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mikepage
05-04-2009, 05:18 AM
From another thread, it appears there are mega-billiard parlors elsewhere in the world (e.g. someone showed one in St Petersburg, Russia). And there are large ones that used to be in business in the US but are no longer. My place won't be open for about two months, but it appears to be near the top of the list. If anyone could add or correct anything here, that would be good. Let's stick to places that have 45 or more tables.

Largest by number of tables

(1) Shooter's Billiards, Burnsville (Minneapolis) MN -- 64
(2) Fargo Billiards & Gastropub , Fargo, ND ---- 58
(2) Q-Masters, Virginia Beach, VA ---58
(3) Big Dog Billiards, Des Moines, IA -- 50?
(4) Main St. Billiards, Tuscon, AZ -- 47
(5) Chris's, Chicago, IL -- 46?
(6) Country Club USA Chelmsford, MA --46
(7) Two Stooges Bar & Grill, Fridley, MN ---45?



Largest by area

(1) Fargo Billiards & Gastropub, Fargo ND -- 28,536 sq. ft.
(2) Shooters - 22,000
(3) Q-master - 20,000

??


Anybody know of any bigger places or want to add to this list with numbers. [And no, the bowling alley upstairs doesn't count ;-)]

It would be good to get the top ten or so

jay helfert
05-04-2009, 05:23 AM
Both Hard Times (Bellflower and Sacramento) have over thirty tables in about 15,000 square feet. The biggest I know of out West.

Dave and Busters are the largest "recreation" facilities I've ever seen in this country, encompassing over 40,000 square feet (maybe 50K). They have EVERYTHING, including pool. I saw a similar facility in China that was larger, over thirty pool and snooker tables, over thirty ping pong tables, a huge arcade with many exotic games that I don't see here, plus a very large bar area and restaurant. It may have been close to 75,000 square feet in total area. I was in there twice and it was busy both times, with most tables going.

JAM
05-04-2009, 05:49 AM
Here's a little pool trivia:

The world’s largest billiard hall was built during billiards’ “Golden Age.” “The Recreation,” a mammoth seven-story health spa, was a bustling Detroit business in the 1920s. It featured 103 tables, 88 bowling lanes, 20 barber chairs, three manicuring stands, 14 cigar stands, a lunch counter on each floor, a restaurant that could seat 300, and an exhibition room with theater seating, that could accommodate 250 spectators.

Source: http://home.bca-pool.com/displaycommon.cfm?an=1&subarticlenbr=41 [Retrieved 4 May 2009]

Some more interesting pool snippets:

According to the Sporting Goods Manufacturers Association (SGMA) in 2008, there are more male billiards participants in the US than female ones. A survey conducted shows that about 63% of all pool players in the country are men. Some of the regions in the States with the highest percentage of billiards participants are in Pacific, East North Central (Illinois, Indiana, Ohio) and South Atlantic (Georgia, Florida, North Carolina.) The SGMA also reports that most billiard players also enjoy pastimes like bowling and darts.

The most expensive billiard table was made by Vincent Facquet, and as reported in late 2008, this costs about $177,000 or €130,000. Some of the luxury add-ons to these tables are gold and platinum etchings, such as on the sight markers, as well as intricate engravings on the sides. The billiard triangle is built-in onto the table, and all you need to do is push it so it pops out. Custom-made tables may also be ordered, and even precious stones could be requested.


WOW! :) Does ANYBODY have a photo of this "The Recreation"? Holy pool balls, I'd love to see it! :grin-square:

JAM
05-04-2009, 05:54 AM
Here's the most expensive pool table below:

The Luxury Billiard is a 117-by-67-inch table with a 100-by-50-inch playing surface made of Iwan Simonis 860, the same cloth used on tables at any major billiards event. Surprisingly, the sights—a. k. a. “diamonds”—on the most expensive billiards table aren’t made with diamonds. You heard that right—someone actually managed to resist the urge to deck out an ultra-luxury item in precious gems. Instead, they’re inlayed with gold or platinum. Gold or platinum are also used in leaf-form to create the exquisite pattern on the table’s legs.

The Luxury Billiard is just as functional as it is beautiful. It features an automated drawer that can hold a set of pool cues and balls. Additionally, the triangle is built into the table so that you need only push on it—like the CD-ROM drive on a laptop—to eject it from the table.

The most expensive pool table in the world can be had for a mere $177,000. It comes in three models—Noblesse (18k gold), Majesté and Royal (platinum)—but custom configurations are available.

Island Drive
05-04-2009, 06:06 AM
Romines in Milwaukee has 51 tables and many 4X8 Gold Crowns along with 9 footers and such. Their 360 degree island bar overlooks the whole room with numerous nooks and areas designed for parties. It's probably 30,000 sq ft. and has pool room decorations everywhere.

jay helfert
05-04-2009, 06:06 AM
Here's the most expensive pool table below:

The Luxury Billiard is a 117-by-67-inch table with a 100-by-50-inch playing surface made of Iwan Simonis 860, the same cloth used on tables at any major billiards event. Surprisingly, the sights—a. k. a. “diamonds”—on the most expensive billiards table aren’t made with diamonds. You heard that right—someone actually managed to resist the urge to deck out an ultra-luxury item in precious gems. Instead, they’re inlayed with gold or platinum. Gold or platinum are also used in leaf-form to create the exquisite pattern on the table’s legs.

The Luxury Billiard is just as functional as it is beautiful. It features an automated drawer that can hold a set of pool cues and balls. Additionally, the triangle is built into the table so that you need only push on it—like the CD-ROM drive on a laptop—to eject it from the table.

The most expensive pool table in the world can be had for a mere $177,000. It comes in three models—Noblesse (18k gold), Majesté and Royal (platinum)—but custom configurations are available.

I'll take two! :eek:

fish on
05-04-2009, 06:25 AM
Thx for the info another great post no BS intended!:thumbup:

Here's a little pool trivia:

The world’s largest billiard hall was built during billiards’ “Golden Age.” “The Recreation,” a mammoth seven-story health spa, was a bustling Detroit business in the 1920s. It featured 103 tables, 88 bowling lanes, 20 barber chairs, three manicuring stands, 14 cigar stands, a lunch counter on each floor, a restaurant that could seat 300, and an exhibition room with theater seating, that could accommodate 250 spectators.

Source: http://home.bca-pool.com/displaycommon.cfm?an=1&subarticlenbr=41 [Retrieved 4 May 2009]

Some more interesting pool snippets:

According to the Sporting Goods Manufacturers Association (SGMA) in 2008, there are more male billiards participants in the US than female ones. A survey conducted shows that about 63% of all pool players in the country are men. Some of the regions in the States with the highest percentage of billiards participants are in Pacific, East North Central (Illinois, Indiana, Ohio) and South Atlantic (Georgia, Florida, North Carolina.) The SGMA also reports that most billiard players also enjoy pastimes like bowling and darts.

The most expensive billiard table was made by Vincent Facquet, and as reported in late 2008, this costs about $177,000 or €130,000. Some of the luxury add-ons to these tables are gold and platinum etchings, such as on the sight markers, as well as intricate engravings on the sides. The billiard triangle is built-in onto the table, and all you need to do is push it so it pops out. Custom-made tables may also be ordered, and even precious stones could be requested.


WOW! :) Does ANYBODY have a photo of this "The Recreation"? Holy pool balls, I'd love to see it! :grin-square:

CocoboloCowboy
05-04-2009, 06:35 AM
Our little community room has 29 Gold Crowns. 25 Pool, 3 Snooker, and Carom Table, but it is not open to the public. Membership thing, would be a GREAT Place to hold a Tourny, as we have a Resturant that serves Beer & Wine in the building.

watchez
05-04-2009, 06:48 AM
Shooters in Olathe - Don Coates could give the specifics but I know on sq foot it would rank in your top. I would say they have at least 40 tables.

memikey
05-04-2009, 07:21 AM
The most expensive pool table in the world can be had for a mere $177,000. It comes in three models—Noblesse (18k gold), Majesté and Royal (platinum)—but custom configurations are available.[/color]

To be honest I think that table is absolutely hideous and so garishly camp that even Liberace might think twice about giving it house room :)

JimS
05-04-2009, 07:26 AM
To be honest I think that table is absolutely hideous and so garishly camp that even Liberace might think twice about giving it house room :)

Tap. Tap. Tap.

I don't care for it either. I'll take a Diamond Pro over that any day. :groucho:

CocoboloCowboy
05-04-2009, 08:09 AM
Bull Shooters & Main Street in the Valley of the Sun both have 42 Tables I believe, both 4.5 x 9.0's, and Bar Boxes.

JoeyA
05-04-2009, 08:38 AM
From another thread, it appears there are mega-billiard parlors elsewhere in the world (e.g. someone showed one in St Petersburg, Russia). And there are large ones that used to be in business in the US but are no longer. My place won't be open for about two months, but it appears to be near the top of the list. If anyone could add or correct anything here, that would be good. Let's stick to places that have 45 or more tables.

Largest by number of tables

(1) Shooter's Billiards, Burnsville (Minneapolis) MN -- 64
(2) Fargo Billiards & Gastropub , Fargo, ND ---- 58
(2) Q-Masters, Virginia Beach, VA ---58
(3) Big Dog Billiards, Des Moines, IA -- 50?
(4) Main St. Billiards, Tuscon, AZ -- 47
(5) Chris's, Chicago, IL -- 46?
(6) Country Club USA Chelmsford, MA --46
(7) Two Stooges Bar & Grill, Fridley, MN ---45?



Largest by area

(1) Fargo Billiards & Gastropub, Fargo ND -- 28,536 sq. ft.
(2) Shooters - 22,000
(3) Q-master - 20,000

??


Anybody know of any bigger places or want to add to this list with numbers. [And no, the bowling alley upstairs doesn't count ;-)]

It would be good to get the top ten or so

I want to know when Fargo Billiard's tournaments are going to start. Also need some hotel information. My God, your place is HUGE! Are there any current photos of the work in progress?

With one of the Delta flights from New Orleans to Fargo taking 13 hours including lay-overs, I may have to bring Jay's book and a couple of Inside Pool Magazines to pass the time on the extra stops. j/k, there are some 5 hour flights as well. Please post your pool rates. It could be a trip breaker. :D

JoeyA

uwate
05-04-2009, 09:27 AM
The Country Club in Chelmsford MA has 50 tables.

mikepage
05-04-2009, 10:46 AM
I want to know when Fargo Billiard's tournaments are going to start. Also need some hotel information. My God, your place is HUGE! Are there any current photos of the work in progress?

Here's about 10% of it:

You're in a conference room (the teaching hub: We have three BCA-recognized instructors) and looking through double doors into two private rooms, each 1000 sq. ft. and each with two tables and leather furniture. We will cater to these rooms. There will be an accordian wall between them, so you can reserve one, or both, or both and the conference room.

Also our classes will use these rooms with the five tables so that students don't feel so on display.

drhanson
05-04-2009, 07:28 PM
I'm glad my sister lives in Fargo so I'll have a place to stay. Mike, how many of the 58 tables will be 9'? What make(s) of tables? Keep us posted on the Grand Opening date!

Rick S.
05-04-2009, 07:47 PM
(1) Shooter's Billiards, Burnsville (Minneapolis) MN -- 64
(2) Fargo Billiards & Gastropub , Fargo, ND ---- 58
(2) Q-Masters, Virginia Beach, VA ---58
(3) Big Dog Billiards, Des Moines, IA -- 50?
(4) Main St. Billiards, Tuscon, AZ -- 47
(5) Chris's, Chicago, IL -- 46?
(6) Country Club USA Chelmsford, MA --46
(7) Two Stooges Bar & Grill, Fridley, MN ---45?



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4. Main St. Billiards Tucson Az......no longer has 47 tables.

They are in trouble....and changing part of it into a dance club (over 21) is what I'm hearing. Some tables are already gone.

Steve - Detroit
05-04-2009, 08:00 PM
Here's a little pool trivia:

The world’s largest billiard hall was built during billiards’ “Golden Age.” “The Recreation,” a mammoth seven-story health spa, was a bustling Detroit business in the 1920s. It featured 103 tables, 88 bowling lanes, 20 barber chairs, three manicuring stands, 14 cigar stands, a lunch counter on each floor, a restaurant that could seat 300, and an exhibition room with theater seating, that could accommodate 250 spectators.

WOW! :) Does ANYBODY have a photo of this "The Recreation"? Holy pool balls, I'd love to see it! :grin-square:

There is a picture of the outside in Mizerak's book Complete Book of Pool on page 2. I remember my father talking about the place but he referred to it as Detroit Recreation or just Detroit Rec. I know he used to bowl there as did some other people I've known. If I can find out anything about the place, I'll let you know.

Cuebuddy
05-04-2009, 08:21 PM
I never counted all the tables but it seemed to me that the Antique billiard museum in Colorado Springs has about 40 Diamonds and a handful of Gold Crowns. I think they kept a few old Brunswick's and a 6x12 snooker table with scary tight pockets. There might even be a 3c table set up. I am thinking about 50 tables total, I will be back there in July so I will count and maybe snap a photo or two.

JAM
05-05-2009, 02:31 AM
There is a picture of the outside in Mizerak's book Complete Book of Pool on page 2. I remember my father talking about the place but he referred to it as Detroit Recreation or just Detroit Rec. I know he used to bowl there as did some other people I've known. If I can find out anything about the place, I'll let you know.

I don't know if I have this book, but I am going to check it out, if I do.

That place sounds like the nuts! Only in that "golden era" would such a place like that exist. Interestingly, since it was in the '20s, I can only imagine that the Great Depression sealed its fate. There was probably no expendable income to play pool, go bowling, eat out in a restaurant, smoke cigars, and get a manicure.

I am going to see what I can dig up. This Detroit Rec has now piqued my interest! :)

JAM
05-05-2009, 02:53 AM
Crap. I found this: In the
1950s, the Recreation Building still housed
billiard tables and a bowling alley as well as
Silver’s office supply store, Summer’s Good
Food, and the Federal Bar, a drinking
establishment. However, it eventually reached
the end of its useful life and was torn down.
Since then, the site has served the District
Court as a parking lot convenient for visitors
to the federal courthouse.

And this: the "Recreation Building," across the street from the Federal Building. Since the 1930s Federal Building was built on the same site as the 1890's Federal Building, the government needed temporary quarters during the demolition/construction.

I think I found a picture of it. It is the dark-colored brick building in the upper right corner. I need to do some more research later. I've gotta go to work now! I love this kind of stuff.:o

Steve - Detroit
05-05-2009, 04:23 AM
Definitely matches the picture in Mizerak's book although at a different angle. Still in business into the '50's would make sense too if my father had bowled there. I'll ask around at work today and see if anyone remembers hearing any stories about the place.

2oldklings
05-20-2009, 01:07 PM
Detroit Rec eventually had 142 tables(see the 1923 Brunswick catalog), up from the original 103. The top floor was the world's largest bowling alley and if you look at the photo there are arched windows at the top.... the top, inside, was 2 stories tall with a balcony around for spectators watching bowling tourneys and the arched windows were for this balcony area. Before the Rec the largest was the Plankinton Arcade, which the Arcade table was named for, with 60 Arcades. The largest single-floor room as far as I know was the Hudson Recreation which had 70 tables on one floor, although there is a thread showing pics of poolrooms around the world that shows a room in Kansas that the thread claims had 70 tables also. I have been to Shooters in Burnsville and it's very nice! Although visually on the inside it does not look bigger than Shooters in Olathe until you count tables.

MilwShooter
05-20-2009, 02:03 PM
From another thread, it appears there are mega-billiard parlors elsewhere in the world (e.g. someone showed one in St Petersburg, Russia). And there are large ones that used to be in business in the US but are no longer. My place won't be open for about two months, but it appears to be near the top of the list. If anyone could add or correct anything here, that would be good. Let's stick to places that have 45 or more tables.

Largest by number of tables

(1) Shooter's Billiards, Burnsville (Minneapolis) MN -- 64
(2) Fargo Billiards & Gastropub , Fargo, ND ---- 58
(2) Q-Masters, Virginia Beach, VA ---58
(3) Big Dog Billiards, Des Moines, IA -- 50?
(4) Main St. Billiards, Tuscon, AZ -- 47
(5) Chris's, Chicago, IL -- 46?
(6) Country Club USA Chelmsford, MA --46
(7) Two Stooges Bar & Grill, Fridley, MN ---45?



Largest by area

(1) Fargo Billiards & Gastropub, Fargo ND -- 28,536 sq. ft.
(2) Shooters - 22,000
(3) Q-master - 20,000

??


Anybody know of any bigger places or want to add to this list with numbers. [And no, the bowling alley upstairs doesn't count ;-)]

It would be good to get the top ten or so

Romines, in Milwaukee, WI has 51 tables, these include a 12ft snooker table, 2 3cushion tables, and a mix of 8ft. and 9ft tables. as well as 5 or 6 coin-op 7ft tables. I'm taking some pictures tonight for their facebook page, so I'll post them on here tomorrow.

tucson9ball
05-21-2009, 04:13 PM
Lil bump.
Anybody in Phoenix know how many tables Bullshooters has?

Big Dog
05-22-2009, 02:13 AM
Hey Mike, looks like things are coming along. I heard July 4th for an opening date, is that true? I know Rory is one of your instructors, but who else is doing some teaching? I noticed one guy asked what your pool rates were going to be. Do you have a set rate yet in mind?

Hope everything is good up there, and hope to see you guys soon.

JB

gregoryg
05-22-2009, 02:29 AM
The biggest room I know of and have been in is Romine's on south 27th street in Milwaukee, WI. Used to be a former roller skating rink, no poles anywhere!

I believe they have over fifty, 9' Gold Crowns, at least three heated billiard tables, four, maybe more Valley bar boxes, a full service restaurant/bar/dance floor and a small pro shop.

Great place to play, great place to eat, really good food.