Tips for measuring shafts for you resellers

classiccues

classiccues

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Obviously you see what deal killers skinny shafts are so here are a few suggestions...

NEVER measure over the tip with the calipers from the top of the shaft down. If the tip is mushroomed it will skew your measurement.

Measure the ferrule diameter, and down the shaft 6-8"

Until you get the feel for being able to just "touch" the wood, I recommend using a sheet of paper and putting it over the shaft so not to dent the wood. BUT remember to subtract the sheet thickness x 2 (once for each side for those rocket scientists in the audience) :p

If you can't afford a digital, get a dial and if its in inches multiply the number by 25.4

If you have no way of getting some calipers, get a tailors measuring tape that reads 1/128th's and then wrap it around and divide x 3.1415 then multiply it by 25.4 :eek:

If you are incapable of the above, save us all the trouble and stay out of resale. :D

JV
 
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Shouldn't the shaft be measured at the base of the ferrule since ferrules may get tapered with multiple tip replacements??
 
thepavlos said:
Shouldn't the shaft be measured at the base of the ferrule since ferrules may get tapered with multiple tip replacements??
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You could, but if you tried to compensate for every possibility of shaft mishandling or just overall usage, you'll drive yourself crazy. Also I have seen some tip repairman install tips and have to resand alot of shaft, I have tried to simplify it for sake of discussion.

JV
 
classiccues said:
Obviously you see what deal killers skinny shafts are so here are a few suggestions...

NEVER measure over the tip with the calipers from the top of the shaft down. If the tip is mushroomed it will skew your measurement.

Measure the ferrule diameter, and down the shaft 6-8"

Until you get the feel for being able to just "touch" the wood, I recommend using a sheet of paper and putting it over the shaft so not to dent the wood. BUT remember to subtract the sheet thickness x 2 (once for each side for those rocket scientists in the audience) :p

If you can't afford a digital, get a dial and if its in inches multiply the number by 25.4

If you have no way of getting some calipers, get a tailors measuring tape that reads 1/128th's and then wrap it around and divide x 3.1415 then multiply it by 25.4 :eek:

If you are incapable of the above, save us all the trouble and stay out or resale. :D

JV
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isnt this too late? :D
 
Classiccues-Thanks

Of all the years I've been reading the," Cue for Sale", forums, I'm amazed that these guy's selling cue's for thousands of dollars don't, won't or can't mesure their cues. Sclaes and Calipers are very inexpensive.. Thanks for writing this post, maybe the cue guy's will invest a few bucks. Wouldn't hurt !!


Thanks, Tom
 
classiccues said:
If you have no way of getting some calipers, get a tailors measuring tape that reads 1/128th's and then wrap it around and divide x 3.1415 then multiply it by 25.4 :eek:
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Better to multiply by 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884
19716939937510582097494459230781640628
62089986280348253421170679821480865132
82306647093844609550582231725359408128
48111745028410270193852110555964462294
89549303819644288109756659334461284756
48233786783165271201909145648566923460
34861045432664821339360726024914127372
45870066063155881748815209209628292540
91715364367892590360011330530548820466
52138414695194151160943305727036575959
19530921861173819326117931051185480744
62379962749567351885752724891227938183
01194912983367336244065664308602139494
63952247371907021798609437027705392171
76293176752384674818467669405132000568
12714526356082778577134275778960917363
71787214684409012249534301465495853710
50792279689258923542019956112129021960
86403441815981362977477130996051870721
13499999983729780499510597317328160963
18595024459455346908302642522308253344
68503526193118817101000313783875288658
75332083814206171776691473035982534904
28755468731159562863882353787593751957
78185778053217122680661300192787661119
59092164201989
Just to be safe.:D

Really, though. Good advice, Joe.

-Shane
 
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LOL and thanks...

JV

ShaneS said:
Better to multiply by 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884
19716939937510582097494459230781640628
62089986280348253421170679821480865132
82306647093844609550582231725359408128
48111745028410270193852110555964462294
89549303819644288109756659334461284756
48233786783165271201909145648566923460
34861045432664821339360726024914127372
45870066063155881748815209209628292540
91715364367892590360011330530548820466
52138414695194151160943305727036575959
19530921861173819326117931051185480744
62379962749567351885752724891227938183
01194912983367336244065664308602139494
63952247371907021798609437027705392171
76293176752384674818467669405132000568
12714526356082778577134275778960917363
71787214684409012249534301465495853710
50792279689258923542019956112129021960
86403441815981362977477130996051870721
13499999983729780499510597317328160963
18595024459455346908302642522308253344
68503526193118817101000313783875288658
75332083814206171776691473035982534904
28755468731159562863882353787593751957
78185778053217122680661300192787661119
59092164201989
Just to be safe.:D

Really, though. Good advice, Joe.

-Shane
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I went out and bought an electronic digital caliper. Any excuse to buy a new cool tool. :D
 
classiccues said:
Obviously you see what deal killers skinny shafts are so here are a few suggestions...

NEVER measure over the tip with the calipers from the top of the shaft down. If the tip is mushroomed it will skew your measurement.

Measure the ferrule diameter, and down the shaft 6-8"

Until you get the feel for being able to just "touch" the wood, I recommend using a sheet of paper and putting it over the shaft so not to dent the wood. BUT remember to subtract the sheet thickness x 2 (once for each side for those rocket scientists in the audience) :p

If you can't afford a digital, get a dial and if its in inches multiply the number by 25.4

If you have no way of getting some calipers, get a tailors measuring tape that reads 1/128th's and then wrap it around and divide x 3.1415 then multiply it by 25.4 :eek:

If you are incapable of the above, save us all the trouble and stay out of resale. :D

JV
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This is a great post JV. I bought a Bender cue from a well known seller who listed the shafts as 13mm and one of the 2 shafts was 12mm and it was useless to me and when I complained to the seller he said I didn't know what I was talking about and I measured the shaft with a Digital caliper!! Needless to say I got the shaft in more ways than one, but I learned a good lesson from that deal.
 
SCCues said:
This is a great post JV. I bought a Bender cue from a well known seller who listed the shafts as 13mm and one of the 2 shafts was 12mm and it was useless to me and when I complained to the seller he said I didn't know what I was talking about and I measured the shaft with a Digital caliper!! Needless to say I got the shaft in more ways than one, but I learned a good lesson from that deal.
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Thanks.. I have the standard digital US postal scale that you get at staples and a nice starett that I had when I was in engineering. But like I said in the first post, you need to develop a little touch when using them. If you over squeeze you will dent the shaft and ultimately get a bad read.

JV
 
I think ShaneS's suggestion only applies to those laminated shafts with the pie piece shaped segments.
 
Good post Joe, I'm amazed as well by lack of info offered by some sellers. Like you said you do need to develop a touch. I have a SS dial caliper but I massaged the square edges with a diamond file. Still need to be careful and paper would be the safe route for new users.

Rod
 
Rod said:
Good post Joe, I'm amazed as well by lack of info offered by some sellers. Like you said you do need to develop a touch. I have a SS dial caliper but I massaged the square edges with a diamond file. Still need to be careful and paper would be the safe route for new users.

Rod
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How much would be removed from the edges with the file? Guess it wouldn't change the reading by more than a couple 1,000th's?
 
classiccues said:
Thanks.. I have the standard digital US postal scale that you get at staples and a nice starett that I had when I was in engineering.
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Ditto

I still have my 1' Starrett dial with the click knob that I used in school.

I used to be able to read it without help from the two glass circles I put on my nose to read the newspaper. :) :)
 
i bought a credit card sized laminated card with punch-out holes measuring 12mm to 13mm from muellers maybe 5 years ago for a buck. i keep it in my wallet.
 
Here it is ...

larrynj1 said:
i bought a credit card sized laminated card with punch-out holes measuring 12mm to 13mm from muellers maybe 5 years ago for a buck. i keep it in my wallet.
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I ordered the $3.95 6" calipers from Amazon (Grizzly), but here is the card you referred to, and it is on sale for $.95. It increments in .5mm sizes, and anyone who sells, buys, or trades cues should carry one of these or calipers.

go to: http://www.poolndarts.com/p-6119-Tip-Gauge/
 
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