I just received a 2 inch shaft insert for my Schon made by Fach Garcia and this is by far the best thing that has ever happened to me, that is pool related. I ran 51 balls my first inning without hitting a single ball for 6 days. This product makes my cue feel solid and even in my hand. I guess it's because it adds a little bit of front weight. I can reach a lot of shots without using a bridge or extension. It's helped with my shot making and cueball control. Now I know why John Schmidt and a lot of other players are using this insert. It truly is an incredible invention!!!
2 Inch shaft insert
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Insert or extension ?
I'm going to assume he means an extension.
Do you have any pics of this product?
Insert seems right since its in middle of the cue
51 Balls. And here all along, I thought that you had to use 30 dollar chalk in order to do that.
My mistake, 30 buck chalk and you don't have to chalk for 51 Balls.
Good idea and I believe that it has been done before. I would rather play with an extra 2" in the middle than be screwing an extension in the back every time I need it.
I tried the slip over extensions and didn't care for it much. Rather use a bridge.
I imagine that if this catches on, there will be many getting their cue makers to custom fit one for their cues.
Just off hand, I would rather make one that fits in the middle than mess with plugs, inserts and holes in your bumper to accommodate an extension in the rear. Or however the guys make those.
My mistake, 30 buck chalk and you don't have to chalk for 51 Balls.
Good idea and I believe that it has been done before. I would rather play with an extra 2" in the middle than be screwing an extension in the back every time I need it.
I tried the slip over extensions and didn't care for it much. Rather use a bridge.
I imagine that if this catches on, there will be many getting their cue makers to custom fit one for their cues.
Just off hand, I would rather make one that fits in the middle than mess with plugs, inserts and holes in your bumper to accommodate an extension in the rear. Or however the guys make those.
That's certainly what John Schmidt was using in Louisville at the BCA expo. I think you get mostly the same result from a forward-balanced cue stick. Maybe this device works best for someone whose cue doesn't really fit their game.
Many years ago Pat Fleming invented and sold a cue weight that was like a short section of pipe that slipped on over your shaft. It forward-balanced the cue for special shots such as shooting with an elevated bridge over an interfering ball. A more recent inventor has been selling something similar. Fleming's device had o-rings inside the tube to grip the shaft, IIRC.
Earl is not a crazy as people think. I told a friend a while back that longer cues were the future of pool. His response was "how would they fit in the case", i responded "make longer cases".
The only device I have ever heard of this description is the Balance-Rite extender. Of course this extension is a little over 4" in length.
Neat device, I use it on 10' tables and have become very use to it, I like it.
Today, with all these extremely light LD shafts, It makes sense to move the balance point of the cue forward. A two inch device might be just the ticket for any table.
If you have any pictures it would be great to see them.
Neat device, I use it on 10' tables and have become very use to it, I like it.
Today, with all these extremely light LD shafts, It makes sense to move the balance point of the cue forward. A two inch device might be just the ticket for any table.
If you have any pictures it would be great to see them.
To the OP -- do you know how much your insert weighs?
Another advantage to the Balance-Rite, it weighs 2 oz. Is the additional power it adds to your stroke. Like when your shooting a table length shot frozen from the opposite rail.
Obviously, additional down force in your bridge hand allows for a smoother stroke, especially with an open hand bridge,
When I play on a 10 footer for a weekend and then play a 9 for the first time after wards I really notice the difference. I miss the extra weight and balance point, but the added 4" feels awkward to me on a smaller table.
Perhaps I'll just play the Balance-Rite full time and adjust to it.
Another advantage to the Balance-Rite, it weighs 2 oz. Is the additional power it adds to your stroke. Like when your shooting a table length shot frozen from the opposite rail.
Obviously, additional down force in your bridge hand allows for a smoother stroke, especially with an open hand bridge,
When I play on a 10 footer for a weekend and then play a 9 for the first time after wards I really notice the difference. I miss the extra weight and balance point, but the added 4" feels awkward to me on a smaller table.
Perhaps I'll just play the Balance-Rite full time and adjust to it.
Rodney Morris was using one on his cue last weekend and he won the
Cole Dickson Memorial Tournament at San Francisco's Family Billiards
and after the tournament he talked about it on Pov Pool
Cole Dickson Memorial Tournament at San Francisco's Family Billiards
and after the tournament he talked about it on Pov Pool
First of all to let others know, it is an insert for the middle of the cue that is 2 inches in length. I would guess it probably adds a little over an ounce of front weight. I'm not sure of the correct way to explain what it does except to say the cuestick feels more solid in my hands and less effort to move the cueball around. It takes very little time to get used to it. I like the way it feels shooting off the rail as well, and just about every other situation. This item should catch on because everyone that tries it likes the feel and results
.They still call that an extension. A shaft insert is what you screw your cue butt into, usually made of brass.
Would you say that it adds length to the cue?
You screw the insert to the joint and then screw your shaft onto the insert. So 2 inches in length is added to your shaft which in turn adds an additional 2 inches to your cuestick. It adds a little more than an ounce of what feels like front weight.
I like it:wink:
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I had the black 3 inch extensions made by Donavon Mickelson at Micks Cue Sales for 3/8x10 and 5/16x14 joints. Good guy and excellent service. I'll add his contact info later.
The two 4 inch plain maple are BalanceRite extensions. I sanded the logo off while spinning each one.
The fiddleback 4 inch with finish is a 3/8x11 four inch extension made by Bob Owen.
All of my cues are forward weighted and I really like the additional forward weight of the extensions.
I had the black 3 inch extensions made by Donavon Mickelson at Micks Cue Sales for 3/8x10 and 5/16x14 joints. Good guy and excellent service. I'll add his contact info later.
The two 4 inch plain maple are BalanceRite extensions. I sanded the logo off while spinning each one.
The fiddleback 4 inch with finish is a 3/8x11 four inch extension made by Bob Owen.
All of my cues are forward weighted and I really like the additional forward weight of the extensions.
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With it installed, on a 'normal shot' that you can reach, do you use the same bridge length?
Then grip the cue a couple inches forward or where you grip without the insert/extension?
Does the hit feel stiffer, or do the shaft feedback characteristics feel/stay about the same?
Might have to try it.
OP...thanks for the post.
Then grip the cue a couple inches forward or where you grip without the insert/extension?
Does the hit feel stiffer, or do the shaft feedback characteristics feel/stay about the same?
Might have to try it.
OP...thanks for the post.