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Remington Arms moving 2,000+ jobs from NY to Alabama - 02-16-2014, 12:52 PM

Hope the sources are correct, if so, good for Remington.

http://yellowhammernews.com/national...bs-ny-alabama/

by Cliff Sims in Featured · National Politics · State Politics— 15 Feb, 2014

High level sources have informed Yellowhammer News that Remington, one of the world’s largest gun manufacturers, will on Monday join Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley in announcing that they are bringing over 2,000 jobs to Alabama.

The company is viewing the move into Alabama as an expansion, but it will likely impact their Ilion, NY plant as well. The New York facility currently employees around 1,200 people. It is expected to stay open, but with a reduced workforce.

“The company is making the move as an expansion of capacity, production and research,” a source told Yellowhammer on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly. “The demand for Remington products has skyrocketed recently, for obvious reasons, so they need to increase their production capacity. They will be expanding their research capabilities with the Alabama plant, too.”

The initial estimated impact on Alabama’s economy will be roughly $87 million.

According to Remington’s website, the company designs, produces and sells sporting goods products for the hunting and shooting sports markets, as well as military, government and law enforcement markets. Founded in 1816 in upstate New York, the Company is one of the nation’s oldest continuously operating manufacturers. Remington is the only U.S. manufacturer of both firearms and ammunition products and one of the largest domestic producers of shotguns and rifles. The Company distributes its products throughout the U.S. and in over 55 foreign countries.

Remington first began considering new locations after the New York legislature passed the Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement (SAFE) Act in response to the tragic shootings in Newtown, Conn. In addition to banning magazines that contain more than seven rounds and requiring instant background checks on ammo purchases, the NY SAFE Act broadened the definition of so-called “assault weapons” to include a wide range of guns, including the Bushmaster, which was being manufactured at Remington’s New York plant.

Almost half the states in the country have made pitches to Remington, included Arizona, Oklahoma, Michigan, South Carolina, Tennessee and Texas. But in the end, the company chose Huntsville, Ala.

The optics could not be worse for New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who told WCNY radio host Susan Arbetter about a month ago that “extreme conservatives” who are “right-to-life, pro-assault-weapon, anti-gay,” have “no place in the state of New York.”

Gov. Bentley and Alabama House Speaker Mike Hubbard both immediately responded to Cuomo’s comments.

“In Alabama we strongly support and uphold our great U.S. Constitution on which our nation and our states were founded,” Bentley told Yellowhammer. “The Constitution serves to protect individual Freedoms. Among them are those guaranteed in the Second Amendment, which protects the right of the people to keep and bear Arms. We will protect the Freedoms of individuals and welcome any one or any company to Alabama to discover as so many have, that we are a pro-business state filled with good, hardworking people.”

“If he doesn’t want hard working pro-life and pro-2nd Amendment people in his state, we will gladly take them here in Alabama,” Speaker Hubbard added.

It looks like that’s exactly what is happening.

Yellowhammer will have full coverage of the announcement on Monday.


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02-16-2014, 12:55 PM

Its going to be nice having them here in our city. They will be welcomed with open arms.
  
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02-16-2014, 01:34 PM

Thats what I like to see.

The more businesses that move out of NY the better.


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02-16-2014, 02:51 PM

New York Law, Regulations, Taxes, Permit Fees, Wacko Politicians and other BS coming out of Albany & the Headquarter of the Five Boughs make business want to move to place that are more friendly to people running businesses.


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New York Law, Regulations, Taxes, Permit Fees, Wacko Politicians and other BS coming out of Albany & the Headquarter of the Five Boughs make business want to move to place that are more friendly to people running businesses.
Come on now.
As a former NY'er I can assure you the place is virtually regulation and tax free.


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Come on now.
As a former NY'er I can assure you the place is virtually regulation and tax free.
I think the progressives in NY have a long term plan to drive certain people out then the property values dive down...Then they buy up land in a few years at rock bottom prices then put condos in for the yuppies...


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02-16-2014, 07:47 PM

Great news and big Remington fan. I, along with my three grandsons have been hitting the flea market on Saturdays and have made some good buys in the last month. I bought a Remington 870 wing master pump, Remington model 878 Automaster, which is the best shooting semi-auto I have ever shot. Picked up a Remington model 710, 270 with a nice scope and yesterday my son-in-law went with us and we both picked up two nice 30-30's, mine a Winchester and his a Marlin. What would these guns bring in good used condition in your area's? All shotguns are 12 gauge. My Winchester 30-30 is stainless steel, which I had never seen.
  
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Thats what I like to see.

The more businesses that move out of NY the better.
I thought you guys were into militarized border controls with no one coming or leaving without your permission?

What changed?

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I think the progressives in NY have a long term plan to drive certain people out then the property values dive down...Then they buy up land in a few years at rock bottom prices then put condos in for the yuppies...
Contrary to popular perspective. Most of NY is uninhabited.
Unfortunately the entire state pays for NYC.


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I am into not having a terrorist sneak across the border with a nuke or a bio weapon.

Of course if they are making an un-coerced trade between individuals for mutual benefit it really does not matter when or how the individual with the nuke or bio weapon uses it.
Right?
Because a sovereign nation does not need borders or a military to assure its populations safety from individuals intent on harm.


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I am into not having a terrorist sneak across the border with a nuke or a bio weapon.

Of course if they are making an un-coerced trade between individuals for mutual benefit it really does not matter when or how the individual with the nuke or bio weapon uses it.
Right?
Because a sovereign nation does not need borders or a military to assure its populations safety from individuals intent on harm.
So, if Remington is a terrorist organization or affiliated with one, then what?

I bet a "terrorist" has used a Remington. According to the "law" that's enough.

You support terrorism with you agreement about the move. Don't agree? Too bad, it is written and you must comply.

Or, if you sug the right cog, you might not have to comply....for now. But when another letter is your authority, you might have to comply.

And you are in full agreement with that principle of rule, if not a detail or two of it, so you cannot use the principle to complain, but must fall back on your pragmatism alone.


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Contrary to popular perspective. Most of NY is uninhabited.
Unfortunately the entire state pays for NYC.
I think NYC pays for the entire rest of the state, which is substantially in the rust belt. Isn't that more accurate than what you said?

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The answer to “does it matter?” may depend on a somewhat separate issue — the economic and fiscal stability of localities across the state. But first, let’s consider the numbers.

If indeed it is better to give than receive, New York City and its suburbs can count their blessings by the billions of dollars. City residents and businesses paid about $4.1 billion more to Albany in taxes and fees than the state returned in spending for education, health care, transit and other services in 2009-10. For the nearby suburban counties (Nassau, Suffolk, Rockland and Westchester), it was $7.9 billion more in taxes than came back in spending, a new Rockefeller Institute study finds.[1]

Where did the extra $12 billion go? North and west, up the Hudson River and along the Thruway corridor to Upstate regions that have struggled economically for much of the last half-century.


In fiscal 2010, the Upstate region generated less than 28 percent of the state’s taxes and other non-federal revenues (including SUNY tuition, lottery and other gambling profits, motor vehicle fees and so on). By contrast, Upstate received a much larger share of state-funded expenditures, 42 percent.

Look Downstate, and the ratios reverse. New York City generated 45 percent of state revenues in 2010, but received 40 percent of spending. The gap is even larger for the four major suburban counties: a collective 24 percent of revenues paid to Albany, and 18 percent of expenditures received in return.

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NYC pays for nothing.

What they spend is stolen from others. In all those pesky sort of legal ways.
That is why producers leave. First Rush Limbaugh, then Remington Arms, pretty soon
even Sean Hannity will think about it.

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I think NYC pays for the entire rest of the state, which is substantially in the rust belt. Isn't that more accurate than what you said?

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Perhaps you should move to rural NY and try opening a couple of tax bills.

The entire state pays for NYC.


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