Some of you might remember the thread "Bangerville and an ethics question" It raised some good questions, and definately drew a line in the sand with regards to how some pool players consider things no big deal, while others consider them to be hanging offenses. This is sort of along those lines.
I've read alot on here as well about how many people won't play in a match that they don't consider "fair." In most cases that's a case where they are looking to get weight and not give it, but none the less it's applicable in reverse as well.
So here's the story.. I haven't been out on the town much lately, mostly playing at home when I get the chance, but honestly this cold/flu thing killed me for the last 3 or 4 weeks (prior to a week ago). So last tuesday is literally the first day I've even felt like getting out of bed so on wednesday I decided I was going to go down and play the local tournament at Pacific Que Billiards in Encinitas.
I head down and play in the tournament, and honestly did more drinking then anything. I really didn't play all that well all things considered, but started getting in stroke pretty quick while I was practicing with someone else after I got knocked out. I head to the restroom, and on my way out of the restroom the guys playing on the table nearest were talking about gambling and how they couldn't find a game. Overhearing that I said "Well hey I gamble and I'd be willing to give one of ya a shot." The response was "We were talking about poker etc... etc.." I apollogized and said "I'm sorry I thought you were talking about playing pool" and turned to head back to my beer(s). As I was turning away one of them said "Well we can definately do that too!" Alrighty then...
Now first and foremost these guys don't look like pool players.. Not that a pool player has a certain look, but ya know what I mean. So I walk off to grab my cue and come back and this girl in her 30's is standing next to my table holding a cue and says "What did you have in mind?" I'm not trying to sound sexist here, but honestly I was a little bewildered by the whole situation. I thought I was gonna match up with one of the guys, but here's this girl? (Not saying it doesn't happen or that there aren't girls out there that'd flat hand me my ass... Just saying it's never happened to me before) Well I've never seen her play, and she's never seen me play, and all that I know about her is that she's with these 3 or 4 big guys, and she's holding some Mural Meucci cue, and acting very "cocky" for lack of a better word.
So without skipping a beat I throw out the old "How about a race to 5 for 50?" She hesitated for about a 1/2 second and said "No problem" with a smile on her face. We flipped I broke, I ran.. Game two I broke and got about half way through the rack and played a safe. As soon as she bent over the table is became evidently clear that she's a D player.
So now I'm a little taken back by all of this becuase I'm unsure as to what to do the game isn't a fair game by any means and all I could picture in my head was a crowd of AZ'ers shaking their heads at me in dissaproval. PlynSets.. that bastard.
In my defense though honestly I didn't know who the hell she was, and for all I know she could be some up and coming WPBA star. Even slowing the pace down a bit.... scratch that alot, the score was 5:0 and she didn't make one ball during the entire set. Her boyfriend says the words "Fair is fair" and hands me 50 bucks.
My question to the AZ'ers is what do you do at that point? Do you give them the money back becuase the match wasn't fair? Do you play them again in a match that you deem to be more fair?
I'll tell you what I did, at this point I was drinking pretty steady so I said we should add some weight to this to make it more even. She didn't understand what I meant by saying the 8 ball or the seven or rather the 6 out. So I bought her boyfriend and his buddies a beer and said we need to handicap the game to what you guys think is fair. She brings up playing 8 ball, so I told her the only good way of handicapping 8 ball that i know of is we play a race, and I'll spot her some # of games. I was heading to the restroom and suggested we play a race to three, and when I got back she could tell me how many games she thought was fair. I came back they said spot her one game in a race to three for 20..
DJ
I've read alot on here as well about how many people won't play in a match that they don't consider "fair." In most cases that's a case where they are looking to get weight and not give it, but none the less it's applicable in reverse as well.
So here's the story.. I haven't been out on the town much lately, mostly playing at home when I get the chance, but honestly this cold/flu thing killed me for the last 3 or 4 weeks (prior to a week ago). So last tuesday is literally the first day I've even felt like getting out of bed so on wednesday I decided I was going to go down and play the local tournament at Pacific Que Billiards in Encinitas.
I head down and play in the tournament, and honestly did more drinking then anything. I really didn't play all that well all things considered, but started getting in stroke pretty quick while I was practicing with someone else after I got knocked out. I head to the restroom, and on my way out of the restroom the guys playing on the table nearest were talking about gambling and how they couldn't find a game. Overhearing that I said "Well hey I gamble and I'd be willing to give one of ya a shot." The response was "We were talking about poker etc... etc.." I apollogized and said "I'm sorry I thought you were talking about playing pool" and turned to head back to my beer(s). As I was turning away one of them said "Well we can definately do that too!" Alrighty then...
Now first and foremost these guys don't look like pool players.. Not that a pool player has a certain look, but ya know what I mean. So I walk off to grab my cue and come back and this girl in her 30's is standing next to my table holding a cue and says "What did you have in mind?" I'm not trying to sound sexist here, but honestly I was a little bewildered by the whole situation. I thought I was gonna match up with one of the guys, but here's this girl? (Not saying it doesn't happen or that there aren't girls out there that'd flat hand me my ass... Just saying it's never happened to me before) Well I've never seen her play, and she's never seen me play, and all that I know about her is that she's with these 3 or 4 big guys, and she's holding some Mural Meucci cue, and acting very "cocky" for lack of a better word.
So without skipping a beat I throw out the old "How about a race to 5 for 50?" She hesitated for about a 1/2 second and said "No problem" with a smile on her face. We flipped I broke, I ran.. Game two I broke and got about half way through the rack and played a safe. As soon as she bent over the table is became evidently clear that she's a D player.
So now I'm a little taken back by all of this becuase I'm unsure as to what to do the game isn't a fair game by any means and all I could picture in my head was a crowd of AZ'ers shaking their heads at me in dissaproval. PlynSets.. that bastard.
In my defense though honestly I didn't know who the hell she was, and for all I know she could be some up and coming WPBA star. Even slowing the pace down a bit.... scratch that alot, the score was 5:0 and she didn't make one ball during the entire set. Her boyfriend says the words "Fair is fair" and hands me 50 bucks.
My question to the AZ'ers is what do you do at that point? Do you give them the money back becuase the match wasn't fair? Do you play them again in a match that you deem to be more fair?
I'll tell you what I did, at this point I was drinking pretty steady so I said we should add some weight to this to make it more even. She didn't understand what I meant by saying the 8 ball or the seven or rather the 6 out. So I bought her boyfriend and his buddies a beer and said we need to handicap the game to what you guys think is fair. She brings up playing 8 ball, so I told her the only good way of handicapping 8 ball that i know of is we play a race, and I'll spot her some # of games. I was heading to the restroom and suggested we play a race to three, and when I got back she could tell me how many games she thought was fair. I came back they said spot her one game in a race to three for 20..
DJ
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