 7, which is running Norton 360 as the virus protection.

I get a red exclamation point when I come onto AzBilliards Discusison Forum.

It says that there are "Drive-by Downloads" on AzBilliards Discussion Forum, which are "malicious." :eek:

According to Norton 360, a "Drive-by Download" is this: A drive-by download is computer code that takes advantage of a software bug in a Web browser to make it do something that the attacker wants—such as run malicious code, crash the browser, or read data from the computer. Software bugs that are open to browser attacks are also known as vulnerabilities.

Is this something to be worried about? :confused:
 
Here is a PrintScreen screenshot of what Norton 360 says.
 

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I now post on my new computer desktop with Windows 7, which is running Norton 360 as the virus protection.

I get a red exclamation point when I come onto AzBilliards Discusison Forum.

It says that there are "Drive-by Downloads" on AzBilliards Discussion Forum, which are "malicious." :eek:

According to Norton 360, a "Drive-by Download" is this: A drive-by download is computer code that takes advantage of a software bug in a Web browser to make it do something that the attacker wants—such as run malicious code, crash the browser, or read data from the computer. Software bugs that are open to browser attacks are also known as vulnerabilities.

Is this something to be worried about? :confused:

I have been seeing that message for years now (also use Norton 360). Also, I have been telling Mike H for years now that his front page has been corrupted.

For all we know, Mike has fixed the problem, or at least says he has.

You realize that this warning could be the result of someone reporting this a long time ago. So, bottom line, don't worry about it unless some weird new things start happening to AZ's website.
 
JAM, I just took a quick look into this. In short, it's not a problem directly with AZ, but something embeded in AZ's page (which is little solace to you or anybody who gets the alert).

The alert is triggering on one of the embedded ads or objects in AZ's page. It's likely an ad element that rotates adverts to a different ad every time you visit the page (or every once in a while), so when the ad doesn't display, the warning will not be triggered, but on a visit where the page does try to display the ad, the warning will appear. That's why sometimes it may appear and other times not.

Anyway, the Norton detection is accurate, but since it's detecting and blocking you are not affected by the threat. Until the advertiser modifies their code or until AZ stops using that advertiser, unfortunately this won't go away.
 
I now post on my new computer desktop with Windows 7, which is running Norton 360 as the virus protection.

I get a red exclamation point when I come onto AzBilliards Discusison Forum.

It says that there are "Drive-by Downloads" on AzBilliards Discussion Forum, which are "malicious." :eek:

According to Norton 360, a "Drive-by Download" is this: A drive-by download is computer code that takes advantage of a software bug in a Web browser to make it do something that the attacker wants—such as run malicious code, crash the browser, or read data from the computer. Software bugs that are open to browser attacks are also known as vulnerabilities.

Is this something to be worried about? :confused:

Jen,

Don't know much about computer viruses. Do know that is a GREAT picture of you as your avatar.

Good luck finding an answer. Run AVG and Microsoft's own security software. Never seen a screen as you posted or a similar message from any security I've used over the last ten years visiting AZ Billiards.

Lyn
 
Thanks Whitewolf, ABS, and CardiacKid for the info. I won't worry about it too much, then. I was just concerned since I have a brand-new computer. I want to protect it as much as I can. I'm not a computer guru and don't understand a lot of computer-related mumbo jumbo, I guess. :embarrassed2:

Lynn, thanks for the good word about the avatar. You will NEVER, EVER guess who is on the other side of me in that photo. I chopped out my face in the photo because I seem happy. I actually was at this time in my life when Keith and I were going to Joss tournaments.

This one was taken in Albany, which Keith won twice. It was right after April 15th, and I'm always broke dog after April 15th. When Keith won the tournament at Golden Cue, it was like we hit the lottery. We need that money so badly. :cool:

I don't remember who took this picture with my camera, but it's kind of funny that I was with somebody who *hates* having his photo taken, and yet he allowed this photo to be taken of him and me. :grin-square:

I'll probably have to change the avatar soon, so he doesn't get too mad, since I've spilled the beans of the avatar origin. :wink:

We used to both be early risers, the first two on the premises at pool events, and we were also both smokers at the time. He and I shared quite a few conversations while puff, puff, puffing those cigarettes. Man, I'm so glad I quit 4-1/2 years ago. :yes:
 

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Thanks Whitewolf, ABS, and CardiacKid for the info. I won't worry about it too much, then. I was just concerned since I have a brand-new computer. I want to protect it as much as I can. I'm not a computer guru and don't understand a lot of computer-related mumbo jumbo, I guess. :embarrassed2:

Lynn, thanks for the good word about the avatar. You will NEVER, EVER guess who is on the other side of me in that photo. I chopped out my face in the photo because I seem happy. I actually was at this time in my life when Keith and I were going to Joss tournaments.

This one was taken in Albany, which Keith won twice. It was right after April 15th, and I'm always broke dog after April 15th. When Keith won the tournament at Golden Cue, it was like we hit the lottery. We need that money so badly. :cool:

I don't remember who took this picture with my camera, but it's kind of funny that I was with somebody who *hates* having his photo taken, and yet he allowed this photo to be taken of him and me. :grin-square:

I'll probably have to change the avatar soon, so he doesn't get too mad, since I've spilled the beans of the avatar origin. :wink:

We used to both be early risers, the first two on the premises at pool events, and we were also both smokers at the time. He and I shared quite a few conversations while puff, puff, puffing those cigarettes. Man, I'm so glad I quit 4-1/2 years ago. :yes:

There seems to be a "Webb" of intrigue surrounding the photo!

Lyn
 
My virus program, Microsoft Security Essentials, picked up three viruses last week while logged on here. I sent a message to the boss, but have heard nothing back.
I didn't feel at well, last Friday. Low grade temp, sniffles. :smile:
 
:rotflmao1::rotflmao1::rotflmao1:

Talk about early risers, remember that guy sleeping under his equipment. Actually multiple times. Really miss his smiling face around the pool world. Hope he is OK.

Lyn
 
I now post on my new computer desktop with Windows 7, which is running Norton 360 as the virus protection.

I get a red exclamation point when I come onto AzBilliards Discusison Forum.

It says that there are "Drive-by Downloads" on AzBilliards Discussion Forum, which are "malicious." :eek:

Is this something to be worried about? :confused:

I'm pretty sure your computer is just talking about the NPR threads.
 
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My virus program, Microsoft Security Essentials, picked up three viruses last week while logged on here. I sent a message to the boss, but have heard nothing back.
I didn't feel at well, last Friday. Low grade temp, sniffles. :smile:

I use the same, MSE, and have never got a virus warning from AZ. Hope yer better now, Bud;)
 
I now post on my new computer desktop with Windows 7, which is running Norton 360 as the virus protection.

I get a red exclamation point when I come onto AzBilliards Discusison Forum.

It says that there are "Drive-by Downloads" on AzBilliards Discussion Forum, which are "malicious." :eek:

According to Norton 360, a "Drive-by Download" is this: A drive-by download is computer code that takes advantage of a software bug in a Web browser to make it do something that the attacker wants—such as run malicious code, crash the browser, or read data from the computer. Software bugs that are open to browser attacks are also known as vulnerabilities.

Is this something to be worried about? :confused:

JAM,

I've been leary to even peek in here (the forums) for a while now. The only two times my comuter ever got a virus was when I was on the forums.

I have Kaspersky and it indicated that my computer was now infected. Running a full scan would not clear the issue. Whenever I would go onto Google, Yahoo or WebCrawler to search for anything, each site always directed me to some ad site.

One of my friends suggested I restart the computer on safe mode, then role it back to an earlier date (a date before the infection was noticed) and then restart the computer and run a new Kaspersky scan. This time, Kaspersky picked it up, quaratined it and gave instructions on how to remove it.

I'm THE dumbest guy on here with technology or computers. The only reason I knew what I just wrote was because I wrote the instructions down.

It's funny this topic was on here. I spoke with Blackjack today for close to two hours and mentioned to him about the virus issues here. I figured I'd take a chance and peek in and I came across your thread.

If it happens again, I'll contact Jerry or Mike in case they're not aware that this is happening again.

I hope that you and yours (Keith, not the computer!:grin:) are well!
 
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JAM,

I've been leary to even peek in here (the forums) for a while now. The only two times my comuter ever got a virus was when I was on the forums.

I have Kaspersky and it indicated that my computer was now infected. Running a full scan would not clear the issue. Whenever I would go onto Google, Yahoo or WebCrawler to search for anything, each site always directed me to some ad site.

One of my friends suggested I restart the computer on safe mode, then role it back to an earlier date (a date before the infection was noticed) and then restart the computer and run a new Kaspersky scan. This time, Kaspersky picked it up, quaratined it and gave instructions on how to remove it.

I'm THE dumbest guy on here with technology or computers. The only reason I knew what I just wrote was because I wrote the instructions down.

It's funny this topic was on here. I spoke with Blackjack today for close to two hours and mentioned to him about the virus issues here. I figured I'd take a chance and peek in and I came across your thread.

If it happens again, I'll contact Jerry or Mike in case they're not aware that this is happening again.

I hope that you and yours (Keith, not the computer!:grin:) are well!

Hi, Terry! Hope you and yours are enjoying life to the fullest. I am so happy right now. I'm on the verge of a new frontier in my life. :cool:

There have been several threads about the virus threats on this forum. I'm not sure if Jerry and Mike think it is helpful to reply in them, I guess. I'm kind of sure they are aware of the issue, though. :wink:

I'm concerned only because I'm using a brand-new computer, and I want it to stay well. I have an HP Phoenix i8 1180 with 12GB RAM and Beats audio. I love, love, love it. :grin-square:

I usually use Trend Micro as my virus protection and never had a problem. This computer came with Norton, and I renewed it after the expiration period. I wonder if I should have gone with Trend.
 
Hi, Terry! Hope you and yours are enjoying life to the fullest. I am so happy right now. I'm on the verge of a new frontier in my life. :cool:

There have been several threads about the virus threats on this forum. I'm not sure if Jerry and Mike think it is helpful to reply in them, I guess. I'm kind of sure they are aware of the issue, though. :wink:

I'm concerned only because I'm using a brand-new computer, and I want it to stay well. I have an HP Phoenix i8 1180 with 12GB RAM and Beats audio. I love, love, love it. :grin-square:

I usually use Trend Micro as my virus protection and never had a problem. This computer came with Norton, and I renewed it after the expiration period. I wonder if I should have gone with Trend.

Trend Micro is at the bottom of the heap as far as ranked anti-virus/firewall goes.. I have used it before btw but I stick with Norton 360. You should subscribe to PC Magazine or PC World etc. to become computer literate. That's how I started.
 
Off-topic computer nerd time. Long and boring~!

The best resource for seeing which antivirus products are effective... is this website: http://www.av-comparatives.org/

They are a well-known nonprofit organization (funded by the austrian government... not by the software companies) that does very thorough independent tests of all the major antivirus programs. Then then publish the results so the public can make an informed decision about antivirus products.

Virus protection is not well understood by average PC users, and even some of the "power users" hold misconceptions. Sites like av-comparatives help dispel those myths.

In a nutshell:

- At least a half dozen products will catch 98-99% of known older viruses. The testers hit them with about 300,000 old viruses. See the on-demand test for the breakdown. All the programs work pretty much the same way, when it comes to this part of the job.

- For unknown, newer viruses, it's a little different. This heuristic test is where the good programs stand out and the lousy ones fall flat. Each scanner constantly monitors the system for suspicious virus-like code in files you try to open/run/move, and raises a flag if something looks fishy.

There was a recent change in the way they test this -

Sometimes one exploit (aka a security hole) can lead to dozens of new viruses. Different guys try to capitalize on it in different ways, with different viruses.

In the past, if ten different viruses used the same exploit, the testers would ding the antivirus program ten times for failing to catch it. Now they only ding them once. They also limited the window as far as what viruses could be called "new" ... they only test stuff released ~24 hours after the last update at the end of march. You'd think that'd be a very limited number of viruses to test with, but it's still over 4000 samples. Yeah, that many get released daily.

This has somewhat inflated the numbers showing in their test results...
it used to be that ALL the av products would only catch about 55-60% of these (a month's worth of brand new viruses). All the products were within a few percentage points of each other under the strict test. After the recent change, it looks more like 85-95%. But the reality hasn't changed... if you don't update for a month, you can get nailed by about 40% of the viruses released that month, no matter what program you use. In other words, even with good antivirus programs it's still basically a coin flip if you happen to stumble across a brand new virus. So you better let it update automatically as often as possible, daily or even several times a day.

- These programs update constantly and the "Best" is a moving target. What worked great a year ago or even a month ago may have changed drastically.

- Cutting to the chase:

These guys appear at the top of the test results frequently:

• GData - best paid AV IMO.
• Avira - offers free and paid, but you put up with a once-a-day ad if you go with the free version.
• Kaspersky - always hovering in the top 3 somewhere

In my opinion, based on the tests, there's not much reason to go with anything else besides one of these three. They have performed well month after month, they catch everything, they don't have too many false alarms, and they're all very usable (they aren't bloated and intrusive like some antivirus programs).

- Speaking of bloated, Norton and McAfee are probably the #1 and #2 most popular paid ones, and they're lousy. They have just managed to market themselves well and make deals with the equipment manufacturers to get themselves pre-installed on most of the new computers sold today. Symantec/Norton actually refuses to participate in the tests even though all the other major guys (MS, McAfee, AVG, etc.) submit to them. Officially it's because they claim the tests aren't 'well-rounded' enough or some such. Unofficially it's probably because they know they'd embarrass themselves. Norton lets a LOT of viruses slip by and is a tremendous pain in the ass, making itself as difficult as possible to turn off or uninstall.

- Microsoft's program is overrated. People use it because it's quiet and doesn't nag you very often. But over time MSE has gotten worse and worse and now frequently scores at the very bottom of these tests. For example, in the test for older, known viruses... 13 products caught over 98%. MSE only caught ~93%. Dead last. In the heuristic test, it's 13th out of 17. AVG also gets frequently recommended as a free one, and it's arguably worse... it's scores a little below average in both kinds of tests, and hassles you constantly with false alarms.

- By the way, this norton warning is probably another false alarm. If there is a drive-by virus being shown, it often happens through one of the ads displayed on the site (which come from external sources), not from the forum itself. Those with ad-blockers are much less likely to get hit by these. But I'm guessing both the site and its ads are fine and norton's just being stupid.
 
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