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chefjeff
03-11-2005, 07:44 AM
The link, below, was posted on another thread that only about 390 people visited. What a missed post! I'm reposting it here as a reminder of what this beautiful game really gives us.

The entire universe of physics, philosophy, physiology, psychology, sex, business, ethics, religion, morality, the biggest picture, the smallest picture, everything in between, life and death, and the resulting happiness are dramatically expressed by this short video.

Watch it and recognize the senseless b/s that has recently penetrated this forum for what it is. Take a breather as all the bad just disappears and all the good comes forth. Bask in it and be thankful that we live in a prosperous enough time and place and are healthy enough to be able to experience pool.

http://www.bskunion.at/efler/Faszin...ows_Media_9.wmv

Bob Jewett explains: The video that the clip is from was shot and produced by a group in Austria. I think the player was Andreas Efler. The part of the cue ball that rubs on the cloth is heated and the cloth is heated in masse shots.

Now, don't you feel better?

Jeff Livingston

MikeJanis
03-11-2005, 08:07 AM
I can't find any video at that link.

Mj

catscradle
03-11-2005, 08:20 AM
I can't find any video at that link.

Mj
The link got truncated I believe note the ... in the middle.

MikeJanis
03-11-2005, 08:25 AM
The link got truncated I believe note the ... in the middle.


Ok, my meds are getting to me...... What does Truncated mean exactly?



Mj

Black-Balled
03-11-2005, 08:26 AM
http://www.bskunion.at/efler/Faszination_Dreiband_Windows_Media_9.wmv

Wow that is the best camera work I have ever seen. I think that I can put up the whole link.

Black-Balled
03-11-2005, 08:29 AM
http://www.bskunion.at/efler/Faszination_Dreiband_Windows_Media_9.wmv

Wow that is the best camera work I have ever seen. I think that I can put up the whole link.

Or not. thy this, remove the + and spaces.
http://www.bskunion.at + + /efler/Faszination_ + + Dreiband_Windows_ + + 9.wmv

iHopw that works cause its cool.

or you can goto http://www.bskunion.at and click the link called Videovorschau
dumie

MikeJanis
03-11-2005, 08:31 AM
http://www.bskunion.at/efler/Faszination_Dreiband_Windows_Media_9.wmv

Wow that is the best camera work I have ever seen. I think that I can put up the whole link.


Thanks, the above link worked better than words about how it didn't.

Mikey liked it !!!!

Mj

Celtic
03-11-2005, 08:39 AM
That was just awesome. A clip like that as a commercial on TV would get alot of interest into the game. It does make the game look far more rich then most peoples view of bar pool on a friday night while drinking some beers. This game gets a raw deal as it can be quite the work of art.

catscradle
03-11-2005, 08:51 AM
Ok, my meds are getting to me...... What does Truncated mean exactly?



Mj

Actually now that you mention it, it didn't get truncated as truncated means it is cut off at the end. In this case something was removed from the middle and ... substituted. I don't know what would be the right word for that. "abbreviated"?

Black-Balled
03-11-2005, 09:10 AM
Ok, my meds are getting to me...... What does Truncated mean exactly?



Mj

Shortened or cut down, yes? Check out the vid it is cool. And the page can be viewed in english. There is the option on the bottom left of the left menu.

Jersey
03-11-2005, 09:39 AM
Thanks for that, chefjeff, and your right...this game is beautiful when you know and understand what's going on!...and I agree that TV commercials with great images like that would really spur interest...this game needs a more polished presentation...it is a 'Gentlemans' game after all...made my day...can't wait to get on the cloth this weekend...

some people like their greens in links, I prefer my greens 50x100...

Bob Jewett
03-11-2005, 12:10 PM
http://www.bskunion.at/efler/Faszination_Dreiband_Windows_Media_9.wmv

Wow that is the best camera work I have ever seen. I think that I can put up the whole link.
There are seven sections in the free clip:

1. Flying Cue Ball Hitting Cushion. You can see the spin change nearly instantly on the cushion and the cushion penetration.

2. 3-Cushion Follow Shot in Infrared. You can see hot spots where the first object ball rubs on the cloth. Also, the cue ball hops as it bounces back from the rail, leaving a series of hot spots.

3. Tip Hitting Ball. You can see the tip emitting a cloud of chalk even before it hits the cue ball, and afterwards, oh, my is there a cloud. You can also see tip compression, and the tip riding around the cue ball as spin goes on, which is the thing that causes squirt. There is only one tip contact.

4. Jump Shot With Follow. Does the tip hit a second time? See the stick wiggle after the shot.

5. Masse From Behind. Notice the hot spots as the cue ball is hopping as it leaves the tip. Note how the cloth is heated by the cue ball -- the path is a parabola. There is a hot ring around the cue ball where it has been rubbing on the cloth, most noticible just after the peak of the parabola.

6. Running With The Balls. Just like Pamplona.

7. Ball Meets Cushion. See the dust fly. You can also see the cushion penetration again.

Jack Flanagan
03-11-2005, 01:09 PM
one word................."WOW !"

greenkill
03-11-2005, 01:23 PM
Is there a place where you can get the 'non' free clip? Purchase?

ScottR
03-11-2005, 01:54 PM
Thanks for sharing this link.

Muxy
03-11-2005, 01:59 PM
Very relaxing.

AuntyDan
03-11-2005, 02:57 PM
Really nice, thanks for posting that! Do you notice how the sliding spin shot (At 01:20) goes into the rail with right spin but appears to exit with no spin at all? Of course from that angle you cannot tell how much the direction of the cue ball was changed by the impact.

The cue tip deformation at 00:37 is pretty impressive.

Any order the DVD yet? (Bob Jewett I'm looking at you)

mindtriplx
03-11-2005, 02:59 PM
ok is it just me? i cant find this video anywhere on this website. was it taken down?

shoutout33
03-11-2005, 03:22 PM
Man that was so pretty. :D Relaxing is an uderstatement. You can actually do that to a billiards ball?!? Man I need to get a cue. :p

stolz2
03-11-2005, 04:09 PM
Man that was so pretty. :D Relaxing is an uderstatement. You can actually do that to a billiards ball?!? Man I need to get a cue.

That made me want to do meditate and do yoga with a cue ball, i mean come on we all know the real beauty of the sport, is to take other people's money and make them feel bad. LOL

Mack

Bob Jewett
03-11-2005, 05:01 PM
Is there a place where you can get the 'non' free clip? Purchase?
I think that the DVD is presently only available as PAL format. For more info, in German, see the page
http://www.bskunion.at/efler.htm
which also has a 17-page PDF about carom billiards and seems to offer the DVD and framed pictures, but I can't find any prices. There is an email address.

The NTSC version of the DVD is in preparation, I think.

JimS
03-12-2005, 06:18 AM
See your play at that speed.

Read Mark Wilson in BD. That's what he writes about every month. Zen billiards.

frankncali
03-12-2005, 02:47 PM
I thought it was great. I watched some of it in frame-by-frame mode and
I dont think the cue hits the ball twice on the jump. Do you?

I like the tip hitting the ball in frame-by-frame alot. Thats the best shot
I have ever seen of a tip breaking down. It looks like they might have had alot of chalk on there for effect.
Do you still have any DVDs of the Jacksonville Project?


There are seven sections in the free clip:

1. Flying Cue Ball Hitting Cushion. You can see the spin change nearly instantly on the cushion and the cushion penetration.

2. 3-Cushion Follow Shot in Infrared. You can see hot spots where the first object ball rubs on the cloth. Also, the cue ball hops as it bounces back from the rail, leaving a series of hot spots.

3. Tip Hitting Ball. You can see the tip emitting a cloud of chalk even before it hits the cue ball, and afterwards, oh, my is there a cloud. You can also see tip compression, and the tip riding around the cue ball as spin goes on, which is the thing that causes squirt. There is only one tip contact.

4. Jump Shot With Follow. Does the tip hit a second time? See the stick wiggle after the shot.

5. Masse From Behind. Notice the hot spots as the cue ball is hopping as it leaves the tip. Note how the cloth is heated by the cue ball -- the path is a parabola. There is a hot ring around the cue ball where it has been rubbing on the cloth, most noticible just after the peak of the parabola.

6. Running With The Balls. Just like Pamplona.

7. Ball Meets Cushion. See the dust fly. You can also see the cushion penetration again.

MrLucky
03-12-2005, 03:33 PM
This site has some really interesting stuff ! I've been surfin around it for a month now :D

Bob Jewett
03-13-2005, 01:55 PM
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I like the tip hitting the ball in frame-by-frame alot. Thats the best shot
I have ever seen of a tip breaking down. It looks like they might have had alot of chalk on there for effect.
Do you still have any DVDs of the Jacksonville Project?
I also thought that they might have had extra chalk on the tip for that shot. I'm not sure the tip actually breaks down, but it sure does deform. It would be interesting to know what the player thought subjectively of the hit.

I do still sell VHS tapes of the Jacksonville Project, but for a gee-whiz experience the Austrian DVD is probably more interesting. Dr. Dave's high speed videos also cover a lot of shots and they are free on his web site.

For info on the Jacksonville Project, see http://www.sfbilliards.com/jax_bd150.pdf

For Dr. Dave's videos, see http://www.engr.colostate.edu/~dga/pool/high_speed_videos/