He needs 1 you need two, what do you do? (he has the pocket with all them balls by it 
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1Pocket: what would you do?
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if I can't see the 8, I'm just going to lag a kick towards the inside of the 8 (his side) If I brush it fine , if not I want to leave the cb on the short rail. A good out come would be to skim the 8 and roll up under the 4. If it's a faster table, hitting the 8 full may get them both tied up above his pocketYou could probably get the same out come with some masse around the pocket hook but I like the kick better.
If I can see the 8, lot's of high left on the inside of the 8 under the cb should end up under the 4.
I've only been playing one pocket for a year so we'll see how this stands up
If I can see the 8, lot's of high left on the inside of the 8 under the cb should end up under the 4.
I've only been playing one pocket for a year so we'll see how this stands up
I would try to hit the 4 ball at a slow speed and hope to get a good roll,if i dont hit it i might end up not leaving him a shot and the cue ball by his hole and spot a ball. 
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DawgAndy said:if I can't see the 8, I'm just going to lag a kick towards the inside of the 8 (his side) If I brush it fine , if not I want to leave the cb on the short rail. A good out come would be to skim the 8 and roll up under the 4. You could probably get the same out come with some masse around the pocket hook but I like the kick better.
If I can see the 8, lot's of high left on the inside of the 8 under the cb should end up under the 4.
I've only been playing one pocket for a year so we'll see how this stands up
You absolutely cannot see the 8-ball.
Your answer wasn't horrible, you chose a simple way to get out of immediate harm -- but the only problem with your simple way of getting out of harm is this; you're taking a scratch.
I know you said you might brush the 8, but look at that kick again, if you did brush the 8 kicking at it one rail I'm going to say you'll be favored to scratch -- you can get real lucky, hit the 8 and not scratch, but then you're also probably going to be leaving a bank on the 8 if it pops up a little bit after the hit....... and if you're coming that close to hitting the 8 in that direction you might just run right into the face of the 8, or hit it on the right side but have a double kiss that puts the cue infront of the 8 for an easy out.
There is a better solution.
Only problem is he could do the same thing back,foul for foul and then you lose the game on 3.asn130 said:
Fast Lenny said:I would try to hit the 4 ball at a slow speed and hope to get a good roll,if i dont hit it i might end up not leaving him a shot and the cue ball by his hole and spot a ball.
Alot of the same issues with the last comment. It's very easy to hit the wrong side of the 4, or even hit where you want to hit and double-kiss and leave a super-easy out. You can scratch if you hit it with anything more than enough speed to just touch the 4 which is really hard to gage.
The only thing I like more about this shot (I would still never shoot it) than the other one is you're giving yourself more of a chance to not owe a ball, because you're actually trying to hit something here.
There is a better shot.
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I like to see the creativity in this shot. As Fast Lenny pointed out you can be putting yourself in trouble with a 3-foul rule - and even if you aren't playing 3-foul (a lot of gambling matches have no 3-foul) you still probably wont like it unless you're playing a weaker player. In that case it wouldn't bad to get into a scratch fest and both of you spot up 4 balls or so.
I probably wouldn't shoot this shot unless he needed 1, I needed 2, he was a weaker player, and MY pocket was the one with the balls in front of it (cue ball in the same spot)... and no 3-foul..
It's a good answer, and a lot of times will be a good solution, but I don't really like it here under most circumstances.
Here's the shot;
load up the inside (left) and fire at will. Looks crazy, I know, but the speed is easy to control, just hit it hard, good luck over-shooting it. If you hit it decent you're going to hit the 8 or just lay inside the box where you didn't sell out a shot, but you did scratch... you're giving yourself the best opportunity here.
load up the inside (left) and fire at will. Looks crazy, I know, but the speed is easy to control, just hit it hard, good luck over-shooting it. If you hit it decent you're going to hit the 8 or just lay inside the box where you didn't sell out a shot, but you did scratch... you're giving yourself the best opportunity here.
Well the only other shot i can think of is to foul by going one rail and leaving the cue ball by his pocket between the 4 and the 8,i will practice this tommorow to see if i can do it,ill try it 10 times and see how many times i sell out,i think if i have the speed down i can do it 8 out of 10 times,yes i will be spotting a ball but should not leave him anything spectacular.AZE said:
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I wouldnt shoot this with a gun to my head,but it is creative,your speed has to be really good on this shot and the margin for error is greater it seems then the other shots suggested,just my opinion, lets see what some of the advanced one holers say.AZE said:
I play a lot of partner one pocket, if my buddy sees me loading up for that shot, I should be able to hear him reaching into his pocket and getting out a ten. If I pull it off I'm a hero, if not I'm just another punk
I'll play with this Saturday and get back to you, thanks for the post
I think me and Fast Lenny must be on the page
I'll play with this Saturday and get back to you, thanks for the post
I think me and Fast Lenny must be on the page
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Fast Lenny said:I wouldnt shoot this with a gun to my head,but it is creative,your speed has to be really good on this shot and the margin for error is greater it seems then the other shots suggested,just my opinion, lets see what some of the advanced one holers say.
Speed is easy to control, just hit it real hard. You ever try to kick 8-rails? The cue-ball eventually dies, lol.
Seriously, this shot is insanely easy. If you hit it half-way decent the only gamble you're taking is if you will hit the 8 or not, if you don't hit it you'll land behind it, and if you do hit it it's going to be just enough to tap it and not sell out a bank most of the time.
I didn't come up with this shot on my own - I'm not a great player - but I did learn this from someone who plays pretty damn good one-pocket. And trust me, I know what good pool playing is.
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Most likely if we try any of the shots mentioned we might foul,i would think fouling one rail and perhaps 2 rails by going near his pocket either after the 4 ball or after the 8 ball with low speed will leave you within the square you need to be in and with lower risk.Its very interesting and i will give it a shot tommorow and see how i make out,something to do when im getting bored with practice.AZE said:
Try it. When the player showed me this shot I thought it was difficult, the first time I tried it I hit it too soft and didn't get the 6th rail, but the 2nd time I tried it, and every time since then I've hit it good. I touch the 8 a lot, and I've yet to sell out when setting it up.
I understand your logic, but I'm telling you, this shot is better. I've already explained why.
Not saying this is the BEST shot for sure, but it's better than all the other ones mentioned, I'm hopeing someone with some good knowledge can come in here and show me an even better solution, but this one really is very good.
I understand your logic, but I'm telling you, this shot is better. I've already explained why.
Not saying this is the BEST shot for sure, but it's better than all the other ones mentioned, I'm hopeing someone with some good knowledge can come in here and show me an even better solution, but this one really is very good.
I like the one rail kick. skim the 8 and leave the rock as close to his pocket as possible. if I make it I probably win if I miss I likely lose. there is nothing more excilerating than risking it all.
Is he playing to win or playing not to lose? that tells you all you need to know about your opponent. if he's playing to win you have to fight to win first. If he's playing not to lose then all you have to do is wait him out.
Is he playing to win or playing not to lose? that tells you all you need to know about your opponent. if he's playing to win you have to fight to win first. If he's playing not to lose then all you have to do is wait him out.
for me at least a soft one rail kick is far more reliable than an unpracticed 6 rail around the world shot. if this shot comes up in a match as in the scenario you mentioned.. I'm going with a shot I can reliably make. I practice one rail kicks daily. 6 rail around the world need it once in a thousand games shots, I don't practice those so much.
just playing my game
just playing my game
AZE said:He needs 1 you need two, what do you do? (he has the pocket with all them balls by it
I will trade 1 scratch each and bring the score to 6:5 first. The I will try another intentional scratch like either one of these (2 pages.) Aim to leave the CB in the red zone:
Another ball comes up. The new score is 6:4. The layout look something like page 3.
Fun layout!