Review of 2016 DCC equipment

iusedtoberich

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The below is my review of the DCC 2016 equipment. These are my own observations after playing there for 6 days, in the banks, the one hole, and practicing. My opinion may differ from yours:)

Table:
The Diamond Pro/Am Smart table was used.

Pockets: Grade A. The pockets marking the balls issue from years past has been resolved. I did not see any black marks on any of the balls.

Phenolic rail material: Grade D. The dymondwood substitute, the new phenolic material, has some issues. Aesthetically it looks nice. However, when you touch it, it feels almost like you are touching fiberglass that has just been sanded. It sort of gives that itchy feeling. This might be because of the chalk. The surface seems to be slightly porous, and the chalk collects all over the rails. They all ended up being filthy on the tables I was playing on. I've never experienced this on any other table.

Rubber cushions: Grade C: The cushions still bounce way too fast IMO. After a missed short bank shot, I would say to myself, "how in the world did the OB bounce all the way back to the other end of the table?"

Table frame: Grade B: The legs on the Pro/Am model get in the way of my feet. My shoes would routinely hit them. This is because the legs are at the 4 corners of the table. In contrast, a GC or Diamond Professional model has the legs inset from the corners, giving clearance for your feet. I'm 6'3" tall, so this might not be an issue for shorter people.

Mechanical Bridge: Grade A: In the past, the bridge Diamond supplied was garbage. The bridge head would rotate on the stick, very loosely, and it was hard to be stable with the bridge. This year, it looks like they had an aftermarket black bridge head on it. I think the moose head one. I don't know if that is now standard Diamond equipment, or just for the DCC. In any case, the bridges supplied at this DCC were great.

Ball Storage: Grade C: All the tables had the wire metal racks installed to hold the balls for when playing banks or one hole. They are not an elegant solution, and feel like an afterthought. Also, when playing banks, only 9 balls are used. The other 6 balls had to be thrown under the table to keep them out of the way. I'd like to see this table redesigned to include ball storage like on a GC and the countless other commercial tables in the past 100 years. I also thought the metal rack itself could be improved (if it does not get eliminated entirely). It could have the wires adjusted to make the balls slope away from center. This way, there would be visual separation between the two opponent's scores. The way it is now, only a single wire separates the two sides.

Balls Performance: Grade A: The Cyclop ball set was used. They played just like Centennial balls or Aramith Super pro balls. I didn't have any skids, or see more than the average number of skids from other players. The CB now has a single "measles" on it. I did not see any balls roll off, either OB or CB.

Ball color: Grade F: The Cyclop ball set is the worst color in the world. I could barely tell what color was what. And several of the balls looked the same. Its a good thing I did not play in the 9 ball, as I'm sure I would have fouled shooting the wrong ball. Disclaimer, I'm red-green colorblind. BUT, other people that were not colorblind were having similar issues. Even when coming home and watching the remainder of the DCC on Accu-Stats, the commentators all had trouble identifying the balls. I'd recommend Cyclop copy exactly the colors used on the Aramith Tournament Duramith Set. (Aramiths new top of the line set). That set has the best color differentiation of any set, imo.

Lighting: Grade B: Some tables had the nicer big diamond lights. Some had the smaller bar table diamond light.

Score beads: Grade C: The score went up to a bastard number of 8, instead of a nice number like 10. This made gambling games not so nice when they turned the corner. The tables that had the bar-table light on it, there was not enough space on the string for all the beads, and the string sagged a lot. It was hard to move the beads over the right amount on those tables.
 
I couldn't attend this year but did follow some TV matches. The ball color is the worst addition to pool since WalMart started selling pool products.

In the 9 ball and 10 ball sessions, even the announcers were confused. The best thing about the balls: they seemed to be round.
 
Table frame: I bumped my knee on the coin slot several times (and in the same spot, ouch).

Mechanical Bridge: The moose head bridge was used but on many of the tables I played on it was attached a couple inches from the tip of the cue used to hold the slip on bridge. This made it difficult to get close enough to be effective on some shots.

Balls Performance: The Cyclop ball set was used? I was told that they used Aramith balls w/the Cyclop cueball, color was not an issue on the majority of the tables. However, I found the cueball to be a little bouncier then what would be provided in the Aramith set and found it hard to judge.

Ball color: The full set of "skittles" colored Cyclop balls were used on the Accustats arena table only from what I could see. Agree about the horrible colors.

My added comments are in red.

Dave

Sorry, I failed to comment that I had a ball at Derby and my thanks to all concerned.
 
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I am 6' 1" and personally the leg locations never really bothered me on Diamonds vs my Gold Crown.
I dont think the new phenolic tables look as good as the Dymondwood tables I never noticed anything odd or dirty about them. Last year we had around 60 brand new bar boxes for our BCA State Tournament.
I personally like a table that plays fast much better than a slow playing table.
As far as the Cyclop skittles colored balls I bought a set about 3 months ago and I am familiar with them now. At first I had a very difficult time knowing which ball was which number, in fact it can be difficult to even put a name on some of the colors.:eek:
 
I would like to add that I think the top players liked the new cballs better than the ones they had last year. I know that I did. John B.
 
I would like to add that I think the top players liked the new cballs better than the ones they had last year. I know that I did. John B.

Was that a new Cyclop cue ball, John? Looked like it had just one rather large red spot.
 
It was a new CB. It was a plain white ball with a single spot on it. The spot looked about the same size and shape as the spots on an Aramith measles CB.
 
Correction - All of the DCC events, 9-Ball Banks, 1 Pocket, 9-Ball and BigFoot Challenge were played with Cyclop balls. Cyclop has 2 color sets. And the new cue ball was officially rolled out at Derby.
 
I wasn't a fan of the Cyclop balls. To me they caught way too many skids, an order of magnitude more than other sets. The skids also seem more severe than with other balls. Do not recommend.
 
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Table:
The Diamond Pro/Am Smart table was used.

Pockets: Grade A. The pockets marking the balls issue from years past has been resolved. I did not see any black marks on any of the balls.

Phenolic rail material: Grade D. The dymondwood substitute, the new phenolic material, has some issues. Aesthetically it looks nice. However, when you touch it, it feels almost like you are touching fiberglass that has just been sanded. It sort of gives that itchy feeling. This might be because of the chalk. The surface seems to be slightly porous, and the chalk collects all over the rails. They all ended up being filthy on the tables I was playing on. I've never experienced this on any other table.

Rubber cushions: Grade C: The cushions still bounce way too fast IMO. After a missed short bank shot, I would say to myself, "how in the world did the OB bounce all the way back to the other end of the table?"

Table frame: Grade B: The legs on the Pro/Am model get in the way of my feet. My shoes would routinely hit them. This is because the legs are at the 4 corners of the table. In contrast, a GC or Diamond Professional model has the legs inset from the corners, giving clearance for your feet. I'm 6'3" tall, so this might not be an issue for shorter people.


Ball Storage: Grade C: All the tables had the wire metal racks installed to hold the balls for when playing banks or one hole. They are not an elegant solution, and feel like an afterthought. Also, when playing banks, only 9 balls are used. The other 6 balls had to be thrown under the table to keep them out of the way. I'd like to see this table redesigned to include ball storage like on a GC and the countless other commercial tables in the past 100 years. I also thought the metal rack itself could be improved (if it does not get eliminated entirely). It could have the wires adjusted to make the balls slope away from center. This way, there would be visual separation between the two opponent's scores. The way it is now, only a single wire separates the two sides.


I'm totally shocked that RKC hasn't jumped this thread and kicked you square in the nuts.
 
It was reported in the action room that one guy had 7 skids in a 9 ball match and three were on the same ball. Diamond had a professional study to be done about which color cloth to use but I'm wondering if they used any when designing these balls?
 
It was reported in the action room that one guy had 7 skids in a 9 ball match and three were on the same ball. Diamond had a professional study to be done about which color cloth to use but I'm wondering if they used any when designing these balls?

When did Diamond have anything to do with designing Cyclop balls?
 
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