I started talking to Bob in the middle of May of 2007 on a sneaky pete..Bob quoted me a price of 375.00 for a conversion with 2 shafts.....I had a couple of buddies that were also interested so I asked Bob if there would be a break in price if I was to order 3 cues...His exact reply was 350.00 each under 2 conditions....the 1st condition was that I had to send him half down on the order...that sounded reasonable considering he was giving us 25.00 off per cue, and the 2nd condition was that I didn't tell anybody what I payed for the cues, again a simple request that I had no problem with. Well Bob quoted me a delivery time of 3 months once he received my down payment....I sent Bob a down payment of 525.00 (3 x 350.00 is 1050.00 half of course is 525.00 the balance of 525.00 + shipping would be paid on completion ) via usps on 6/01/07....I sent Bob an email about 5 days later asking if he had received my down payment....Bob replied back that he recieved it and would start on the cues right away....the funds cleared my account on 6/15/07. I figured great we should have 3 sneakies in 3 months....well we stay in contact about once a month from the time of order.....I called Bob on the end of the 3rd month (end of august) for a follow up on the cues.....they are not ready.......so another month goes by, no cues..I was patient knowing that Bob is sick....so I made another call in 30 days ( end of September ) still not ready...so this goes on until November and I ask Bob if he would send me some pics of the cues so I could keep the other partys happy (keep in mind it has been 5 months since the order was placed ) Bob sent me some pics in November of un completed cues, but atleast we knew that they were being worked on..
So this goes on until 1/01/08 I send Bob an email asking for an update on the cues....this is his exact reply and I quote " send the cash the cues are 7 to 10 days from being done. THANKS BOB ". I thought this reply was quite strange considering 3 months late on delivery...anyways I let the other parties know whats going on and that we need to send the balance owed. The other parties had read a thread about Bob and were concerned so they wanted to see the cues completed....Bob flips out because we wanted pics on completetion....he stated that we had trust issues and just rips into me like a child ( I didnt think it was right of him to rip into me beings that he was late on his commitment )...heres the thread that concerned the other parties.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=75626&highlight=madison
So I gave it 3 weeks called them back and Darlena Bob's wife said they would send me pics of the cue's on completion....she also stated that they lost the paper work on my deal and if I would email them a copy of the down payment...( again strange business practices)...well I told her I sent them 525.00 on 6/01/07 which was 50% down and the balanced owed was 525.00 + shipping well she wanted a copy of my check because they obviously didnt trust me....
. So I emailed them a receipt copy of my check no problem.... So she states that she needs to talk to Bob and see if he remembers what he quoted me and call me back.....well I didnt get a phone call, but they did send me an email on 2/04/07 telling me they found my quote and the price quoted to me was 375.00 a cue heres the email......
DALE
MY RECORDS INDICATE $375.00 PER CUE AND A $20.00 SHIPPING FEE WHEN YOU TOLD ME BOB SAID $350.00 A CUE WITH 2 SHAFTS I NEW BETTER WE HAVE NEVER SOLD A SNEAKY PETE WITH 2 SHAFTS FOR $350.00 TO ANY ONE NOT EVEN DAVID HUGHES MY RECORDS EVEN SHOW HE QUOTED YOU $375.00 PER CUE WITH 2 SHAFTS AND A $20.00 SHIPPING CHARGE I WAS THE ONE WHO RECEIVED THE DOWN PAYMENT WHEN IT CAME IN AND I TOLD BOB THAT HALF SHOULD HAVE BEEN $562.50 BUT YOU ONLY SENT $525.00 SO THE TOTAL BALANCE DUE IS $620.00 AND SHIPPING IS INCLUDED IN THE REMAINING BALANCE. ALSO DALE I WOULD PREFER A MONEY ORDER.
THANK YOU DARLENA
So at this point I'm not happy....its 2/04/08 its been 7 months since I ordered the cues....Bob rips my ass because I wanted pictures and they are trying to get and extra 75.00 ....at this point I'm done I'm not used to doing business like this...I tell them keep the cues and send me my deposit back...no hard feelings lets just forget the whole deal...They flip out again, but tell me they will send me my deposit in one week...guess what no deposit.....so I make several phone calls and no answer....so I figured I'll email them......I sent them an email on 2/20/08 agreeing to take 2 of the cues at 375.00 a piece + shipping cod.....I have received no reply nor will they answer their phone......I could use some advice in this situation....
Thanks Dale
So this goes on until 1/01/08 I send Bob an email asking for an update on the cues....this is his exact reply and I quote " send the cash the cues are 7 to 10 days from being done. THANKS BOB ". I thought this reply was quite strange considering 3 months late on delivery...anyways I let the other parties know whats going on and that we need to send the balance owed. The other parties had read a thread about Bob and were concerned so they wanted to see the cues completed....Bob flips out because we wanted pics on completetion....he stated that we had trust issues and just rips into me like a child ( I didnt think it was right of him to rip into me beings that he was late on his commitment )...heres the thread that concerned the other parties.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=75626&highlight=madison
So I gave it 3 weeks called them back and Darlena Bob's wife said they would send me pics of the cue's on completion....she also stated that they lost the paper work on my deal and if I would email them a copy of the down payment...( again strange business practices)...well I told her I sent them 525.00 on 6/01/07 which was 50% down and the balanced owed was 525.00 + shipping well she wanted a copy of my check because they obviously didnt trust me....
. So I emailed them a receipt copy of my check no problem.... So she states that she needs to talk to Bob and see if he remembers what he quoted me and call me back.....well I didnt get a phone call, but they did send me an email on 2/04/07 telling me they found my quote and the price quoted to me was 375.00 a cue heres the email......DALE
MY RECORDS INDICATE $375.00 PER CUE AND A $20.00 SHIPPING FEE WHEN YOU TOLD ME BOB SAID $350.00 A CUE WITH 2 SHAFTS I NEW BETTER WE HAVE NEVER SOLD A SNEAKY PETE WITH 2 SHAFTS FOR $350.00 TO ANY ONE NOT EVEN DAVID HUGHES MY RECORDS EVEN SHOW HE QUOTED YOU $375.00 PER CUE WITH 2 SHAFTS AND A $20.00 SHIPPING CHARGE I WAS THE ONE WHO RECEIVED THE DOWN PAYMENT WHEN IT CAME IN AND I TOLD BOB THAT HALF SHOULD HAVE BEEN $562.50 BUT YOU ONLY SENT $525.00 SO THE TOTAL BALANCE DUE IS $620.00 AND SHIPPING IS INCLUDED IN THE REMAINING BALANCE. ALSO DALE I WOULD PREFER A MONEY ORDER.
THANK YOU DARLENA
So at this point I'm not happy....its 2/04/08 its been 7 months since I ordered the cues....Bob rips my ass because I wanted pictures and they are trying to get and extra 75.00 ....at this point I'm done I'm not used to doing business like this...I tell them keep the cues and send me my deposit back...no hard feelings lets just forget the whole deal...They flip out again, but tell me they will send me my deposit in one week...guess what no deposit.....so I make several phone calls and no answer....so I figured I'll email them......I sent them an email on 2/20/08 agreeing to take 2 of the cues at 375.00 a piece + shipping cod.....I have received no reply nor will they answer their phone......I could use some advice in this situation....
Thanks Dale
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