Deuel Stroke/Dr. Cue's Protege/Youtube

I'll tell you what impresses me so much is that Deuel shoots, breaks, jumps with the same cue....and does so quite effectively. Kind of shows that all you need is ONE decent cue and a lot of talent! Corey has used that 314 shaft for years as well as far as I know.
 
Of course Corey shoots and breaks with the same cue! His standard draw stroke is harder than his break shot! Why wouldn't he? I would bet that if he were to start hitting Jeff de Luna level breaks he would definitely start using a break cue.

PS: I use Jeff as an example not because he has the hardest break, but it is awesome, more as a pound for pound comparison.
 
Matt_24 said:
I'll tell you what impresses me so much is that Deuel shoots, breaks, jumps with the same cue....and does so quite effectively. Kind of shows that all you need is ONE decent cue and a lot of talent! Corey has used that 314 shaft for years as well as far as I know.
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Does he ever use a regular, short jump cue? How close to an intervening ball can he jump with his regular full length cue?

Flex
 
I don't know, but I've only ever seen him jump with his regular cue.

Honestly, it seems like players at that level only jump if they feel they can make a ball. Not to jump and play safe. If they're looking to play safe, they'll kick safe. Maybe that should tell the rest of us something? Of course, those are just my thoughts.
 
Matt_24 said:
I don't know, but I've only ever seen him jump with his regular cue.

Honestly, it seems like players at that level only jump if they feel they can make a ball. Not to jump and play safe. If they're looking to play safe, they'll kick safe. Maybe that should tell the rest of us something? Of course, those are just my thoughts.
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There are times when no kick will work, and a jump shot is absolutely the ONLY way to make contact with a required object ball. Sometimes that ball is right near a rail, and is surrounded by other balls. Such a scenario greeted me the other evening in a tournament. I jumped into that cluster, made contact with the right ball, got a rail, and didn't go off the table. Such a shot could only be made by jumping.

What would Earl do in that case? Only one thing if he didn't want to give up ball in hand: jump into the cluster. For that shot, a very weak jump shot was the only possibility. A full length cue would be too powerful.

Flex
 
Matt,
my work PC wont allow me to see YouTube videos, and my home PC is way, WAY too slow to watch. it plays about 2 seconds at a time, then freezes for about 20 seconds, then plays 2 more seconds, then freezes for about 20 seconds, etc, etc.

somebody will have to let me know what it was i was supposed to be viewing here..........

DCP
 
Corey's stroke

Matt_24 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_plsd-1TNNw

Here is a stroke shot for you to practice Dr. Cue's Protege! You'll know it when you see it.

In my opinion, Deuel just has the most powerful stroke in the world.

Enjoy!
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I was at that match between Corey and Mika sitting in the first row and when Corey shot that long draw shot it was amazing. I don't know of another pro who has a stronger stroke than Corey IMO.
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
Matt,
my work PC wont allow me to see YouTube videos, and my home PC is way, WAY too slow to watch. it plays about 2 seconds at a time, then freezes for about 20 seconds, then plays 2 more seconds, then freezes for about 20 seconds, etc, etc.

somebody will have to let me know what it was i was supposed to be viewing here..........

DCP
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It is evidence that Corey can do things you didn't know were possible and that he plays better than ALL OF US.
 
SCCues said:
I was at that match between Corey and Mika sitting in the first row and when Corey shot that long draw shot it was amazing. I don't know of another pro who has a stronger stroke than Corey IMO.
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I would have to put Larry Nevel's stroke right up there with him.

I watched that shot over and over in slow mo, and he hit that ball so hard with so much bottom on it that his shaft bent like a break shot.

The cue ball not catching english right away I bet has something to do with that guy cleaning up between matches and with the new cloth causing the balls to slide a bit before catching. Either way it was a very cool shot. I would almost bet $$ that he had no intentions of that ball bending its angle like that, but he was trying for a two rail "Z" shape shot.
 
PROG8R said:
I would have to put Larry Nevel's stroke right up there with him.

I watched that shot over and over in slow mo, and he hit that ball so hard with so much bottom on it that his shaft bent like a break shot.

The cue ball not catching english right away I bet has something to do with that guy cleaning up between matches and with the new cloth causing the balls to slide a bit before catching. Either way it was a very cool shot. I would almost bet $$ that he had no intentions of that ball bending its angle like that, but he was trying for a two rail "Z" shape shot.
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I and a couple of other players at my local pool hall spent an hour shooting this shot. My average in making the ball and getting shape was 1 in 10. NONE of us ever got the cue ball to BEND like corey did and we too think it has to be new cloth. UJ Puckett, used to bend the cue ball like that and I think it was one new cloth that I saw him do it but it has been a while. :)

It is a great shot and I think Corey does have one of the best strokes in the world although Larry Nevel is no slouch.

Thanks to all who posted those U Tube videos of some of Corey's super stroke shots.

JoeyA
 
SCCues said:
I was at that match between Corey and Mika sitting in the first row and when Corey shot that long draw shot it was amazing. I don't know of another pro who has a stronger stroke than Corey IMO.
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SCCues, WOW! That must have been awsome seeing that shot live. I even felt the electricity in the clip after he nailed that one rail delayed reaction draw shot, from distance! You could still here the buzz in the air long after that play.

i must say i really enjoyed those clips. Corey seems to be a throwback to those one game, one cue days. And why shouldn't it be that way? It's funny, everybody speculates on why it is that Corey soft breaks. You know because that's how you beat the sardo rack, or that he's playing shape for the 1 ball, or hitting them hard enough to spread yet not re-group. When all it may be is that he just dosn't want to abuse his playing tip since he uses his cue for both. Personaly, i think it's a conspirecy by the Pool and Cue Manufacturers to encourage breaking a ton, and hopping over balls with jump cues.

I also love his balls to the wall go for anything approach. He's a pure shot maker, like Earl. When Corey is in stroke expect anything, he sure is fun to watch. St.
 
That shot look incredible. Watching the replay in slow motion the cue ball left the felt and made contact with the object ball off the felt then with so much bottom spin on the ball that after contact with the object ball the spin with table friction kicked in and hence the great shot..
 
JoeyA said:
I and a couple of other players at my local pool hall spent an hour shooting this shot. ...
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What I didn't notice the first time I saw this clip (a couple of months ago) was that the angle is pretty straight, actually. If you want to simulate new cloth to get the action you see in the clip, wax the cue ball or rub it with silicone spray like ArmorAll.

As for DCP: just be patient and wait for the download or get DSL. The shot cannot be easily described.
 
Bob Jewett said:
What I didn't notice the first time I saw this clip (a couple of months ago) was that the angle is pretty straight, actually. If you want to simulate new cloth to get the action you see in the clip, wax the cue ball or rub it with silicone spray like ArmorAll.

As for DCP: just be patient and wait for the download or get DSL. The shot cannot be easily described.
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But it can be diagrammed. I think this is fairly close. I don't remember the exact positions of the balls besides the cue, 4, 5, and 9, but it was a lot like this. The CB keeps its backspin all the way until it comes back out off the side rail, and then makes a dramatic turn back downtable. Incredible stroke.

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Too bad they didn't show Corey shooting the shot.

Is that Matchroom sports again? They suck at showing the players playing. I might as well have been watching a game of Pong for all I saw.

Jeff Livingston
 
chefjeff said:
Too bad they didn't show Corey shooting the shot.

Is that Matchroom sports again? They suck at showing the players playing. I might as well have been watching a game of Pong for all I saw.

Jeff Livingston
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I will have to watch this one again. I would swear I saw him shooting the shot. I think it was kind of an angle from behind him.
 
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