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bluepepper
08-11-2008, 08:46 AM
I think a separate forum for aiming techniques would not only keep them all in one place for easy reference but would also allow the snooker players to commune with the pool players and share ideas.
What do you think?

Colin Colenso
08-11-2008, 09:05 AM
Maybe a 'Technical' Section.

But that may decrease the level of discussion.

Colin

PKM
08-11-2008, 09:10 AM
I think we need a "center-to-edge" forum

I'm sure if we only had that, there would be very productive discussion :banghead:

jondrums
08-11-2008, 09:51 AM
I am consistantly frustrated with the stock reply to every thread that mentions aiming. THERE IS ONLY ONE AIM!!!!

I for one would be excited to learn more about the Hal's system, but all I ever hear is adversisements about how good it is, but never any real information.

I fear an aiming forum would quickly be overrun with this kind of noise.

I would very much like a special sub-section for technical billiards discussion!

Jon

Koop
08-11-2008, 10:04 AM
I am consistantly frustrated with the stock reply to every thread that mentions aiming. THERE IS ONLY ONE AIM!!!!

I for one would be excited to learn more about the Hal's system, but all I ever hear is adversisements about how good it is, but never any real information.

Jon

Have you called him? His number is all over this board and he charges nothing. Why should we put the information all over the internet when you can call him and get it from the horses mouth.

Not to mention, whenever anyone posts anything about his systems, the PhD's come out of the word work to poke holes in it. It just isn't worth arguing about. I will remain blissfully ignorant to all the equations that debunk his system while I continue to use it and see my game get better.

Regards,
Koop

cookie man
08-11-2008, 11:22 AM
Have you called him? His number is all over this board and he charges nothing. Why should we put the information all over the internet when you can call him and get it from the horses mouth.

Not to mention, whenever anyone posts anything about his systems, the PhD's come out of the word work to poke holes in it. It just isn't worth arguing about. I will remain blissfully ignorant to all the equations that debunk his system while I continue to use it and see my game get better.

Regards,
Koop
I agree with KOOP!!!!

smoooothstroke
08-11-2008, 11:34 AM
Yeah put them all in 1 place so I can avoid them completely.

Pushout
08-11-2008, 12:57 PM
Have you called him? His number is all over this board and he charges nothing. Why should we put the information all over the internet when you can call him and get it from the horses mouth.

Not to mention, whenever anyone posts anything about his systems, the PhD's come out of the word work to poke holes in it. It just isn't worth arguing about. I will remain blissfully ignorant to all the equations that debunk his system while I continue to use it and see my game get better.

Regards,
Koop

Tap, tap, tap!! It's amazing the number of people who dis Hal's system and want to tell us why it works or why it doesn't but refuse to call him and talk to him about it. Or Stan.
I think a lot of people would be surprised, but they'd just rather drag it out in the forum.

Koop
08-11-2008, 01:07 PM
Tap, tap, tap!! It's amazing the number of people who dis Hal's system and want to tell us why it works or why it doesn't but refuse to call him and talk to him about it. Or Stan.
I think a lot of people would be surprised, but they'd just rather drag it out in the forum.

Yep, Stan would be another great one to call.
The question keeps coming up about how people who knows Hal's systems are cryptic about it and why. It makes me laugh because these people are constantly reminded that Hal is only a phone call away yet feel the need to show us how smart they are by putting up equations that NO ONE in the pool world could understand. I mean, can you imagine Reyes, Bustamante, Duell(sp), etc..looking at equations on this board and saying..."Yeah, that's how I do it!" They look at two points and pivot. That's it.

PKM
08-11-2008, 01:09 PM
Yep, Stan would be another great one to call.
The question keeps coming up about how people who knows Hal's systems are cryptic about it and why. It makes me laugh because these people are constantly reminded that Hal is only a phone call away yet feel the need to show us how smart they are by putting up equations that NO ONE in the pool world could understand. I mean, can you imagine Reyes, Bustamante, Duell(sp), etc..looking at equations on this board and saying..."Yeah, that's how I do it!" They look at two points and pivot. That's it.

So was bluepepper's earlier post accurate?
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=1350243&postcount=22

cookie man
08-11-2008, 01:10 PM
They look at two points and pivot. That's it.
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Koop
08-11-2008, 01:10 PM
So was bluepepper's earlier post accurate?
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=1350243&postcount=22

No it's not. There is one fatal flaw in his post and I would say, definitely the reason he is missing shots.

av84fun
08-11-2008, 01:16 PM
I am consistantly frustrated with the stock reply to every thread that mentions aiming. THERE IS ONLY ONE AIM!!!!

I for one would be excited to learn more about the Hal's system, but all I ever hear is adversisements about how good it is, but never any real information.

I fear an aiming forum would quickly be overrun with this kind of noise.

I would very much like a special sub-section for technical billiards discussion!

Jon

Jon, why don't you pick up the phone and call Hal Houle who has invited the world to do so about 500 times???

Regards,
Jim

Fatboy
08-11-2008, 02:09 PM
i agree a technical forum would be great, not tieing it to a specific game, It would be good for Dr Dave, Blue Pepper, Hal, Scott Lee etc. A hardcore technial forum.


no bS, no pin ball, no bowling, just hard core shit this is Ames mister!


I dont agree with alot of break away forums however I believe this would be a great idea.

Jimmy M.
08-11-2008, 02:14 PM
No it's not. There is one fatal flaw in his post and I would say, definitely the reason he is missing shots.

I'm afraid to ask for fear of the "call Hal" answer, but it's much easier for me to ask here than to get away for a lengthy phone call while at work, so I'm going to ask ... what is the fatal flaw in his post?

Also, I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask or not but, with the multitude of aiming-system posts, I guess this is as good as any ... how do you aim combinations using a system?

Masirib5
08-11-2008, 02:18 PM
How about that forum for questions and surveys like: "What is your favorite players shirt color?" or "If you felt younger - would you play better?"

But I guess that's what makes up a forum. People from all walks of pool life need to know something different to make them feel whole! Or are questions asked sometimes just to get your post numbers increased?

I guess I'm having a bad day!!!!

BRKNRUN
08-11-2008, 02:27 PM
I'm afraid to ask for fear of the "call Hal" answer, but it's much easier for me to ask here than to get away for a lengthy phone call while at work, so I'm going to ask ... what is the fatal flaw in his post?

Also, I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask or not but, with the multitude of aiming-system posts, I guess this is as good as any ... how do you aim combinations using a system?

I don't believe you just asked that?

I will tell you what...You teach me a method for better CB control and how to NOT to have a convulsion during the key shot in a rack...and I will show you a method how to aim combos.....:)

(If you were really serious that is....which I doubt) ;)

BRKNRUN
08-11-2008, 02:32 PM
How about that forum for questions and surveys like: "What is your favorite players shirt color?" or "If you felt younger - would you play better?"

But I guess that's what makes up a forum. People from all walks of pool life need to know something different to make them feel whole! Or are questions asked sometimes just to get your post numbers increased?

I guess I'm having a bad day!!!!


While were at it....

How bout a forum for Happy Birthdays
How bout a forum for when will I ever get my Varney
How bout a forum for SPAM
How bout a forum for Cocobolo Cowboy threads.
How bout a forum for Hey Mike the server is down and/or AZ is running Sllooooooow
How bout a forum for threads asking to start new forums


Ok...Im done

jondrums
08-11-2008, 02:58 PM
I would like to make a few things clear:
I am not trying to "dis" hal's system.
I have never put up equasions refuting his system
I would love to learn more about it
I would like someone to clearly explain his system here on the forum.
That would be wonderful!

Please don't call me a hater, I am not. In fact I am in favor of more information. I don't understand what the big secret is? And I can't stand all those posts refuting other ideas as inferior while not giving a clue what the superior method is!

Jimmy M.
08-11-2008, 03:37 PM
I don't believe you just asked that?

I will tell you what...You teach me a method for better CB control and how to NOT to have a convulsion during the key shot in a rack...and I will show you a method how to aim combos.....:)

(If you were really serious that is....which I doubt) ;)

I was dead serious. I can understand that some geometrical relationship between the balls and the pockets could exist to where an aiming point could be easily determined using some system that exploits that relationship. However, in the case of combinations, unlike pockets which are always in the same spot, the secondary target (the second ball in the combination), is not always in the same spot. It could be anywhere on the table.

BRKNRUN
08-11-2008, 05:13 PM
I was dead serious. I can understand that some geometrical relationship between the balls and the pockets could exist to where an aiming point could be easily determined using some system that exploits that relationship. However, in the case of combinations, unlike pockets which are always in the same spot, the secondary target (the second ball in the combination), is not always in the same spot. It could be anywhere on the table.


Well then...my above offer is available...:wink:

However....(If I understand what you are looking for)....I don't think the method I use is going to fit the type of method you reference...and I really don't think it exists....(like you describe)

Chances are (I hope) you already are doing something similar to what I do...(If not I need to re-analyze what the heck I am doing)

LOL...Now that I think about this...it really is kind of comical that a borderline banger...(me) would be offering up methods to a borderline pro...(jimmy).........This whole situation needs to be turned around...:)

Fatboy
08-11-2008, 05:26 PM
While were at it....

How bout a forum for Happy Birthdays
How bout a forum for when will I ever get my Varney
How bout a forum for SPAM
How bout a forum for Cocobolo Cowboy threads.
How bout a forum for Hey Mike the server is down and/or AZ is running Sllooooooow
How bout a forum for threads asking to start new forums


Ok...Im done


Man, I want a forum for my backache. :embarrassed2:

BRKNRUN
08-11-2008, 05:30 PM
Man, I want a forum for my backache. :embarrassed2:


Damnnn!!!! I knew I was missing one!!! LOL:D

bluepepper
08-11-2008, 07:25 PM
All right, I get it. No new forums. But I think many great new ideas have been shared here on these forums, and they just get lost. Aiming is so fundamental to billiard sports that I think it would do everyone a service to keep it in its own separate forum.

As for the fatal flaw in my description of Hal's system, if there was a fatal flaw in my description, there was a fatal flaw in Hal's description to me, and Dave SpiderWebComm's confirmation of Hal's description to me when I was confused why it didn't work.

Basically, what you're saying is that by calling Hal or driving, or flying, or pole vaulting to see Hal, you are still going to have this fatal flaw that keeps the system from working. What an endorsement. Anyone ready to call Hal now? He's the one to get the info from. No one else can tell you anything.

av84fun
08-11-2008, 07:27 PM
So was bluepepper's earlier post accurate?
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=1350243&postcount=22

No...As Mr. Houle has already confirmed, there are MAJOR omissions in his post.

Regards,
Jim

Koop
08-12-2008, 06:10 AM
I'm afraid to ask for fear of the "call Hal" answer, but it's much easier for me to ask here than to get away for a lengthy phone call while at work, so I'm going to ask ... what is the fatal flaw in his post?

Also, I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask or not but, with the multitude of aiming-system posts, I guess this is as good as any ... how do you aim combinations using a system?

Jimmy, I would never give you the pat answer, only certain people who ask the same thing over and over with no intention of calling Hal.

The fatal flaw in his description was:
"Once your center-to-edge sighting is aligned, place the bridge and cue to one side of center cueball."

Regards,
Koop

P.S. With or without an aiming system...you'd kick my ass on the table :smile:

Koop
08-12-2008, 06:14 AM
All right, I get it. No new forums. But I think many great new ideas have been shared here on these forums, and they just get lost. Aiming is so fundamental to billiard sports that I think it would do everyone a service to keep it in its own separate forum.

As for the fatal flaw in my description of Hal's system, if there was a fatal flaw in my description, there was a fatal flaw in Hal's description to me, and Dave SpiderWebComm's confirmation of Hal's description to me when I was confused why it didn't work.

Basically, what you're saying is that by calling Hal or driving, or flying, or pole vaulting to see Hal, you are still going to have this fatal flaw that keeps the system from working. What an endorsement. Anyone ready to call Hal now? He's the one to get the info from. No one else can tell you anything.


Jeff, in all seriousness, why don't you either create your own aiming system or stop bringing Hal up in your posts. If they don't work for you then so be it. I am coming to realize that some of you just like to try and poke holes in things without ever actually having to create something yourself.

I think a good start would be something with huge equations in it so that you and the other smarty pants :smile: can understand it.

Koop

bluepepper
08-12-2008, 07:13 AM
I'm not trying to poke holes in his system. The system has holes already, and I'm just trying to help find those holes, so they can be avoided. But I also think it's a good method for helping to find your aim by feel. I'm not against it. I'm only against saying that it's adjustment free.