Offensive rotation 10 ball drill

S

super195v

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
While on the road for work I traveled to a couple different halls in western pa. I met a great player at one hall that showed me this game/drill as a test of skill level for any player. I really liked it and use it a lot now so I thought id share. The idea is that there is no safe involved and it goes fast. Also big table vs small table is indifferent because small table=clusters and big table=some tougher long shots.

Rack a ten ball rack with ten in middle, one in front, and 2/3 in back corners. Break and anything made stays down ( except 10 gets spotted) doesnt matter scratch on break or not make a ball. Take ball in hand an run in order as many as you can. Do this for ten racks and keep your score. There is then a points system from pro to d player depending on how many points in your total.

I have played it with about 6 players now and it's pretty close to accurate.

Anyone ever played this type of game/drill to get a feel where they are ?

I always considered myself a B-B+ player and in 30
Racks or so I'm about right in the middle of the B range consistently.
 
There are a number of drills that score your ability with a point system as well. Dr daves web site details them all Nine ball ghost, equal offense, Fargo, bowlliards. I have done them all but tend to lean towards a little more to nine ghost and equal offense.

Curious what is point system ranking that you describe?
 
The way he described it was as follows:
80+ pro
70-79 road player/semi pro
65-69 a++
60-64 a+
55-59 a
50-54 b+
45-49 b
40-44 b-
30-39 c
20-29 d
10-19 beg

Seems pretty realistic, highest player I have seen yet is 65-68 4 - 10 rack sets
 
joe tucker has that drill/test in his guaranteed improvement book
Joe Tucker has a thing he uses that proves to be pretty accurate. It goes like this:

Rack up some 10 ball. Break from anywhere. After the break, take ball in hand and run out, in rotation (1, 2, 3, etc...) All balls made on the break count. Any balls made on a scratch are spotted. Once you miss, the rack is over. You should shoot 10 racks and count the total balls made for each rack. After 10 racks, take your total and compare it to this chart:

30-35 D+
36-40 C
41-45 C+
46-50 B
51-55 B+
56-60 A
61-65 A+
66-70 A++
71-up Pro

I'm not sure if it matters what size table. I like this rating system because it takes a lot into account as far as player ability i.e. shotmaking, position play, cluster breaking, break skill. It makes no difference if you play 10 ball or not, the results are very close to reality
 
Thanks. I will give this a whirl. If you make a ball(s) on the break and scratch, are you leaving them down or spotting? If you leave them down it counts as one point? Every ball is one point? If so, averaging 4.5 seems low for a B player.

The nine ghost drill uses the same concept, each ball one point but nine ball is two points for ten per rack total. Ten racks and the following is the rank:

Novice
0-16 is d-
17-28 is d
29-38 is d+

Intermediate
39-46 is c-
47-54 is c
55-62 is c+

Advanced
63-70 is b
71-78 is b+

Superior
79-88 is a
89-100 is a+
 
check this out

super195v said:
... Anyone ever played this type of game/drill to get a feel where they are ?
Click to expand...

Well done with your discovery.

Unfortunately not many people realize how important various drills are to actually improve one’s game.
Also, congratulations on having patience to do these kind of things.

Just to your information, I recently came across an official scheme based on 10-ball that anyone may join in; they keep your overall statistics and, if you keep improving, you may also make a buck or two.

It may look complicated at first but once you get the grasp of things, it comes as really good incentive and also fun.

Check out:
http://www.behindtherocktour.com/

Having it examined, I also found out that the scheme is run by a very positive people so I thought it would be nice to “spread the word”.:smile:
Keep drilling, super195v :wink:

On the occasion:
Anyone out there gave a test to the "Behind the Rock Tour"?
What are your opinions?
 
bbb said:
joe tucker has that drill/test in his guaranteed improvement book
Joe Tucker has a thing he uses that proves to be pretty accurate. It goes like this:

Rack up some 10 ball. Break from anywhere. After the break, take ball in hand and run out, in rotation (1, 2, 3, etc...) All balls made on the break count. Any balls made on a scratch are spotted. Once you miss, the rack is over. You should shoot 10 racks and count the total balls made for each rack. After 10 racks, take your total and compare it to this chart:

30-35 D+
36-40 C
41-45 C+
46-50 B
51-55 B+
56-60 A
61-65 A+
66-70 A++
71-up Pro

I'm not sure if it matters what size table. I like this rating system because it takes a lot into account as far as player ability i.e. shotmaking, position play, cluster breaking, break skill. It makes no difference if you play 10 ball or not, the results are very close to reality
Click to expand...

I've done this one, haven't in a while, though:rolleyes:
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top