i have a g/f who i need to propose to in the coming days.
ofcourse she'll get the biggest rock ill be able to buy to help
convincing her, so im selling some of my cues off my cuecollection.
here is the first one
the cue is a Hiolle .
very rare and sought antique in excellent condition with 2 perfect shafts
Offer no longer available. its off to ebay
All about hiolle cue's. mine is a Hiolle distributed by Horemans (thats where the inscription comes from, and it looks like the number 18, exept mine has a buttcap in a different wood
some info about the cue and the company
The famous French billiard house Hiolle bears the name of the man who founded it in 1820. Its factory was located in Maranville (Haute-Marne) France, and employed 35 workers before World War I. Several Marillier family members succeeded M. Hiolle and settled their shops in Paris.The factory was taken over by Klein about 1950-60 and closed down in 1982. For more details, see the paper entitled Les Billardiers Hiolle et Klein by Gilles Fourtier, published in the French review Folklore de Champagne, 130, pp.14-25, 1992. Originally, Hiolle cues were made mainly in ebony, Indian rosewood, amaranth, Macassar ebony, bubinga, service tree, hornbeam and maple. They were quite often carved and inlaid with mother-of-pearl and ivory. Hiolles are especially known for their 4 (or more) points .
the cue is 85%-90%.
You can hardly see this cue is almost an era old, exept from some surface scartches and dents, there is nothing i can find wrong.
The cue was purchased from a woman who rescieved it from her grandfather.
Her granfather had used it to win the leuvens kampionshap 3banden ( 3-cussion state championship in belgium)
The cue comes with 2 shafts. Even now people are still searching like crazy for hiolle shafts. The shafts fits the butt perfectly!.
ive testhit some balls with it, and the hit of both shafts is SOLID.
you could use it as a player if you really wanted it, but i think its more a collectionars item. The newer shaft can always been sold seperatly for people who are looking for the old growth shafts for there hiolle.
i could measure all the specs, weight of shaft and but, diameter, balance point, length etc.. but as i guess this will be a collection cue, and guess it doesnt matter. If wanted, i can always provide the info ofcourse.
the cue rolls straight, and it is balanced amazingly. It even feels better then the cue im playig pool with.
now the important part: The logo is PERFECT!!. only a the M at the right is almost gone, but all the rest is perfectly readable. the inscription HOREMANS, is perfectly readable. For a cue this old, the logo is in an amazing shape. (compare it to brunswick logo's on titlist, willie hoppe, etc who are from the same era, who are all beaten up)
like states from an antique website who sells these cue's:
Marks and decals :They are often applied on the front of the cue butt so that, when a cue is frequently used, they gradually deteriorate and sometimes disappear.
This logo is ABOVE the finish, not beneath. this cue has been sitting around in a leather case for over a half century.
the grandfather won this special cue when he won the state championship.
The butt section has:
fullsplice uneven 4 points. ebony into unknown (it dont looks like maple)
8 round ivory inlays in butt-end
ivory joint (i think, i can see a very light grain)
highly crossed carved buttsection.
flat faced wood to wood
shafts1:
ivory joint
unknown (maple?) wooden pin
shaft 2:
aluminium joint, plastic pad
Ebony wooden pin
Total weight: 500gr.
For references ask BHQ. ive traded 10+ cue's with him and my ebay acc is solartje.
Now the price is hard. basically what u get for antiques, is what the market will pay.
Most Hiolle cue's go on ebay for around 200-300$. Thats with one shaft and old logo, this cue is in amazing !!! state and comes with 2 shafts that are in perfect shape
I'm asking 400$ shipping included, for this nicely maintained cue.
Pm if u have any more questions.
ofcourse she'll get the biggest rock ill be able to buy to help
convincing her, so im selling some of my cues off my cuecollection.
here is the first one
the cue is a Hiolle .
very rare and sought antique in excellent condition with 2 perfect shafts
Offer no longer available. its off to ebay
All about hiolle cue's. mine is a Hiolle distributed by Horemans (thats where the inscription comes from, and it looks like the number 18, exept mine has a buttcap in a different wood
some info about the cue and the company
The famous French billiard house Hiolle bears the name of the man who founded it in 1820. Its factory was located in Maranville (Haute-Marne) France, and employed 35 workers before World War I. Several Marillier family members succeeded M. Hiolle and settled their shops in Paris.The factory was taken over by Klein about 1950-60 and closed down in 1982. For more details, see the paper entitled Les Billardiers Hiolle et Klein by Gilles Fourtier, published in the French review Folklore de Champagne, 130, pp.14-25, 1992. Originally, Hiolle cues were made mainly in ebony, Indian rosewood, amaranth, Macassar ebony, bubinga, service tree, hornbeam and maple. They were quite often carved and inlaid with mother-of-pearl and ivory. Hiolles are especially known for their 4 (or more) points .
the cue is 85%-90%.
You can hardly see this cue is almost an era old, exept from some surface scartches and dents, there is nothing i can find wrong.
The cue was purchased from a woman who rescieved it from her grandfather.
Her granfather had used it to win the leuvens kampionshap 3banden ( 3-cussion state championship in belgium)
The cue comes with 2 shafts. Even now people are still searching like crazy for hiolle shafts. The shafts fits the butt perfectly!.
ive testhit some balls with it, and the hit of both shafts is SOLID.
you could use it as a player if you really wanted it, but i think its more a collectionars item. The newer shaft can always been sold seperatly for people who are looking for the old growth shafts for there hiolle.
i could measure all the specs, weight of shaft and but, diameter, balance point, length etc.. but as i guess this will be a collection cue, and guess it doesnt matter. If wanted, i can always provide the info ofcourse.
the cue rolls straight, and it is balanced amazingly. It even feels better then the cue im playig pool with.
now the important part: The logo is PERFECT!!. only a the M at the right is almost gone, but all the rest is perfectly readable. the inscription HOREMANS, is perfectly readable. For a cue this old, the logo is in an amazing shape. (compare it to brunswick logo's on titlist, willie hoppe, etc who are from the same era, who are all beaten up)
like states from an antique website who sells these cue's:
Marks and decals :They are often applied on the front of the cue butt so that, when a cue is frequently used, they gradually deteriorate and sometimes disappear.
This logo is ABOVE the finish, not beneath. this cue has been sitting around in a leather case for over a half century.
the grandfather won this special cue when he won the state championship.
The butt section has:
fullsplice uneven 4 points. ebony into unknown (it dont looks like maple)
8 round ivory inlays in butt-end
ivory joint (i think, i can see a very light grain)
highly crossed carved buttsection.
flat faced wood to wood
shafts1:
ivory joint
unknown (maple?) wooden pin
shaft 2:
aluminium joint, plastic pad
Ebony wooden pin
Total weight: 500gr.
For references ask BHQ. ive traded 10+ cue's with him and my ebay acc is solartje.
Now the price is hard. basically what u get for antiques, is what the market will pay.
Most Hiolle cue's go on ebay for around 200-300$. Thats with one shaft and old logo, this cue is in amazing !!! state and comes with 2 shafts that are in perfect shape
I'm asking 400$ shipping included, for this nicely maintained cue.
Pm if u have any more questions.
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Good Luck.............Charlie D
