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cuetable
10-30-2008, 01:23 PM
Match yourself against a pro player. Here is a layout from a major tournament in the past. Can you run this out?

Contest:

Videotape yourself running out this rack under 5 minutes
Upload your video to YouTube.com, put "CueTable Billiard Contest 2008.11-1" in the title.
Post your YouTube video URL in here: http://talk.cuetable.com/showthread.php?p=3132
Please also discuss your position plan and potential problems with others. Any pool friends here are welcome to add any comments you may have on any videos.
This contest ends on 11.9.2008. At that time we will reveal the video of a pro player playing this layout. This is an opportunity to measure yourself against the pros.

http://CueTable.com/P/?@3AQeS1BFEL3CWNh2EJcY1FALR3GAff2IAcq2PDNk@

http://cuetable.com/pub/shots/9b-16.jpg


Help

Print out the layout (CueTable printing help (http://talk.cuetable.com/faq.php?faq=tutorial#faq_tutorial_10))
Bring the layout, a digital camera and a tripod when you go to a 9" pool table next time.
Set you camera up high so the video can cover the table. Record yourself playing this layout.
Submit your video to YouTube.com (http://youtube.com). Enter "CueTable Billiard Contest 2008.11-1" in the title and tags.
Register to CueTable.com and post the YouTube URL and a brief layout analysis in here (http://talk.cuetable.com/showthread.php?p=3132).
The first three participants who upload his/her complete run-outs video will win a CueTable Polo Shirt (http://www.cafepress.com/cuetable/5876825).
The prizes are for people who have not won before. In any case, formal winners are encouraged to participate and have fun together!
http://cuetable.com/pub/shots/CueTableCafePressShirts.jpg (http://www.cafepress.com/cuetable/5876825)
*The shirts are available for purchase as well ( click on the pic above. ) They are great looking and very comfortable.
Customization is available for any league players / team members. Please contact us (http://talk.cuetable.com/sendmessage.php) for details.

About the Contest

Everybody is welcome to join the discussion the layout here. Instructors and expert players, please feel free to share any insights you have about the layout or videos.
If you have already seen the video before, please keep it a secret so others can enjoy this exercise.
For more exercises like this one, please check CueTable.com > Table Talk (http://talk.cuetable.com/forumdisplay.php?f=39).
If you don't see the large size CueTable layout above, please download Adobe Shockwave Full Installer for your browser here: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/alternates/#sp
To learn how to create your own diagram to show your ideas, please check CueTable Software Tutorial (http://talk.cuetable.com/faq.php?faq=tutorial)


Get your camera ready and best of luck!

devindra
10-30-2008, 03:36 PM
This looks like a fairly tough runout. The three to the 5 is no gurantee and if you don't get on the right side of the 6 you have a bit of work to do.

Roy Steffensen
10-31-2008, 04:47 PM
I wanted to try this today. At first I decided to warm up with some 14-1, and I got lost in time and at the end of the tape I had a 35 and a 41 run in 14-1 I wanted to keep, so I had to hurry trying to set the table up for the contest, with only 3 minutes left on the tape.

I forgot the layout, and put some balls on the wrong place. Not much, but too much. I had it figured out in my head how I should play position already after reading this thread, but I couldn't place the balls correctly. But I knew the route the cueball should go.
I did manage to do it on the first try, though, with only 3 minutes left on the tape :D

Here's the video of the wrong layout:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5644335495257552205

I went home and had dinner, then set it up correct, and did it on my first two tries. I missed position to the 7 in the first try, but still made the runout.

Here's the video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7857364050438506448

I though this layout was harder than it actually was, and I was surprised that I did it 3 out of 3 times. (Ok, only 2 out of 2, since the first was with wrong layout)

Good luck to the others! Looking forward to more competitions like this!

shayla
10-31-2008, 07:08 PM
This is my first time seeing one of these posts and looks like fun. Any rules against running into other balls?

nathandumoulin
10-31-2008, 07:18 PM
Great run outs Roy. Very impressed. That was a very difficult layout.

jsp
10-31-2008, 07:21 PM
I wanted to try this today. At first I decided to warm up with some 14-1, and I got lost in time and at the end of the tape I had a 35 and a 41 run in 14-1 I wanted to keep, so I had to hurry trying to set the table up for the contest, with only 3 minutes left on the tape.

I forgot the layout, and put some balls on the wrong place. Not much, but too much. I had it figured out in my head how I should play position already after reading this thread, but I couldn't place the balls correctly. But I knew the route the cueball should go.
I did manage to do it on the first try, though, with only 3 minutes left on the tape :D

Here's the video of the wrong layout:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5644335495257552205

I went home and had dinner, then set it up correct, and did it on my first two tries. I missed position to the 7 in the first try, but still made the runout.

Here's the video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7857364050438506448

I though this layout was harder than it actually was, and I was surprised that I did it 3 out of 3 times. (Ok, only 2 out of 2, since the first was with wrong layout)

Good luck to the others! Looking forward to more competitions like this!
Nice shooting Roy! :thumbup:

Roy Steffensen
11-01-2008, 02:51 AM
This is my first time seeing one of these posts and looks like fun. Any rules against running into other balls?

I didn't see that rule this time, but normally it is not allowed to bump into other balls. Guess that's the rule for this layout too...

You should try it! It adds a little more nerves doing the runout when you are taping it.

Great run outs Roy. Very impressed. That was a very difficult layout.

Nice shooting Roy!

Thanks.

I thought the layout would cause more problems than it did. The key is to get the right angle on the 3-ball and on the 6-ball, imo. I had ran the table in my head a couple of times before playing, just by reading this thread, so I knew exactly in which areas I wanted position.

It was fun to join a contest. You two should tape and upload too!

shayla
11-01-2008, 09:19 AM
Here's the video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7857364050438506448

I though this layout was harder than it actually was, and I was surprised that I did it 3 out of 3 times. (Ok, only 2 out of 2, since the first was with wrong layout)

Good luck to the others! Looking forward to more competitions like this!

Nice runout. I also figured out first in my mind how I would run it out, and that really helps. But once I got to the table, I had a hell of a time getting from the 1 to the 2 without scratching in the corner, and when I wouldn't scratch, I could make the 2 but run into the 6/9. I think I've tried this at least 50 times already and I just can't seem to get the right angle on the 3 to get to the 5. Maybe I'll try it again later. First I need to make a trip to Target to buy some paper hole reinforcements because I've been marking the spots with my spit and they dry up quick! :)

Roy Steffensen
11-01-2008, 10:31 AM
Nice runout. I also figured out first in my mind how I would run it out, and that really helps. But once I got to the table, I had a hell of a time getting from the 1 to the 2 without scratching in the corner, and when I wouldn't scratch, I could make the 2 but run into the 6/9. I think I've tried this at least 50 times already and I just can't seem to get the right angle on the 3 to get to the 5. Maybe I'll try it again later. First I need to make a trip to Target to buy some paper hole reinforcements because I've been marking the spots with my spit and they dry up quick! :)

I marked the spots simply by tapping the balls firmly 2 times. You know, like they do in trickshot-exhibitions. Then the balls will fall right into the correct spot, and the spots will last a day or two.

grindz
11-01-2008, 10:49 AM
Your last out was EXACTLY as I pictured it in my mind. The first one with almost scratching off the one and banking the 7 wouldn't have been on my options list though. :wink:

If too steep on the 2 then just back it around 3 rails to get behind the 3 and shoot it back up table to get on either side of the 5.

td

nathandumoulin
11-01-2008, 12:30 PM
...speaking of not being allowed to run into other balls.

I set this up 4 times. I got out twice. Both times I landed a little straight on the 2-ball.

Rather than punch the CB through the opening and out for an angle on the 3-ball, I found it easier to run into the 5-ball. I'd run into it fairly full, kicking it over towards the pocket.

This would leave me straight on the 3-ball, and make the 5-ball easier. From here a few light draw strokes got me to the 6, where I'd go back to the standard run out (as Roy did).

It may not have been the textbook technique, but when I fell fairly straight on the 2-ball, it seemed like the obvious choice.

lady9ball
11-01-2008, 02:29 PM
I am in the process of uploading my videos - looks like it is going to take a long time to get there, then I guess there's an approval period on youtube??? This is the first time I've ever put anything out there, so I'm learning as I go.

I know you're all trembling with anticipation. :)

lady9ball
11-01-2008, 05:55 PM
Finally one of my videos is ready to go. I am going to post the 2nd one tomorrow, which is the one where I actually run the layout the correct way.

This run came several minutes later. After completing it successfully, I kept resetting the balls to see how many times and ways I could do it. I did it "the wrong way" a few times, but am posting this one because it includes a jump shot. I am not a proficient jumper, normally, so was quite pleased after making the jump and continuing the run.

Okay, here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60UCRLZtjLQ

I know you won't enjoy it as much as I did. :) Oh, and apologies for the poor lighting and the fact that I forgot to turn the display off on my video camera.

lady9ball
11-01-2008, 06:54 PM
I'm starting to figure out this youtube thing. Here's the video where I ran the layout the right way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MQheXbxg5A

This has been fun! I look forward to the next one. ;)

cuetable
11-01-2008, 07:09 PM
Roy and Lady9Ball,

Thanks for your great video. You are winner #1 and #2!

Please log on to http://library.cuetable.com/showthread.php?t=2894 and post your videos links there to make it an official entry. Feel free to add any insights on this exercise.

In addition, please email me with your shipping address and shirt size, so I can prepare the package!

Keep up the great shooting! :smile:



Note:
To give everyone else a chance for this contest, I will add 2 more winner prizes to make it a total of 5! Take your camera on your next visit to the pool room !

cuetable
11-06-2008, 04:32 PM
A last minute reminder for everyone who'd like to try this out. We have prizes to give out for 3 more people who can record a video of themselves running out this rack! :D

On Monday we will show a video clip from a big tournament, so you will be able to compare yourself to a pro. Get your camera out now and see if you really shoot better than you talk :)

vijesh
11-07-2008, 04:44 AM
Hey i thought i will give it a try and run out in otherways if possible i have given it a try....... not quite a pro like some of the guys posted but tried to up there.......

Here is the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAc1u8B8HlQ

Vijesh

Thanks for watchin

billbOK
11-07-2008, 06:24 AM
I'm starting to figure out this youtube thing. Here's the video where I ran the layout the right way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MQheXbxg5A

This has been fun! I look forward to the next one. ;)

I like your run out. Very clean ! ;)

PoolsGold
11-07-2008, 08:18 AM
dang I wish I had a video camera. Oh, and a pool table.

cuetable
11-17-2008, 05:40 AM
Announcement 11.17.08:

Video Origin :cool:

Here is the video where the layout is drawn from. It is from in the a match between Wu Chia Ching and Yang Ching Shun in the 2008 Guinness 9-Ball Tour Jakarta Final (scroll down)

http://talk.cuetable.com/showthread.php?p=3132#post3132


To view more clips from the same match, please visit: http://talk.cuetable.com/showthread.php?t=2883

Thanks to everyone for participating in the contest. Please view the video as a "suggestion" rather than "the absolute answer". After all, pool in a fun game because different people can apply their own creative ideas.

Please feel free to discuss the video and make any suggestions!


Video Winner :)

We have 2 winners this time, your prizes have been sent today

Contest Winner:
lady9ball



We will have another video contest in a few days. Grab your camera and get ready soon!