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Who is the best pool player ever, when it comes to all games? - 05-19-2013, 03:15 AM

This question has come up before in the past.

Many people say Efren or Shane are the Best pool players ever, and we can all agree they are not far off in their assumption.

I am inclined to say HAROLD WORST is the best pool player ever!!!!!!!

Notice my opinion is based on all around and multiple disciplines. Ask Ronnie Allen, he put the answer on audio. I'll send the link upon request.

Bottom line, who do you think is the BEST POOL PLAYER EVER ?

Yes, I expect KEITH to be named as a likely suspect. (Shout out to JAM)


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05-19-2013, 04:15 AM

To really find out who is truly the best all around ever is impossible to say when comparing players from different decades. Even to find out who is the better player from the top players that are at the top of their game now is hard to do unless you take like the top 6 players and have them play a lot of round robin races to see who has the highest average counting points from 1st, 2nd, and third finishes. Just my opinion. Johnnyt


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05-19-2013, 05:12 AM

Ronnie Allan was of the same opinion, Harold Worst.


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05-19-2013, 05:14 AM

Gotta consider Nick Varner too, as he won championships in virtually all disciplines in his days, including 9 ball, 8 ball, one pocket, banks, etc...
  
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05-19-2013, 05:41 AM

This question will be debated forever with no solid answer.


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05-19-2013, 06:22 AM

Worst, tragically, didn't do it for long enough to be in the conversation, but at his best, he was as good as almost anyone, a legend of great standing. Let's stay on course, though, this thread is about pool, so Worst's 3-cushion credentials are irrelelvant.

Reyes stands alone as the best all-around. He's the best 8-ball player ever, and possibly the best one-pocket player ever. He is a top ten ever at nine ball and has shined on multiple occasions at straight pool. He has five Derby City all around titles. Enough said. There may never be another Efren.

The best all-around player in US history is Varner, who won the world championship in each of banks, one pocket, 14.1, 8-ball and 9-ball. Wonder whether anyone else will ever match that.

Lassiter, who won two of the three disciplines in three straight Johnston City events, is in the conversation and isn't far behind Varner. It is not often discussed, but it's one of the greatest feats in the history of American pool.

Mike Sigel is in the conversation, too. The best 14.1 player of the past generation, he was also a giant in nine ball and played all games well.

Honorable mention to John Schmidt, winner of the US Open 9-ball, winner of the Derby City one pocket event, and a 400+ ball runner at 14.1 who won the title at the World 14.1 event in 2012. Honorable mention to another American who played all the games at the highest level named Eddie Kelly.

Alex Pagulayan and Shane Van Boening may end up in the conversation, but they aren't there yet. Both are young enough that they can aspire to being the best ever.

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05-19-2013, 06:22 AM

when i saw the title my first thought went to harold worst
  
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Cool all around - 05-19-2013, 06:25 AM

Many great all around players . Dallas West, Allen Hopkins,Mike Sigel,Nick Varner and the great Harold Worst.On a given day?
  
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05-19-2013, 08:04 AM

When , Harold Worst won those last tourny's towards the end of his life,,,and ,,Knowing that He was about to die,,,Sick with Cancer,,,,and still pulled off-- What He DID--best player of all time in my way of thinking
  
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My pick too.... - 05-19-2013, 08:12 AM

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Gotta consider Nick Varner too, as he won championships in virtually all disciplines in his days, including 9 ball, 8 ball, one pocket, banks, etc...
Nicky....he's the only player that I know of, that went to play Efren in his prime in his home country and definitely beat em. Only weakness in his game is age, and maybe billiards. He never lets up.


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05-19-2013, 08:17 AM

Some great old footage of Harold worst playing 9-ball with Boston Shorty.

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Worst, tragically, didn't do it for long enough to be in the conversation, but at his best, he was as good as almost anyone, a legend of great standing. Let's stay on course, though, this thread is about pool, so Worst's 3-cushion credentials are irrelelvant.

Reyes stands alone as the best all-around. He's the best 8-ball player ever, and possibly the best one-pocket player ever. He is a top ten ever at nine ball and has shined on multiple occasions at straight pool. He has five Derby City all around titles. Enough said. There may never be another Efren.

The best all-around player in US history is Varner, who won the world championship in each of banks, one pocket, 14.1, 8-ball and 9-ball. Wonder whether anyone else will ever match that.

Lassiter, who won two of the three disciplines in three straight Johnston City events, is in the conversation and isn't far behind Varner. It is not often discussed, but it's one of the greatest feats in the history of American pool.

Mike Sigel is in the conversation, too. The best 14.1 player of the past generation, he was also a giant in nine ball and played all games well.

Honorable mention to John Schmidt, winner of the US Open 9-ball, winner of the Derby City one pocket event, and a 400+ ball runner at 14.1 who won the title at the World 14.1 event in 2013. Honorable mention to another American who played all the games at the highest level named Eddie Kelly.

Alex Pagulayan and Shane Van Boening may end up in the conversation, but they aren't there yet. Both are young enough that they can aspire to being the best ever.
I would have to agree. I am surprised that Mizerak isn't in the conversation though.


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I would have to agree. I am surprised that Mizerak isn't in the conversation though.
Mizerak would have answered (as he has in the past) Efren Reyes.


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Worst, tragically, didn't do it for long enough to be in the conversation, but at his best, he was as good as almost anyone, a legend of great standing. Let's stay on course, though, this thread is about pool, so Worst's 3-cushion credentials are irrelelvant.

Reyes stands alone as the best all-around. He's the best 8-ball player ever, and possibly the best one-pocket player ever. He is a top ten ever at nine ball and has shined on multiple occasions at straight pool. He has five Derby City all around titles. Enough said. There may never be another Efren.

The best all-around player in US history is Varner, who won the world championship in each of banks, one pocket, 14.1, 8-ball and 9-ball. Wonder whether anyone else will ever match that.

Lassiter, who won two of the three disciplines in three straight Johnston City events, is in the conversation and isn't far behind Varner. It is not often discussed, but it's one of the greatest feats in the history of American pool.

Mike Sigel is in the conversation, too. The best 14.1 player of the past generation, he was also a giant in nine ball and played all games well.

Honorable mention to John Schmidt, winner of the US Open 9-ball, winner of the Derby City one pocket event, and a 400+ ball runner at 14.1 who won the title at the World 14.1 event in 2013. Honorable mention to another American who played all the games at the highest level named Eddie Kelly.

Alex Pagulayan and Shane Van Boening may end up in the conversation, but they aren't there yet. Both are young enough that they can aspire to being the best ever.
Nicky also was the ACU-I 14.1 champion in 1969 & 70. And in 69 he had to beat Mike Carella to win, so back then 14.1 collegiate players played Waaaaaaay better than those of today.


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Nicky also was the ACU-I 14.1 champion in 1969 & 70. And in 69 he had to beat Mike Carella to win, so back then 14.1 collegiate players played Waaaaaaay better than those of today.
I think I'm somewhat dismissive of collegiate competitive feats as in the 1979 ACUI event the Eastern regional runner-up was .................... me!
  
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