What's with all the non-pricing?

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Bamacues

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Maybe I am just getting old...well, I know I am getting old, but things seem to bother me more.

Anyways, almost recovered totally from the latest surgery, and feel like I am ready to try some buying/selling again, but....

What is the deal with folks listing all the regular cues as "PM for price"... "Private Sale", etc? I know that people have a right to list an item any way that they want, but the price needs to be in the listing, unless it is a high-end collectible.

I have been known to buy a cue or two before, but if no price is listed, personally, I just pass over the ad. Price is the prime item that I am looking for to determine if a cue is in my ball-park or not.

I just don't get it that I need to PM someone for a price on a $200 Lucasi, etc.

I am not picking on anyone, so don't get upset. It just seems the trend lately is to leave the pricing out. Put a price on the item, and it will sell faster.

BTW, What's for sale? I have a Pierce sneaky pete (brand new) that I will be listing, and it WILL have a price listed with it, as soon as I can get pix/specs, etc. I will also have a brand new Pierce Walnut player available next week...all brand new, direct from Jim.

Joe
 
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Or like Car sales scam - just come in, we have everything. The idea is just to get you in. Once you are there, they will work you.
I really dislike sales tactics like that.
 
Too many flippers thinking this is a free eBay situation...wanting to sell to the highest 'bidder' behind the scenes. AZB is not a kinder and gentler place for buying and selling any longer.
 
Things change, and lets face it there's often times a lot of money flying around. People are trying to make as much as they can... Can't really blame anyone for that.

I doubt the OP was referring to me and my onslaught of WTT posts without prices, but I am actually trying to get help to price my cues. I've been out of the loop for over 10 years, thus I didn't put up any prices.... That said, I tend to agree with the OP, i often just skip over unpriced sticks.

I figure if someone puts a cue up for $4000 that's essentially the ebay buy it now price. If you want it bad enough or its a square deal, offer the ask. Otherwise offer less and see how you fair. Pretty easy.
 
I agree, im new and dont know so much about alot of these cues here. Im used to predator. Its whole new world to me, an awesome world. But I do feel like if they post a price for everyone to see, that its probably a some what fair price.
 
buzzmc said:
Things change, and lets face it there's often times a lot of money flying around. People are trying to make as much as they can... Can't really blame anyone for that.

I doubt the OP was referring to me and my onslaught of WTT posts without prices, but I am actually trying to get help to price my cues. I've been out of the loop for over 10 years, thus I didn't put up any prices.... That said, I tend to agree with the OP, i often just skip over unpriced sticks.

I figure if someone puts a cue up for $4000 that's essentially the ebay buy it now price. If you want it bad enough or its a square deal, offer the ask. Otherwise offer less and see how you fair. Pretty easy.
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It's really quite simple...do a search within the W/FS section and you can see all the cues by that maker, and what they may have sold for, if the original asking price wasn't removed. Also, there are members here that are very knowledgeable as to current cue values...a simple post in the Main section asking will usually get you the desired results...and possibly potential buyers. Internet searches as well as recent sales of a given maker's cues on eBay is a good barometer. There really is no excuse for feigning 'ignorance' in the internet age.
 
Bamacues said:
I just don't get it that I need to PM someone for a price on a $200 Lucasi, etc.
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I agree with you for the most part; Listing a price does make things easier. However, if you feel that you don't need to pm someone about a price then you don't need to be looking at that cue. You said it yourself, if there is no price then you just pass over it.

What was the point of complaining about people not posting prices? Every time people start *****ing about stupid things like this, they will come up with another way to get around it.

I have to post an asking price? How about I post everything for trade and note that I will sell it if you make an offer? See, there's no way to stop it.
 
Joe,
Some guys/gals who are registered "dealers" and can buy cues or shafts at a reduced price from the manufacturer use that method to avoid the manufacturer's minimum advertised price agreements. To advertise at the reduced price will jeopardize their ability to by gear at the lower price.
 
IMO, you should list a price.

If you don't list a price you must be ashamed of the price.

But that is just me.

Ken
 
People are using it as a bump tool....Sean was correct.....and more folks are just trying to play poker. They figure if you contact them,
you're more likely to be a interested prospective buyer but that's not always the case. At the same time, they don't have to do markdowns
because they overpriced the cue. When it doesn't sell, then the elevator price drops start and it weakens the chances of a sale since
what it really conveys is "I over-priced my cue and how does this new price sound?".

So if you omit the price and communicate via PM, e-mail or phone call with prospective buyers, the seller doesn't tip their hand and
some of them think it's better way of securing their asking price and avoid posting price drops on their sale thread.

Matt B.
 
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I always figure if someone isn't proud of the price, they want to talk you into it. for me, no price means high price. pass. on to the next one.
 
I agree, I hate the sale postings without a price and usually I pass them over. I especially hate the ones where it's "serious inquiry only" and no price. I mean, if it's a Szam or a Gina or something then okay, but other things that could be within my range or are within my range if I think the price is a good one...how can I know if I'm serious if I don't even know the price someone is asking?! It seems to be the same people doing it regularly too and it's quickly turned me off of dealing with them.
 
For the record, if there's no price listed, I simply close the thread and forget about it. List the price, otherwise i'll assume it's either too high and you're afraid to list it.
 
If a Searing, SW, Szamboti, Tad, Tasc, Gina....etc is listed on ebay the price is right out in the open and anyone who "watches" the cue will have it saved. What's the difference on there or on here, items on ebay are more less always in the same spot. What ever price is one a cue doesn't mean that's what it's going to sell for. A cue listed for $10K isn't openly negotiated by the buyer and seller so what's the difference. I'm a member on a vehicle website and if you don't post a price in the for sale area, whether it be for a window crank or the Holy Grail of cars the thread is deleted that day.

Take a look at the top cue websites, the cues are priced.

It's hard sometimes to keep track of a ton of pm's let alone hundreds more from people asking for a price....:thumbup:
 
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I must say I use be same way but I have seen people on here ridicule people's prices right on there thread I've also seen people steal the thread saying they got same cue much cheaper. Things like that have just made me say pm me for price cause I figure if serious about buying or trading for it u can at least take time to call text or email the person. But I know where ur coming from if we could stop the thread harassment I would be all for listing price and be honest never happened to me I've just seen it happen to many others which made me change how I list cues.
 
Gee I posed this same idea on one these culprit's threads and got flamed . He's a jerk anyhow. Would never buy from him or his parter in crime. Yes , just post a price. After all that is how business is typically done.
 
HoldemRw said:
I must say I use be same way but I have seen people on here ridicule people's prices right on there thread I've also seen people steal the thread saying they got same cue much cheaper. Things like that have just made me say pm me for price cause I figure if serious about buying or trading for it u can at least take time to call text or email the person. But I know where ur coming from if we could stop the thread harassment I would be all for listing price and be honest never happened to me I've just seen it happen to many others which made me change how I list cues.
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For the most part, I agree. However, there are a lot of newer members here, and sometimes, to protect those who just don't know better, something needs to be said. A 'for instance', a Helmstetter (made in Japan) was listed for $1K, with a price drop to $900. For those that know better, we all know that while it might not be 'fair', these cues avg right around $300 in the current (and past) market...doesn't much matter the model. Is it right to sit back and watch some poor sap get ripped off for a cue that he could've bought 3x over?

I know, I know...some will say...'it's none of your business'...but isn't that exactly what is wrong with our world today? If you're not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem.
 
You shouldn't be able to put something on w/fs without a price,or for trade without some kind of value put on it.If not put it on swap and shop.save everyone some time
 
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