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08-28-2013, 09:56 PM

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Casino HR employee at interview: "So Mr. Frost, what was you previous profession?"

Scott: "I was a professional pool player."

Casino HR employee: "Well, that concludes our interview, thank you for your time... we will be in touch............"

Scott: " "
I actually believe Scott could get a job in the casino as a dealer with little trouble as he has some connections with them and knows some people. That saying it is not always what you know but who you know applies. I think for many players this was their last hope with Bonus Ball because that is how bad off pool is that even what was considered by many to be a long shot or a sure failure was the best shot that pro pool players had at making a real living.

Scott retiring is little more than saying I am going to get a good paying job but he will still be playing the same tournaments he was before so I would not call it really retiring but more of an awakening. He knows pro pool cannot pay the bills or raise a family because the life of a pro player is nothing more then gambling whether it is one on one or going to any major tournament getting so called odds on the money with so called added money. Good luck to Scott with whatever he does.


  
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08-28-2013, 10:03 PM

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Man,,,Mike Davis last week, now Scott Frost,

looks like Bonus Ball was the last straw ?

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08-28-2013, 10:52 PM

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Any chance Ken 4 fun would throw in the towel for good? I heard another poster mention taking up a collection for that.
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Back in the day...it was easy peasy to become a casino dealer. The casinos would train you, and as you became proficient in one game, they'd train you in the next. When I left Nevada, I could deal 21...shoe and hand deck, roulette, craps, and finally...poker. Of course, back then many were still mob run, but it was at the end of that hey day. Dealers were treated very well.

Nowadays.. it is my understanding, that it's a much tougher game to break into a decent casino. Also, the economy really hit casino dealers badly...so the unemployment rate amongst them...especially in NV...was very high.

If you're good and honest...you may well land a job with a decent casino.

I will say this...it was hands-down my most favorite job ever. Especially when I dealt poker.

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ok Fast, here goes - but pls know that i am sure i will have no agreement...
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ok Fast, here goes - but pls know that i am sure i will have no agreement... - 08-29-2013, 12:21 AM

i know this will fall on deaf ears. i know, i know, but anyway...

i think the ONLY game that will bring a wide audience is 14.1 and here are some reasons why:

1. it is more like snooker and most of the world loves to watch snooker. hence it has the potential for world appreciation.
2. rotational games have luck and with that strategy, but most folks like to see 'skill' and not luck.

a. one pocket is for pros and not for a wide audience.
b. 8-ball is great for a bar, everybody knows the game. but boring to watch on tv.
c. 9-ball/10-ball is a; how you broke, and a lot of luck involved.

but 14.1 has almost no luck but how you foresee and execute and in my Not Humble Opinion is the answer to the best game for a wide audience here in the USA and abroad and Perfect for tv too.

end of my useless rant...

all the best anyway,
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I actually believe Scott could get a job in the casino as a dealer with little trouble as he has some connections with them and knows some people. That saying it is not always what you know but who you know applies. I think for many players this was their last hope with Bonus Ball because that is how bad off pool is that even what was considered by many to be a long shot or a sure failure was the best shot that pro pool players had at making a real living.

Scott retiring is little more than saying I am going to get a good paying job but he will still be playing the same tournaments he was before so I would not call it really retiring but more of an awakening. He knows pro pool cannot pay the bills or raise a family because the life of a pro player is nothing more then gambling whether it is one on one or going to any major tournament getting so called odds on the money with so called added money. Good luck to Scott with whatever he does.
  
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08-29-2013, 12:23 AM

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It also amazes me to see that Scott beat Dippy out of god knows how much 2 or 4 weeks ago and now is retiring?? I thought Dippy was the retirement plan for Pool players?? At least Bucktooth says it to all that challenge him that you can retire playing him. I know its the tooth but you have to had it to him... He's got the grapes and BR most of the time... Ynou should've emptied Dippy when you had the chance...
Scott was side betting and not playing Dippy so no big score was made. One thing is for sure it will be a long time before there is a big money match like the one Scott and Dippy had. It was one of the top money matches in pool history and I am glad to have been a part of it along with witnessing 15s, 16s, 17s and even 18 and out! Thanks Scott for the memories bud and see you down the road.


  
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08-29-2013, 12:27 AM

Not trying to be a jerk about things but after the announcements of other players I have this to say about it......




Hate to say it but Scott or any other sh+t fire pro player will NEVER fully retire from pool. Mike Davis announced the same statement not 2 weeks ago and he was playing in NYC this past week!!!! I whole heartily agree with most pros on the SEMI retiring bit but if there is a legitimate pro-am event in their area that will cash them at least 1k for first you bet your ass they will be there!! Dont get me wrong... Kudos to them and all other pros that see that the best way to live life is by having a good paying 9-5. Nothing wrong with that but If you are saying you are retiring that means you're taking Keithers route and RETIRE FULLY!!!!!

It would be better to just say, "I feel that what is best for me is to find a good paying job that allows me to play in tourneys when I can afford to go to them..." THAT my friend is how us amateurs do it!! Aint nothing wrong with that and guess what?? Every amateur that you play against WISHES that they had a 10th of the talent that you pros got!!! yet will still pony up our cash to beat you!! SO.... Scott I hear ya but take getting a good job a BLESSING!!!! You dont know how good you really have it when you got STEADY pay and the talent to Double it. Good luck on your retirement....


It also amazes me to see that Scott beat Dippy out of god knows how much 2 or 4 weeks ago and now is retiring?? I thought Dippy was the retirement plan for Pool players?? At least Bucktooth says it to all that challenge him that you can retire playing him. I know its the tooth but you have to hand it to him... He's got the grapes and BR most of the time... You should've emptied Dippy when you had the chance...

Again no disrespect but be like the rest of us and suck it up!! Do you know how many times ive been knocked in the dirt to achieve what I have achieved!?!?!?!!! Hundreds of times!! Life isnt fair but you choose what you want to do with it!! The only reason I am were I am today is because I got up and wiped the dirt off of me and pressed on!! Could I have done it better and faster??? SURE!!! But Im here NOW and I EARNED my way to the top!! Im not saying in the least that you arent a stone cold champion (which you are!!) but your field is a low yield field to make decent money.

Ive done the math on pro players and the amount you spend on travel, food, lodging and entry fees you have to place at least!! top 13 out of 128 players to make any money at all. Again.... I love your game and heart (and my god have I seen your heart in action) but is it enough??? Nah... Find something good and save up for tourney like the rest of us bangers. I mean without us bangers you wouldn't have a top payout but again.... If you become the banger you got nothing to lose and all to gain....


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08-29-2013, 12:29 AM

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i know this will fall on deaf ears. i know, i know, but anyway...

i think the ONLY game that will bring a wide audience is 14.1 and here are some reasons why:

1. it is more like snooker and most of the world loves to watch snooker. hence it has the potential for world appreciation.
2. rotational games have luck and with that strategy, but most folks like to see 'skill' and not luck.

a. one pocket is for pros and not for a wide audience.
b. 8-ball is great for a bar, everybody knows the game. but boring to watch on tv.
c. 9-ball/10-ball is a; how you broke, and a lot of luck involved.

but 14.1 has almost no luck but how you foresee and execute and in my Not Humble Opinion is the answer to the best game for a wide audience here in the USA and abroad and Perfect for tv too.

end of my useless rant...

all the best anyway,
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Bonus Ball might have been the closest game to snooker I believe. I like 14.1 and one pocket is my favorite game but doubt either could make it good for TV. I like 8 ball or maybe a form of rotation or countdown 8 ball where 8 ball is the money ball, if you got stripes you go from 15 to the 8 ball in order and if I have solids I start at the 1 and go to the 8. You still have to make all your balls and adds the rotation aspect.

Another idea would be 8 ball where you have to bank the 8, a one rail bank is worth 1 point, two rails would equal two points and so on. Race to 8 points or whatever, a guy could be down 7-3 and nail a 5 railer to win which would be cool. Simple stuff for people to understand since its small variables on a well known game but freshens it up a little bit.

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In LV they've been hiring dealers the last year but you've got a better chance as a new dealer if you're Asian and female. Ed Kelly is a dealer in LV.
Unfortunately you are correct, they hire the Asians and especially the females because they have absolutely no balls whatsoever and will do whatever management says whenever they say it and wont do anything to make a dime off a player especially if they think it will get them into any trouble at all.

This aint opinion, its fact and i see it every single day.

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08-29-2013, 01:17 AM

It is sad yet not surprising that he has to retire. So many strong players I know have decided to call it quits as it was not worth wasting years of their life away with little to no money out there. While they could probably make some decent cash gambling, it is not worth it trying to go from place to place for scores.
  
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This is not that suprising but very disappointing.

Scott - and many others - just got to 'invested' in the Bonus Ball BS.

I will argue 'till blue in the face' that many of these gungho 'leaders' put too much faith into the mistruths and led others to follow. They were lied to over and over.

And those that led others need to make amends - or they will just do it again.

History can be a *****.

I also want to wish Scott the very best. Although a little erratic at time - I always liked Scott and he became one hell of a one pocket player!!

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It is sad. Someone came around and gave guys some "hope." It didn't pan out and now they are stuck with the same stuff they've had for years.
Had those guys not came around and gave people hope, the players would never feel like they've lost anything.
Those silly players should have just stuck with the same old promoters, and they wouldn't feel like they've lost anything, since the same old promoters seem to make sure they don't offer anything more.
  
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08-29-2013, 01:51 AM

This is the best move for Scott Frost at this time in his life while he's still got time to build a career. I personally realized in 2006 that it was impossible to earn a living in profesional pool. Even when you win a tournament, you're still stuck from the others. One must win, place, or show to break even. Nobody and keep that pace up, not even Shane.

There are a lot of good jobs out there for men if they apply themselves.

In particular, working on ships seem to pay big bucks. Friend of mine works on a tugboat or a barge. He works 180 days a year and makes $180,000, plus gets benefits.

Not many people want to get into this industry because you are away from home so much.

There's a shortage of maritime workers on all levels -- engineers, first mates, assistants, captains, et cetera -- and they cannot fill the job openings.

If I was a man, this would be the direction I'd go in. It would be kind of cool working 180 days out of the year and making that kind of dough.


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08-29-2013, 02:34 AM

Scott live in the P.I. For one year rather than dealing. You' ll get all the action make money both ways playing and teaching. They might even put you on Movies if you can act because you're a Big American - No BS. This happened to two people I know. That country loves us. The other neighboring countries like China, Taiwan and the likes might even pay you to pick your 1P World Champ Brain... Lots of possibilities with the right attitude!

If you're single I doubt you'll ever wanna leave there but if you're married it could be trouble. A friend of mine who was married to a beautiful Filipina here went to the P.I. With her friends Filipino husbands for a golfing trip. They wanted to show him a good time and out of 6 guys he was the only American the rest were flippers. Long story short. He never was able to play golf with his flipper buddies never set foot on a golf course and when he came back home to San Fran the first words out of his mouth when his 38yr old wife opened the door was "Get the F*** out of my house!!" The girl he met then was 25 he's 51. He's been going back ever since. The 25yo fling is no more, now he is with another 25yo that works in a Call Center I guess the others got older. True Story.

PS. He's not rich either he's worked for the power company for 28yrs he is waiting for his pension and moving down there. I've never seen him this happy, determined and focused in the 23yrs I've known him. He even looks younger


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