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allen_jr
08-10-2008, 11:12 AM
Ok, I have been very excited about this for a while, and it is not completely worked out yet, but it will be happening soon...

Maybe you guys can provide some feedback... I think you'll like it, check out the link:

http://www.milliondollar9ball.com/mdl_league.html

http://www.milliondollar9ball.com/images/mdl_logo.jpg

Here are the basics of it, discuss :)

Introducing
ALLEN HOPKINS'
MILLION DOLLAR POOL LEAGUE

COMING SOON! COMING SOON! COMING SOON!


We have created the Ultimate Tournament, now we have created the ultimate way to win your way into it!

Our league format is simple to follow and will give everyday players - of all skill levels - the chance to win their way into our Million Dollar Shootouts for as little as $8 bucks a week!

Once our system is up and running, players will be able to win an entry into our Million Dollar Shootouts every 11 weeks, which will guarantee a minimum $1000 payout. Win an entry for only $88. Players will have the opportunity to play every week on a team, at the end of 11 weeks, the top 4 teams will split apart and play a handicapped 32 man tournament, and the winning player(s) will earn an entry into our event! Plus, using our new easy to follow handicapping system, players of various skill levels will have the opportunity to compete.

Created by players, for players
We are providing this very basic and limited information for you to review. We want the players to be happy, and we want to provide a fair chance and opportunity for players to win! Some of the basic concepts of our plan are outlined below, please feel free to email us and provide some feedback, we would love to hear your thoughts... More details and information will be coming soon...

Some basic concepts:

* 8 players on a team roster
* 5 players play on "Game Night" - once a week (could be more as league grows)
Players pay $8 each on Game Night
Small annual fee
* Players are GUARANTEED to play a designated number of games on Game Night
Guaranteed number of games varies based on competitor skill levels - minimum 4 games guaranteed
* Skill Levels easy to understand, no complex counting systems
* Skill Level rise or decline easy to follow
No more wondering why "Johnny Pro" is ranked at a certain Skill Level
* 11 Week Sessions
* Can be started anywhere and everywhere... once you have at least 20 teams in a region, 1 person can win an entry into the Shootout!
* Opportunity for League Operators in new markets and a new league environment
* At the end of 11 weeks, the top 4 teams will earn their way into a local Million Dollar Satellite
4 Teams of 8 players = 32 man tourney
Once a Region has 20 teams playing weekly, 1 person can earn entry every 11 weeks
1 Satellite Entry/20 teams\
Any "odd" number of teams = cash payouts for 2nd, 3rd, 4th place finishers
* Non competitive with established league systems
We are providing a fun and competitive way for players to win entry into our events, thats all!
* The more teams = more Entry Winners!
As the league grows, so do the amount of Satellite Entry Winners every 11 weeks! Cash payouts too...


This is a great opportunity for players to get involved!
Being involved in leagues is fun and rewarding! This league will provide quick and easy to follow results. The goal is to provide a quick, fun, and easy way for players to win their way into our Million Dollar Shootout events! we will need league operators on a local level, and being a league operator can be a profitable venture.

More information will be coming soon! This is just a rough idea of our plan, available here for your consideration. If you have any ideas or suggestions, please feel free to let us know,. If you would like to be contacted in regards to becoming a league operator in your area, please click here to send us an email and let us know. Be sure to include some contact info and tell us what part of the country/world you are in!

fasteddienc
08-10-2008, 05:31 PM
Just a few questions/comments about the league:

1. I was wondering how it will be non-competitive with other leagues. At this time BCA and APA are dominant in many poolrooms as most either have one or the other. In fact in most cases it is very hard for a league operator of BCA to start up leagues in rooms that already have APA leagues. Most rooms favor a league that is already in place and do not wish to experiment with other leagues when they already have one that fills their room with players every night.

2. It also seems that the sole purpose of your league is to fill slots in a major tourney. This major tourney will be filled with pro and amateur players?? Most league players have the mentality that they want a chance to win and with the handicapped system of league play this offers them a chance. However, if the purpose is to win entry into another tourney where they feel they have no chance then it will not be of interest to them.

Most league players just want a social night out to drink and compete as a team. Most do not even know about the APA singles program or even care to compete as individuals. They will not even come out and play handicapped events only for APA players. Sad but true!!


I'm not knocking your program, but I feel that league players are quirky and their motivation for playing is not to enter big time tournaments. I will be following the release of future information and hope you have great success.

allen_jr
08-11-2008, 06:10 PM
Just a few questions/comments about the league:

1. I was wondering how it will be non-competitive with other leagues. At this time BCA and APA are dominant in many poolrooms as most either have one or the other. In fact in most cases it is very hard for a league operator of BCA to start up leagues in rooms that already have APA leagues. Most rooms favor a league that is already in place and do not wish to experiment with other leagues when they already have one that fills their room with players every night.

OK, I guess it is competitive in the fact that its a league, however, we are not trying to create a league that has its own National Champion per se. We are trying to provide a way for players who may be interested in playing in out Million Dollar Shootout an easier way to get involved. Perhaps if the Shootout itself is handicapped in a way to help Satellite winners advance, that might help...

And by introducing a handicapped method of earning entry, we may modify the format to a make the main event handicapped as well... players who satellite into the event via league structure events may be given a few games on the wire against the top pros.... just an idea, but I think it will work. OR, satellite winners will play the 1st round or 2 without any pros in the mix, so they can get deeper into the money before coming up against a pro. If the league could satellite (yes, I am using 'satellite' as a verb occasionally, sorry for confusion) 100 players into the event, then pros will definitely ante up $5k to play, since the money from satellite players is like added money (like $5K each). However, in the 25 game matches, how about if the weak league players were given like 5-8 games on the wire (depending on Skill Level)? Now its a challenge for the pro, and a good amateur could win... These are all just open-thought ideas here, this isn't official

Anyhow, I think twists like that will make this event more enticing to everyone. If certain pros don't want to give unknown amateurs some games on the wire in a 25 game match, then they don't have to play. There will be enough amateurs playing to create a nice prize pool.. The $500,000 overlay that satellite winners are providing will justify a pro buying in directly, and I am confident that players who consider themselves top professionals won't back down.


2. It also seems that the sole purpose of your league is to fill slots in a major tourney. This major tourney will be filled with pro and amateur players?? Most league players have the mentality that they want a chance to win and with the handicapped system of league play this offers them a chance. However, if the purpose is to win entry into another tourney where they feel they have no chance then it will not be of interest to them.

Most league players just want a social night out to drink and compete as a team. Most do not even know about the APA singles program or even care to compete as individuals. They will not even come out and play handicapped events only for APA players. Sad but true!!


I'm not knocking your program, but I feel that league players are quirky and their motivation for playing is not to enter big time tournaments. I will be following the release of future information and hope you have great success.


I agree, and I guess I answered parts of this above too... remember, its not ironed out yet, its just a plan we're working on... This idea may not work for everyone, which is why I am saying its non-competitive (which may be the wrong term). We want people to play APA, BCA, and TAP and the rest of them, what we are trying to prove is an option for the more educated player who may be interested in trying out their skills in a large payout event like this... maybe it's more of a dual mission we have to take on: educate players, make them aware of the professional realm, and introduce a way into it for cheap... ie: if you can win at your local level for $8/week, how would you fare against the top of the field? And, all along the way, make some money for trying...

thanks for your input!

9ball
08-11-2008, 08:57 PM
Allen Jr, I think your on to something. Sure not everyone will agree on it, But it sounds great to me. It Gives me a chance to compete for the chance at the million dollar shootout.

Those that are interested will play, An those that complain about everything won't! Just do it and let us who are interested play and those that aren't can sit in the sidelines. Remember you won't and can't please everyone. :)


Again, I thank you and your Dad For putting on a great event!

Ron Cook
08-12-2008, 02:06 AM
* Teams can be started anywhere and everywhere... once you have at least 20 teams in a region, 1 person can win an entry into the Shootout!
* Opportunity for League Operators in new markets and a new league environment
* At the end of 11 weeks, the top 4 teams will earn their way into a local Million Dollar Satellite
4 Teams of 8 players = 32 man tourney
Once a Region has 20 teams playing weekly, 1 person can earn entry every 11 weeks
for players to win their way into our Million Dollar Shootout events!


Allen Jr., you and your dad are trying your best but the reality is who is going to play in a Million Dollar Tournament with very little chance to win? Who is going to pay airfare, housing, entry fees and be like Johnny Archer and loose $4,000. plus expenses and have to play some of the best players in the country with only a chance to win a $20,000. first place prize? Johnny for example lost over $4,000. and he is one of the best players in the country.

You and your dad have good intentions, but unfortuantely the numbers do not work and your concepts will not work like poker, and starting new pool leagues in a country where pool rooms are shutting down, is not the answer to our sport. Remember our sport is about 85-90% skill and poker is the luck of the draw!

I have been in the financing business for over 20 years and if you two are interested in starting a Million Dollar Tour/Tournament that may work please drop me an e-mail at ronatlighthouse@aol.com for I may be interested in working full time on a concept where your vision has opened awareness accross the country and the possibilities of having a Million Dollar Tournament can become a possible reality!

Thanks again for your efforts, and hopefully we can join forces in a challenge that is much bigger than 2 or 3 people, for it takes all of the player's support and to obtain a response from everyone we need to include each player both new beginers and pro players with a good possibility of winning a MILLION DOLLARS, as opposed to not just having an entry into a major tournament to take last place in an event where there was NO CHANCE TO WIN to start with.

Do you catch my tread?

Ron Cook