The cost of a Custom Cue

Prescription medication is way over priced also, but the AMA is holding their gun to our heads.

A pill these size of a Kidney Beads or smaller, 15 Bucks?
 
Arnot Wadsworth said:
I was thinking about the cost per hour of a custom cue.

If a player were to purchase a custom cue for $1000.00 and were
to use this cue for only 4 hours a week over a period of 10 years,
the cost per hour comes to only only $.48 cents per.

Now consider if this same person were to go out to dinner only
once per week and it were to cost him $30.00 and it took 2 hours
to eat the cost per hour comes to $15.00 hour.

To drive your car at 70 miles per hour for one hour and your car
gets 20 miles to the gallon, and gas cost $4.00 per gallon it
cost you over $7.00 per hour to drive.

If you were to go the movies and buy a Coke and Pop Corn and
the movie last for 2 hours...............

Personally I think a custom cue is a darn good value.


you forgot to mention at the end of all that you have nothing to show for it. after the gas is gone it's gone when the movie's over it's over the cue you buy'll be around for years. i have one that's running on 5 years
 
Arnot, good point and there would always be some kind of resale value if the cue was cared for. Besides, why not have some fun in this life and enjoy playing pool with a cue that we like? Like with other posessions, there is a certain pride of ownership factor of a cue that has desirable attributes (plays good, nice quality shafts, attractive woods or wrap, overall design, widely respected maker, etc.).

Martin



Arnot Wadsworth said:
I was thinking about the cost per hour of a custom cue.

If a player were to purchase a custom cue for $1000.00 and were
to use this cue for only 4 hours a week over a period of 10 years,
the cost per hour comes to only only $.48 cents per.

Now consider if this same person were to go out to dinner only
once per week and it were to cost him $30.00 and it took 2 hours
to eat the cost per hour comes to $15.00 hour.

To drive your car at 70 miles per hour for one hour and your car
gets 20 miles to the gallon, and gas cost $4.00 per gallon it
cost you over $7.00 per hour to drive.

If you were to go the movies and buy a Coke and Pop Corn and
the movie last for 2 hours...............

Personally I think a custom cue is a darn good value.
 
jazznpool said:
Arnot, good point and there would always be some kind of resale value if the cue was cared for. Besides, why not have some fun in this life and enjoy playing pool with a cue that we like? Like with other posessions, there is a certain pride of ownership factor of a cue that has desirable attributes (plays good, nice quality shafts, attractive woods or wrap, overall design, widely respected maker, etc.).

Martin
You are correct sir. 2THUMBS UP..:)
 
Arnot Wadsworth said:
I was thinking about the cost per hour of a custom cue.

If a player were to purchase a custom cue for $1000.00 and were
to use this cue for only 4 hours a week over a period of 10 years,
the cost per hour comes to only only $.48 cents per.

Where can I play pool, free of charge?
 
Buy a home table along with your new custom cue and figure about $1.50/HR cost to play for the next 10 years.
 
CocoboloCowboy said:
Prescription medication is way over priced also, but the AMA is holding their gun to our heads.

A pill these size of a Kidney Beads or smaller, 15 Bucks?


Tell me about it. I pay well over 200 a month for prescriptions.
 
Arnot Wadsworth said:
I was not speaking to the price of pool per hour. That costs the same whether you use a house cue or a custom cue. It is still $.048 per hour to use the custom cue.

I'm sorry to say, but are you really that stupid? If you are not playing with a custom cue, were do you use a custom cue for? To hit someone with it?

You have no idea what you are talking about. You are comparing the wrong things.

If you want to say it right, you are not using a custom cue, you are investing in a custom cue. Driving a car, going to diner, watching moving, that are doing/consuming/'using' things. In other words, paying for a custom cue is not an activity. Paying to eat diner, paying for driving, paying to watch movie is an activity. To say it even clearlier, you can sell the custom cue after using it. But you can't sell the diner after eating it, driving after driving it, showing movie after watching it.

If you want a good comparing, you would say, 'buying a car is like $50.000' etc. not comparing to 'driving a car'.
 
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If you enjoy playing and enjoy cues money should not matter one bit.
If theres something i enjoy ill buy it. As long i as can afford it.
 
one problem is certain cuemakers cues do not hold their value at all.you can buy a $1500 from so and so cuemaker and try and sell it the next day for $800 and you can't sell.

people have no interest in owning one of so and so's cues and buying one new is a very bad proposition.you will have a tough time getting 30-40 cents on the dollar.i am not going to name any names,but most collectors will know.
 
WesleyW said:
I'm sorry to say, but are you really that stupid? If you are not playing with a custom cue, were do you use a custom cue for? To hit someone with it?

You have no idea what you are talking about. You are comparing the wrong things.

If you want to say it right, you are not using a custom cue, you are investing in a custom cue. Driving a car, going to diner, watching moving, that are doing/consuming/'using' things. In other words, paying for a custom cue is not an activity. Paying to eat diner, paying for driving, paying to watch movie is an activity. To say it even clearlier, you can sell the custom cue after using it. But you can't sell the diner after eating it, driving after driving it, showing movie after watching it.

If you want a good comparing, you would say, 'buying a car is like $50.000' etc. not comparing to 'driving a car'.

I guess I am really that stupid as well, so I am going to join in and talk about something I have no idea what I am talking about either.

If the cost of playing pool somewhere is $2.50 an hour, and someone plays there using a house cue for 5 years, 200 hours a year, that is a total of 1000 hours. If instead at the beginning of those 5 years, someone bought a custom cue for $500, there is nothing wrong with looking at it from the perspective of amortizing the cost over the 1000 hours, which was 50 cents an hour, or a total of $3.00 an hour to play pool. All that person has to ask himself is if he is willing to pay $2.50 an hour to play pool with a house cue, is he willing and would he enjoy the experience more to pay $3.00 an hour to play with his own cue.

If the pool hall down the street has much better house cues, tables are the same, but it is $3.00 an hour there, and some people who do not own their own cue go there isntead because the house cues are better, why is this not a fair way to look at the cost of a cue's use over time?

Comparing the usage cost of a cue to some of the other things Arnot referenced may be somewhat apples and oranges, but to ask him if he is really that stupid and to tell him he has no clue what he is talking about is very rude and shortsighted on your part. Many people look at the cost per usage of something to decide if it is a good value for them. When I bought my lathe, I also bought an engine hoist. I looked at how many times I expected to need it in the next few years, and looked at the up front purchase cost to figure out how much my cost was per usage. I then looked at the cost per rental of an engine hoist to see how good of a value it was for me to buy it up front. Since some pool halls charge a dollar to rent a stick, there certainly is a reason for people who frequent those pool halls to evaluate the value of a cue purchase in the way Arnot did.

Or maybe I didn't make it "clearlier" enough for you?

Kelly
 
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Arnot Wadsworth said:
I was thinking about the cost per hour of a custom cue.

If a player were to purchase a custom cue for $1000.00 and were
to use this cue for only 4 hours a week over a period of 10 years,
the cost per hour comes to only only $.48 cents per.

Now consider if this same person were to go out to dinner only
once per week and it were to cost him $30.00 and it took 2 hours
to eat the cost per hour comes to $15.00 hour.

To drive your car at 70 miles per hour for one hour and your car
gets 20 miles to the gallon, and gas cost $4.00 per gallon it
cost you over $7.00 per hour to drive.

If you were to go the movies and buy a Coke and Pop Corn and
the movie last for 2 hours...............

Personally I think a custom cue is a darn good value.

Yes I agree with you if you look at it in that perspective....

However, you are NOT spending a 1000.00 all at once for food, gas and movies that is an avg. over time and cannot be compared to a lump sum out of pocket investment !!!

So mabey if cues were financed and the cost of some definitely could be, then that would be greatly benficial and then everyone could afford a 1000.00+ for a cue !!!

But for those of us who don't have a thousand dollars to spend all at once on a cue thinks thats kind of pricey for a piece of wood with a leather tip glued on the end of it and will definitely seek other AVAILABLE options to accommodate our budgets ...

No offense to you, just making a general point regarding your general statement!


Sincerely, Eddie Wheat
 
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WheatCues said:
Yes I agree with you if you look at it in that perspective....

However, you are NOT spending a 1000.00 all at once for food, gas and movies that is an avg. over time and cannot be compared to a lump sum out of pocket investment !!!

So mabey if cues were financed and the cost of some definitely could be, then that would be greatly benficial and then everyone could afford a 1000.00+ for a cue !!!

But for those of us who don't have a thousand dollars to spend all at once on a cue thinks thats kind of pricey for a piece of wood with a leather tip glued on the end of it and will definitely seek other AVAILABLE options to accommodate our budgets ...

No offense to you, just making a general point regarding your general statement!


Sincerely, Eddie Wheat

You are dummer than a door nail.
 
Arnot Wadsworth said:
I was thinking about the cost per hour of a custom cue.

If a player were to purchase a custom cue for $1000.00 and were
to use this cue for only 4 hours a week over a period of 10 years,
the cost per hour comes to only only $.48 cents per.

Now consider if this same person were to go out to dinner only
once per week and it were to cost him $30.00 and it took 2 hours
to eat the cost per hour comes to $15.00 hour.

To drive your car at 70 miles per hour for one hour and your car
gets 20 miles to the gallon, and gas cost $4.00 per gallon it
cost you over $7.00 per hour to drive.

If you were to go the movies and buy a Coke and Pop Corn and
the movie last for 2 hours...............

Personally I think a custom cue is a darn good value.

I'm as dumb as a door nail too. But I am still willing to pay you a 1.92 a week every week for 10 years if you will sell me a cue for 1000 dollars. Post or send me pictures of the cues I have to choose from.

Thanks
 
Kevin Lindstrom said:
I am smart enough to know that dumber is spelled with a d in it rather than with a double m.

Priceless .... "Dumder" ??? :p

By the Arnot method my cue costs about $0.072 per hour, so I'm way ahead by NOT having a $1000 cue. That makes me "sharp as a tack Barney" :D (and yes, still a cheapass)

Dave
 
DaveK said:
Priceless .... "Dumder" ??? :p

By the Arnot method my cue costs about $0.072 per hour, so I'm way ahead by NOT having a $1000 cue. That makes me "sharp as a tack Barney" :D (and yes, still a cheapass)

Dave

you got me, my face is bright red now.

I actually like Arnot's logic on the custom cues and the pricing justification process. I too am somewhat of a cheap ass at times but at the same time own a number of cues over 1000 dollars. I think cue investment even in one good cues is WELL worth the money.

Hell I have spent probably a couple of thousand dollars on golf clubs to which I have not really ever kept any of them more than a couple of years. Most good cues can be kept a lifetime and still bring as much or more enjoyment to the owner the longer they are kept.

I hope the cue market comes back to full strength ASAP as I admire and respect any cuemaker and their art.

Kevin
 
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