The Better I Get the Worse I Am (sorta long)

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The better I get the worse I am.

I remember when I first started playing pool (queue up the flashback music)…it was in a small town arcade where a lot of local boys would hang out. The place just had two little bar tables. We would all play for a few dollars and I really hated getting beat. I can remember one game where I’m getting ready to shoot the winning 8 ball and one of the guys is waving a wade of dollar bills in the air next to the pocket to try and shark me. We didn’t know anything about sharking back then, so this sort of behavior was expected, if not encouraged. It did get a bit out of hand at times. Like the time my buddy was trying to shoot the eight into the corner pocket, only to look up and see the full moon. :nono: It wasn’t even dark outside. We all agreed at that point, maybe we were going too far.

Luckily for me, a friend of mine had a table in his garage. I don’t know for sure, but I think it was one of those Sears types. It was just a little bar table. I started practicing on that thing all the time, even in the middle of winter. That’s when I first wore a “pool glove”, just a pair of thin wool winter gloves. I would turn on the gas grill that was only a few feet away for minutes at a time to fight off the frost bite. Those were some good times. It didn’t take long for my immediate circle of friends to think I was crazy. I mean they enjoyed pool and all, but they didn’t love it! So I would practice by myself. I quickly got good enough to beat all the local boys. So I thought I was pretty good.

I grew up in a small town in between Flint & Saginaw, Michigan. I can remember driving into Flint to go into a real pool room, where real players played. What’s funny is I can remember one of the first times I ever went into one of the local rooms, Richie Richeson was there playing someone, this was around the mid 90’s. I remember watching him play at the time since someone at the counter said he was one of the better players in Michigan and thinking to myself “this guy's not that good. He’s just making a bunch of easy shots. I could make those.” You see, I thought I was pretty good back then.

Fast forward a bit…and I’m in Kalamazoo, Michigan and I start playing a bit more seriously, and I start to actually learn some things about pool. I get to watch some great players play, but this time I have more of an understanding of the game. I started to realize how difficult the game really was. Once it dawned on me how far behind these great players I really was, I just said forget it and I quit. I guess I realized I really wasn’t that good after all. I put my cue down for quite a few years after this.

Here in the past five years or so I have been practicing a lot (don’t tell anyone), and really working on my game. About as much as a working man with a family can. I’ve gotten better for sure. But it’s funny how with every step I take up the mountain to pool greatness, I realize how much further I have to go. The better I get, the more I realize how truly great world class players are.

I see it all the time on this forum, where guys come on here and you can just tell that they have not yet realized how exceptional the pool players at the top really are. When I see this, I smile because I know most of us have gone through this transformation. First you think you’re a great player, even though you can’t run 10 balls on a 9 foot table. Then you realize you’re horrible so you get really discouraged and maybe you even give up the game for a time. Then something happens. It’s this final phase where you realize that you’re in it for life. You’re going to try to climb that mountain to pool greatness even if it kills you. You’re now a lifer. There’s no more quitting. No more looking back. With each step you take, you realize you have further to go than you even realized. But you don’t care anymore. In the back of your mind, you know you will probably only make it so far but you press on anyways. This is when pool really becomes fun. You no longer get so frustrated with the game. You take the good with the bad and you sort of enjoy both of them.

I never really understood those people that for some reason just had to climb Mt. Everest. I’ve seen those shows and I just shook my head wondering why on earth these people would risk their lives for such a trivial pursuit. I think I now understand why. It satisfies something deep within them that nothing else does. That’s what pool does for me.

I know this is so cliché and we have all heard it a million times but at least for me it has become very true, not just with pool but with life: It’s the journey and not the destination. Maybe you share this same view of the game. Maybe not. If not, I bet you one thing - if you take this approach to the game you will not be nearly as frustrated with it as you were before. Trust me on that.
 
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I agree 100%...it's funny how one person can think they are good, until they see and try to attempt even what the pros do and not even come remotely close.

Awhile back, Neil and I had a couple of PMs going back and forth to which I will remember this quote forever...the words may be a hair different as I don't have the PM anymore but you will get the gist of it.

Becoming a 7 in APA (8 ball) is basically the start of becoming a pool player. So basically even as a 7 in APA, you are really not a "good" pool player, but at the beginning stage of potentially becoming a good pool player. It's a gut check IMO, but oh so true compared to the top level players.
 
Nice post, Chris! I really enjoyed reading that. In a lot of ways, your "growing up" experiences in this grand sport of ours mirrors mine; but in a lot of ways they differ as well.

Here's mine:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?p=1461890#post1461890

After putting my cues away for 14 years (that focusing on the career thing), I'm finally at a point where I'm in a position to sharpen my chops again. And it's like the "bug" has never left me!

Thank you again for such a heartwarming and uplifting post!
-Sean
 
I agree 100%...it's funny how one person can think they are good, until they see and try to attempt even what the pros do and not even come remotely close.

Awhile back, Neil and I had a couple of PMs going back and forth to which I will remember this quote forever...the words may be a hair different as I don't have the PM anymore but you will get the gist of it.

Becoming a 7 in APA (8 ball) is basically the start of becoming a pool player. So basically even as a 7 in APA, you are really not a "good" pool player, but at the beginning stage of potentially becoming a good pool player. It's a gut check IMO, but oh so true compared to the top level players.

Yeah, it's like climbing up to the top of the hill, just to see the mountain behind it. I was stoked when I got to a 7.. then I realized it was like starting over, only harder. I didn't really start playing until I was 30 and even then my play has been primarily in bars on Valleys. One thing that comforts me is in the idea that the me of now would easily beat the me of 2 or 3 years ago. The only measuring stick now is different titles/divisions, packs, etc, and that stuff doesn't move all that fast. To make matters worse, Portland isn't exactly a pool mecca, making gauging your progress a little more difficult.
 
The better I get the worse I am.

I remember when I first started playing pool (queue up the flashback music)…it was in a small town arcade where a lot of local boys would hang out. The place just had two little bar tables. We would all play for a few dollars and I really hated getting beat. I can remember one game were I’m getting ready to shoot the winning 8 ball and one of the guys is waving a wade of dollar bills in the air next to the pocket to try and shark me. We didn’t know anything about sharking back then, so this sort of behavior was expected, if not encouraged. It did get a bit out of hand at times. Like the time my buddy was trying to shoot the eight into the corner pocket, only to look up and see the full moon. :nono: It wasn’t even dark outside. We all agreed at that point, maybe we were going too far.

Luckily for me, a friend of mine had a table in his garage. I don’t know for sure, but I think it was one of those Sears types. It was just a little bar table. I started practicing on that thing all the time, even in the middle of winter. That’s when I first wore a “pool glove”, just a pair of thin wool winter gloves. I would turn on the gas grill that was only a few feet away for minutes at a time to fight off the frost bite. Those were some good times. It didn’t take long for my immediate circle of friends to think I was crazy. I mean they enjoyed pool and all, but they didn’t love it! So I would practice by myself. I quickly got good enough to beat all the local boys. So I thought I was pretty good.

I grew up in a small town in between Flint & Saginaw, Michigan. I can remember driving into Flint to go into a real pool room, where real players played. What’s funny is I can remember one of the first times I ever went into one of the local rooms, Richie Richeson was there playing someone, this was around the mid 90’s. I remember watching him play at the time since someone at the counter said he was one of the better players in Michigan and thinking to myself “this guys not that good. He’s just making a bunch of easy shots. I could make those.” You see, I thought I was pretty good back then.

Fast forward a bit…and I’m in Kalamazoo, Michigan and I start playing a bit more seriously, and I start to actually learn some things about pool. I get to watch some great players play, but this time I have more of an understanding of the game. I started to realize how difficult the game really was. Once it dawned on me how far behind these great players I really was, I just said forget and I quit. I guess I realized I really wasn’t that good after all. I put my cue down for quite a few years after this.

Here in the past five years or so I have been practicing a lot (don’t tell anyone), and really working on my game. About as much as a working man with a family can. I’ve gotten better for sure. But it’s funny how with every step I take up the mountain to pool greatness, I realize how much further I have to go. The better I get, the more I realize how truly great world class players are.

I see it all the time on this forum, where guys come on here and you can just tell that they have not yet realized how exceptional the pool players at the top really are. When I see this, I smile because I know most of us have gone through this transformation. First you think you’re a great player, even though you can’t run 10 balls on a 9 foot table. Then you realize you’re horrible so you get really discouraged and maybe you even give up the game for a time. Then something happens. It’s this final phase where you realize that you’re in it for life. You’re going to try to climb that mountain to pool greatness even if it kills you. You’re now a lifer. There’s no more quitting. No more looking back. With each step you take, you realize you have further to go than you even realized. But you don’t care anymore. In the back of your mind, you know you will probably only make it so far but you press on anyways. This is when pool really becomes fun. You no longer get so frustrated with the game. You take the good with the bad and you sort of enjoy both of them.

I never really understood those people that for some reason just had to climb Mt. Everest. I’ve seen those shows and I just shook my head wondering why on earth these people would risk their lives for such a trivial pursuit. I think I now understand why. It satisfies something deep within them that nothing else does. That’s what pool does for me.

I know this is so cliché and we have all heard it a million times but at least for me it has become very true, not just with pool but with life: It’s the journey and not the destination. Maybe you share this same view of the game. Maybe not. If not, I bet you one thing - if you take this approach to the game you will not be nearly as frustrated with it as you were before. Trust me on that.

Playing like a pro in practice is one Everest - competing like a pro is a whole new one.

The mental levels are the ones that kill you. You are right; enjoying the game is key, for you will never beat it.
 
I agree 100%...it's funny how one person can think they are good, until they see and try to attempt even what the pros do and not even come remotely close.

Awhile back, Neil and I had a couple of PMs going back and forth to which I will remember this quote forever...the words may be a hair different as I don't have the PM anymore but you will get the gist of it.

Becoming a 7 in APA (8 ball) is basically the start of becoming a pool player. So basically even as a 7 in APA, you are really not a "good" pool player, but at the beginning stage of potentially becoming a good pool player. It's a gut check IMO, but oh so true compared to the top level players.

Sounds like you get it.

What they say around here is - there are sevens, and there are real sevens.
 
Nice post, Chris! I really enjoyed reading that. In a lot of ways, your "growing up" experiences in this grand sport of ours mirrors mine; but in a lot of ways they differ as well.

Here's mine:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?p=1461890#post1461890

After putting my cues away for 14 years (that focusing on the career thing), I'm finally at a point where I'm in a position to sharpen my chops again. And it's like the "bug" has never left me!

Thank you again for such a heartwarming and uplifting post!
-Sean

I'm glad you liked it. Writing has always been a task for me. I have never really enjoyed it. Plus with so many really good writers on here (yourself included) I feel like my posts are always quite flimsy. I know they are filled with all kinds grammatical errors that I can't even identify. But oh well, I do my best.

As far as your account is concerned, I had read that before, but it's so good I read it again. You really paint a good picture. It really could be the opening scene to a movie. Then again, I say that about all great pool stories. But yours really resonates with me. I love it. Good stuff.
 
Yeah, it's like climbing up to the top of the hill, just to see the mountain behind it. I was stoked when I got to a 7.. then I realized it was like starting over, only harder. I didn't really start playing until I was 30 and even then my play has been primarily in bars on Valleys. One thing that comforts me is in the idea that the me of now would easily beat the me of 2 or 3 years ago. The only measuring stick now is different titles/divisions, packs, etc, and that stuff doesn't move all that fast. To make matters worse, Portland isn't exactly a pool mecca, making gauging your progress a little more difficult.

I love knowing that the current me could beat the old me too. My hope is that I will still love the game when it's the other way around.
 
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Playing like a pro in practice is one Everest - competing like a pro is a whole new one.

The mental levels are the ones that kill you. You are right; enjoying the game is key, for you will never beat it.

I know you catch a lot of flak around here, but I'm one of those guys that actually agrees with a lot of what you say.

Your quote above is right for sure. But for me, at this point I would be happy if I could just play up to my ability. That's definitely not at the pro level.


Then again, what the heck is pro anyway? :)
 
Playing like a pro in practice is one Everest - competing like a pro is a whole new one.

The mental levels are the ones that kill you. You are right; enjoying the game is key, for you will never beat it.

Tim:

You and I have had our run-ins, but I have to tell ya, I really agree with this post -- it's about as hard a truth as granite.

It's one thing to practice and have successes; it's quite another to get under those lights and compete at the same level as one does in practice.

The mental game is key, and it's players like Ralf Souquet and Johnny Archer and Darren Appleton and countless others that I admire for their ability to suck it up and pony up.

Regardless, enjoying the game that beats you (and will always beat you) is the key to longevity within it.

Nice post,
-Sean
 
I'm glad you liked it. Writing has always been a task for me. I have never really enjoyed it. Plus with so many really good writers on here (yourself included) I feel like my posts are always quite flimsy. I know they are filled with all kinds grammatical errors that I can't even identify. But oh well, I do my best.

As far as your account is concerned, I had read that before, but it's so good I read it again. You really paint a good picture. It really could be the opening scene to a movie. Then again, I say that about all great pool stories. But yours really resonates with me. I love it. Good stuff.

Thank you, Chris. And btw, I don't know why people always try to point out their "writing inadequacies" when responding (particularly to me), but I for one don't pick apart people's posts for grammar, spelling, or anything like that. "Content" and its packaging is the thing with me; not the aesthetics.

I like to see posts like yours, and I go for them like white on rice. As you say, good stuff!

-Sean <-- has been thinking of authoring a pool novel or movie script for some time...
 
I like your post, i love the growth potential as a pool player. I get better and better as a player. And at the same time my ego gets humbled the more i realize how bad i am. I make a ball and it sneaks in the pocket on the right but i wanted it to go in on the left
I feel just as bad as if i missed all togeather. Its like magic most people only see the show they dont see all the prep work. All the practice the pros do to make something so hard look so easy.. good post
 
I can totally relate. When I was about 6 or 7, my mom had an issue with alcoholism. This resulted in her and her boyfriend of the time going to bars. (Back when drinking and driving or driving drunk wasn't nearly as offensive as it is today.) My mom would give me some quarters and I would play video games until they were gone. I remember seeing a few guys play pool for money and put 2&2 together. So I used all my quarters to learn pool to make money to play video games. Once I started playing pool and trying to figure out how to play, I forgot video games. A bar owner took interest in my interest in the game and started to show me some things. As I started to spend more time at the pool tables, he began to open them for me. By the time I was about 10, I was playing pretty well. One guy complained to bar owner he shouldn't have to pay if I didn't. The bar owner said if he could beat me, he could play the table. So I played the guy with the bar owner coaching me on and I beat the guy and I was hooked. I played pool at least an hour a week until I moved to Arizona. I was about 20 when I was gifted with a Pechauer cue from a girlfriend and that's when I peaked. I played so well and was so consistent that I could beat anybody in a bar here. So I went to a real pool hall that was nice, nice 9 foot tables, tourneys and real good pool players. I watched them and studied them. I couldn't beat over half of them but I sure tried. An older guy there taught me 9-ball and how to shape my game with English and speed. I hustled for a year or so and then my son was born. I put the cue away and until about 2 months ago, I didn't play so much. I would play friends at bars over a few beers and they finally quit playing with me because I wouldn't let them shoot and they got tired of racking.

Now I'm embarking on a default rating in APA at a 4. I've played skilled people who say I am higher than that so my mission is to level out at least to a 6 or 7 then try BCA or TAP.

Thanks for posting this because its been refreshing to know I'm not the only one and that we have all had our bouts with playing and keep coming back to it.

I see you up on that mountain and I'm on my way, hot on your trail! :thumbup:
 
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Good post.

Reminds me of a teacher who drew a circle on the blackboard with an x in the center. The x is you, and everything in the circle is everything you know. The more you learn, the bigger that circle of knowledge gets.

But the line of the circle is the border of what you know, and what you don't know. Like a window- you can see outside of the circle's border at the things that you don't know yet, but are ready to learn.

As the circle gets bigger and bigger (you are learning more and more), the more your window looking out at what you don't know gets bigger, too. So the more you learn, the more you realize how much is out there that you don't know.

Moral: The less you know, the more you think you know. The more you know, the more you realize how freaking big the universe is out there, and how much you still need to learn.

I hope that made sense. It's harder to say without drawing the pictures of circles.
 
Good post.

Reminds me of a teacher who drew a circle on the blackboard with an x in the center. The x is you, and everything in the circle is everything you know. The more you learn, the bigger that circle of knowledge gets.

But the line of the circle is the border of what you know, and what you don't know. Like a window- you can see outside of the circle's border at the things that you don't know yet, but are ready to learn.

As the circle gets bigger and bigger (you are learning more and more), the more your window looking out at what you don't know gets bigger, too. So the more you learn, the more you realize how much is out there that you don't know.

Moral: The less you know, the more you think you know. The more you know, the more you realize how freaking big the universe is out there, and how much you still need to learn.

I hope that made sense. It's harder to say without drawing the pictures of circles.

Made perfect sense to me.

I like the poster quit for years and then took the game back up. I'm older, my eyes aren't as good as they were, my reflexes have dimiinisted, my stamina isn't as good, but I still love to play. I can't play as well as a lot of folks, but I play a damn site better than a lot too.:smile:
 
Wow, so true!!!!

Makes me remember when I started playing, I was 12 and my dad would bring me to this bar where we could play snooker and I was proud of myself everytime I'd make a ball. Afterva month or two of snooker with el padre, i tried 8 ball on a 7'....i got my rear handed over to me so I played there a lot after school and on the weekends at the arcade. Afterva while I started to beat most of the people there and I had discovered a youth center near school who also had a 7'. There was a board where kids would write their names and it was "winner stays" format....again, I wouldn't win a game against the other kids who had been playing there everyday. After a year, I could stay there for 2-3 hours without losing. I moved and stopped playing afterwards.

Fast forward to six years ago and I was in a mind set that I literally had nothing left to learn but just needed practice. A friend of mine told me that if I took a lesson with the house pro, he'd give me 50% rebate on the table rates at the bar and that was the only reason why I first took it. I, then realized I knew nothing about the. game. Didnt know how to play a stop shot, I had never used side spin (only draw to impress the ladeys). So I took another lesson and got the bug.

I'm getting better everyday but everytime I "get better" all suddenly, I noticed more flaws in my game.

I'm almost a AAA in the SCAB rating systems.
 
Great post

Right after my first break and run and how long it took for me to get it I realized the exact thing you're talking about.

I felt great after finally getting it, but then I was like.. Wow. I really, really suck compared to the guys I watch on youtube every day... I couldn't do this three times in a row any given day, hell it took me forever just to get one!


But I will get three in a row consistently one day. Not sure when, but one day.
 
The better I get the worse I am.

I remember when I first started playing pool (queue up the flashback music)…it was in a small town arcade where a lot of local boys would hang out. The place just had two little bar tables. We would all play for a few dollars and I really hated getting beat. I can remember one game were I’m getting ready to shoot the winning 8 ball and one of the guys is waving a wade of dollar bills in the air next to the pocket to try and shark me. We didn’t know anything about sharking back then, so this sort of behavior was expected, if not encouraged. It did get a bit out of hand at times. Like the time my buddy was trying to shoot the eight into the corner pocket, only to look up and see the full moon. :nono: It wasn’t even dark outside. We all agreed at that point, maybe we were going too far.

Luckily for me, a friend of mine had a table in his garage. I don’t know for sure, but I think it was one of those Sears types. It was just a little bar table. I started practicing on that thing all the time, even in the middle of winter. That’s when I first wore a “pool glove”, just a pair of thin wool winter gloves. I would turn on the gas grill that was only a few feet away for minutes at a time to fight off the frost bite. Those were some good times. It didn’t take long for my immediate circle of friends to think I was crazy. I mean they enjoyed pool and all, but they didn’t love it! So I would practice by myself. I quickly got good enough to beat all the local boys. So I thought I was pretty good.

I grew up in a small town in between Flint & Saginaw, Michigan. I can remember driving into Flint to go into a real pool room, where real players played. What’s funny is I can remember one of the first times I ever went into one of the local rooms, Richie Richeson was there playing someone, this was around the mid 90’s. I remember watching him play at the time since someone at the counter said he was one of the better players in Michigan and thinking to myself “this guys not that good. He’s just making a bunch of easy shots. I could make those.” You see, I thought I was pretty good back then.

Fast forward a bit…and I’m in Kalamazoo, Michigan and I start playing a bit more seriously, and I start to actually learn some things about pool. I get to watch some great players play, but this time I have more of an understanding of the game. I started to realize how difficult the game really was. Once it dawned on me how far behind these great players I really was, I just said forget and I quit. I guess I realized I really wasn’t that good after all. I put my cue down for quite a few years after this.

Here in the past five years or so I have been practicing a lot (don’t tell anyone), and really working on my game. About as much as a working man with a family can. I’ve gotten better for sure. But it’s funny how with every step I take up the mountain to pool greatness, I realize how much further I have to go. The better I get, the more I realize how truly great world class players are.

I see it all the time on this forum, where guys come on here and you can just tell that they have not yet realized how exceptional the pool players at the top really are. When I see this, I smile because I know most of us have gone through this transformation. First you think you’re a great player, even though you can’t run 10 balls on a 9 foot table. Then you realize you’re horrible so you get really discouraged and maybe you even give up the game for a time. Then something happens. It’s this final phase where you realize that you’re in it for life. You’re going to try to climb that mountain to pool greatness even if it kills you. You’re now a lifer. There’s no more quitting. No more looking back. With each step you take, you realize you have further to go than you even realized. But you don’t care anymore. In the back of your mind, you know you will probably only make it so far but you press on anyways. This is when pool really becomes fun. You no longer get so frustrated with the game. You take the good with the bad and you sort of enjoy both of them.

I never really understood those people that for some reason just had to climb Mt. Everest. I’ve seen those shows and I just shook my head wondering why on earth these people would risk their lives for such a trivial pursuit. I think I now understand why. It satisfies something deep within them that nothing else does. That’s what pool does for me.

I know this is so cliché and we have all heard it a million times but at least for me it has become very true, not just with pool but with life: It’s the journey and not the destination. Maybe you share this same view of the game. Maybe not. If not, I bet you one thing - if you take this approach to the game you will not be nearly as frustrated with it as you were before. Trust me on that.

Awesome post, spot on. Pool: The sport that is loved by all for a short time but only some for life. Its one of the most frustrating games on earth when trying to master.
 
Right after my first break and run and how long it took for me to get it I realized the exact thing you're talking about.

I felt great after finally getting it, but then I was like.. Wow. I really, really suck compared to the guys I watch on youtube every day... I couldn't do this three times in a row any given day, hell it took me forever just to get one!


But I will get three in a row consistently one day. Not sure when, but one day.

Ahhh, the elusive break and run. And then there are the times when you have about 2 or 3 balls left on the table and you start thinking "wait, I might really do this" and miss the next shot. With perfect shape. For me, it's almost been like that scene in the movie Old School.... link below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yYDzLUH1NE
 
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Ahhh, the elusive break and run. And then there are the times when you have about 2 or 3 balls left on the table and you start thinking "wait, I might really do this" and miss the next shot. With perfect shape. For me, it's almost been like that scene in the movie Old School.... link below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yYDzLUH1NE

For me it's the 8 or the 9 I leave on the table. Almost always.

It's about a 30% chance I'll make that last damned ball if I run the rest of the rack. Unless it's perfectly straight in.

I like to shark myself often.
 
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