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Half Ball hit
Thanks for posting the info and links.................
Thanks for posting the info and links.................
Ahhhh.....I doubt them guys ever rode motor-sackles so what could they really know.
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I can see the OB edge... but what I still can't see is the 'contact patch'.
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I can see the OB edge... but what I still can't see is the 'contact patch'.
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I'll play the Duckie's advocate and give a possible reason for his statements. I was given a youtube link that shows Duckie shooting. (thanks Tony) His eyes are 12" to 18" above the table bed and from that perspective it would be hard to see ball overlaps. Since Duckie deigns discussion, it's only an educated guess on my part, but it would help explain his view of the table geometry and not seeing ball overlaps.
Duckie's stance : https://www.youtube.com/user/ducman954
Duckie's stance : https://www.youtube.com/user/ducman954
GoldenFlash
Banned
Support Duckie...!!!
He isn't all that bad....Just lost as a goose and stubborn.
I watched the videos...old Duckie shoots the eyes right off them balls.
Better than anything I can do.
Note to Duckie: I saw you cheat and use a half ball hit....that makes you a traitor to the "League of no half ball hits society". Naughty, naughty.........I'm telling on you to teacher.
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In spite of Duckie's detachment from reality.....I don't see that he should be chased away.
He isn't all that bad....Just lost as a goose and stubborn.
I watched the videos...old Duckie shoots the eyes right off them balls.
Better than anything I can do.
Note to Duckie: I saw you cheat and use a half ball hit....that makes you a traitor to the "League of no half ball hits society". Naughty, naughty.........I'm telling on you to teacher.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKbtwAkM4-0
Apparently, his stop shot involves the cue ball going back a ball.
JC
Coos Cues
I don't want to ruffle anyones feathers or anything, but technically you are correct. That's not a stop shot at all. One of my favourite shots, the stun-draw. The stun-follow is my absolute favourite though.
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I thought Duckie was pranking the forum and I kept waiting for the zinger. With none forthcoming I started wondering HOW? After seeing his stance I'm beginning to see his perspective. A friend of mine played with a tall stance at first but as he got lower over the table he became a better shooter. His stance was still a bit high but he also has neck and back conditions.
With Duckie's aiming style he's concentrated on a point on the cloth in front of the OB not the collision point of the balls. From that perspective there's no incentive to look at ball overlaps and it's irrelevant to his style of play. To look at it would only be a distraction.
I can agree with his point with one addition to the statement. There's no such thing as a half ball hit FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. And for a person that shoots with a low stance they can say, "There's no such thing as a contact patch FROM MY PERSPECTIVE." Different strokes for different folks and different views that can confuse. At least that's my perspective on the matter.
To JBCases: You may want to update your sig and add the addendum 'from his perspective' and make it a truer account of his opinion.
With Duckie's aiming style he's concentrated on a point on the cloth in front of the OB not the collision point of the balls. From that perspective there's no incentive to look at ball overlaps and it's irrelevant to his style of play. To look at it would only be a distraction.
I can agree with his point with one addition to the statement. There's no such thing as a half ball hit FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. And for a person that shoots with a low stance they can say, "There's no such thing as a contact patch FROM MY PERSPECTIVE." Different strokes for different folks and different views that can confuse. At least that's my perspective on the matter.
To JBCases: You may want to update your sig and add the addendum 'from his perspective' and make it a truer account of his opinion.
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I'm blind. I can't even see the ball. How many balls y'all gonna spot me?
I've seen a movie about playing with your sense of smell. No takers here. "That old Hawaiian Eye Kid, sure plays a mean 8 ball". Drum solo.
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No spot. We'll play for 50 Quid..and I'll bring me dog.. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=byo0cA65fiQ .. video at 14:30 thru 21:50
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JC
Coos Cues
Perhaps.. Could be he can't see overlaps or edges because of a tall stance.
It might be he stands tall, so he can see the contact patch that he promotes.
Most of his video shots are very close to the pocket. No exact aim is needed.
I think what he shows in LARGE drawings is correct, but not precise enough.
Your educated guess might be spot on.. Arrows may be good at Boys Clubs.
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I also do not get my head all the way down, thus I don't see that half-ball overlap as in the diagram above. For that reason, I don't think anyone sees it that way exactly, because everyone's eyes will be elevated above the balls to a certain extent. Also, because of the divergence in perspective, the OB will always appear smaller than the CB, and because of the eye elevation, above the CB. The diagram as drawn is a great mental image, but in no way represents what one actually sees unless they trick their minds into it. It's an orthogonal representation which does not take into account distance, nor eye level. So from a short CB/OB distance, the half hit can look like a pretty thin cut, but from 6 diamonds away, can look like a thicker cut than it actually is.
It's probably more accurate to line up the apparent TOP of the CB to the apparent edge of the OB, since the top of the CB can be more accurately seen than the center.