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Peter_B
05-04-2009, 05:41 PM
Hey everyone, I've never actually posted here, but I have enjoyed browsing the forums over the last couple months. You guys definitely have a cool community going here and there is clearly tons that has been taught and learned here.

Here's the deal. My mom broke up with her boyfriend, who owned a nice cue, and I've been playing with it for roughly 5 months. I'm not sure what it is, other than it's a Lucasi and it cost $280(maybe someone can identify it from that information). It's pretty kickass, and now he wants it back, but he said I can use it until I buy a new one. Unfortunately for me, I don't even know where to start. I hope that someone can point me in the right direction. I'd love to be able to buy a cue as nice as the one I'm currenty using. I don't know exactly if that's necessarily the best cue I can get for that amount of money. Maybe there is something of better value I can get for around that much. Anyway, I hope you guys can help me out here :)

If anyone has any questions at all, ask away.

Thanks a lot

-Peter

Drew
05-04-2009, 05:47 PM
If you like the lucasi...maybe you might want to consider another lucasi?

They range in price and you can easily find one for less than a c-note. I wouldn't recommend spending much more than a hundred on your first cue. Go to the local pool room and check out what everyone else is playing with. Ask to hit a few balls with other people's cues and find one you like. Then buy a similar cue.

TX Poolnut
05-04-2009, 05:48 PM
First, welcome to the forum!

I think you need to just to a local shop and test hit a few. Hopefully, there is a billiard shop around where you live.

I don't think anything anyone can tell you is gonna help you because it's such a personal preference.

I also think you'll be very happily surprised at what you can get for 300 bucks.

deadstroke7
05-04-2009, 05:49 PM
Decide your price range and then go from there. Under $300 -- Predator, Viking, McDermott, and pretty much anything you can find at mueller's and you will get a pretty good cue. Your probably looking at production cues, so let your sense of style and pocketbook be your guide.

Check out the for sale section of the forums for some nicer upper end custom cues, but you might find a good deal for something that may be in your price range.

IMO - at $300 a predator cue/shaft combo would be your best buy.

FWIW

Chris_Lynch
05-04-2009, 05:57 PM
Did you ask if you can buy the cue from him? Maybe he'll sell it to you a little cheaper since it's used.

Hunter
05-04-2009, 06:03 PM
Hi Peter,

Welcome to the forum!

I would recommend hitting balls with a few different cues before you make a decision. Ask friends to let you try their cues. Find a retailer that will let you try out cues. Track down the people at your local poolroom that sell cues on the secondary market.

What did you like about the Lucasi you were using? Did you like the weight? Was the shaft the right diameter? Was the butt right for your hand? Was the tip soft or hard enough?

Production cues are just great for the occasional player, but if you plan to play seriously, I would think more along the lines of a simple custom cue versus a production cue for several reasons:

1. You can get exactly what you want in a custom cue from the weight to the taper. You can have a tip that you like matched up with a ferrule that gives you the best hit for your style and game. You have a choice of wraps, cue lengths, etc....

2. The workmanship is usually much nicer and sharper on custom cues.

3. The resale will generally be better with a known custom maker than it will be with a production cue.

4. You get to go on a "journey" with the cuemaker you choose, which will give you more of a knowledge about cues than you might currently have.

These are just a couple of reasons I would go with a custom cue. Initially, a sneaky pete or a merry widow are great cues to start with, as you get the hit of a fancy custom without a large initial investment. You can get a custom sneaky for around the same price as the Lucasi you were using, and I think you'll be surprised at the difference. Lucasi isn't a bad production cue, but it's still a production cue.

Good luck and feel free to PM me if you have any questions I can help with!

Regards,

Steve

poolplayer2093
05-04-2009, 06:15 PM
Hey everyone, I've never actually posted here, but I have enjoyed browsing the forums over the last couple months. You guys definitely have a cool community going here and there is clearly tons that has been taught and learned here.

Here's the deal. My mom broke up with her boyfriend, who owned a nice cue, and I've been playing with it for roughly 5 months. I'm not sure what it is, other than it's a Lucasi and it cost $280(maybe someone can identify it from that information). It's pretty kickass, and now he wants it back, but he said I can use it until I buy a new one. Unfortunately for me, I don't even know where to start. I hope that someone can point me in the right direction. I'd love to be able to buy a cue as nice as the one I'm currenty using. I don't know exactly if that's necessarily the best cue I can get for that amount of money. Maybe there is something of better value I can get for around that much. Anyway, I hope you guys can help me out here :)

If anyone has any questions at all, ask away.

Thanks a lot

-Peter

post a picture of the cue. there's plenty of people here i'm sure someone's got one that they'll sell you or one of our az dealers can find you one at a good price

chin0
05-04-2009, 06:38 PM
I personally think there is quite a bit in buying a cue that fits you...

first off, your price range than we can help determine what you could get best bang for the buck.

Two, there is length, weight, type of joint, hit of the cue, size of tip, the type of tip you have on it and whether or not you like a wrap or wrapless cue. It is all personal preference. If you have a general idea of what you want in those specs, it would help yourself decide what you like. Do you like a very fancy cue, or does it not matter if it is a plain jane. If you want an affordable cue that has great features for the price, I'd go contact poolfool about the sneakiest petes that he makes. Great cue for a very good price, not to mention they look awesome. It comes in a variety of different type of wood for the splice. Wood to wood joints, kamui tips, G-10 joint pins.

If you can, find a place where you can shop and test hit with the cue, I would definitely suggest that. Go to your local billiard store and pick out a few cues that you like that are your preference, and test hit them and see which one you like. After you find the model and brand of cue you like, don't purchase it at the store yet. I would check with one of the vendors here online, they might be able to get you a better price, not to mention, if you are going to spend money, mind as well spend it with a fellow forum member. (KOINKID or FAST_N_LOOSE great people to deal with) If you know what you like and the specs you want, you could also post a wanted ad in the FS/Wanted section and see what the rest of the community can bring to your plate.

I know for the price I pay, I love my schmelke, it was less than 100, and I'd prefer it over a few viking and mcdermotts that I hit that were 3 times the price. Good luck in your search for a cue that fits you well. Maybe even your mom's ex-b/f could point you in the right direction to where he purchased the cue (if you guys get a long).

Happy shooting! :)

Chino

14-1StraightMan
05-04-2009, 06:44 PM
post a picture of the cue. there's plenty of people here i'm sure someone's got one that they'll sell you or one of our az dealers can find you one at a good price

All the above comments are right on. Do not dish out big money on a cue unless you are sure that it is the One....
A 300 dollar cue will be a very good cue to start out with. A 300 dollar cue can beat those 2,000 dollar cues in the right hands. Remember that.

pwd72s
05-04-2009, 06:53 PM
First, welcome to the forum!

I think you need to just to a local shop and test hit a few. Hopefully, there is a billiard shop around where you live.

I don't think anything anyone can tell you is gonna help you because it's such a personal preference.

I also think you'll be very happily surprised at what you can get for 300 bucks.

I agree....and it's 300 OR LESS. Once you decide what brand you like, perhaps you could talk your mom into letting you cruise the area pawn shops. I recently picked up a $300 retail McDermott near here for $100, then spent some time steaming dings out of the shaft, having it retipped, etc. A good playing cue, with case...and I have less than 125 in the cue, the case, the new tip, and a few accessories.

cyrex
05-04-2009, 06:57 PM
You could also look around online for the model he has. Greg at Billiard Warehouse has a great selection of Lucasi cues.

Lucasi cues at Billiard Warehouse (http://www.billiardwarehouse.com/cues/lucasi/lucasi_pool_cues.htm)

Crooked Stick
05-04-2009, 07:24 PM
Everybody had good advice and this will repeat some or all of the other post. First off what is your price range? You can get alot of good cues in the $250-$300 range. After that it`s all personal preference. I shot with a Meucci for years before i bought a custom cue. The Meucci was fine but i wanted a custom cue (which is a luxury item by the way). My suggestion would be to try to hit some balls with a variety of cues and see which one(s) you like and then look at what you want to spend and go from there.


CS

Peter_B
05-04-2009, 10:01 PM
Thanks a lot guys for your time and advice! I think my mom and I will head up to Flagstaff(I live in Prescott) and take a look at the billiard shops there. I really like the Lucasi, but it's the only real cue I've ever used, so I don't really know if I'll like other cues in the same price range better. By the way, the cue is this one http://www.billiardwarehouse.com/cues/lucasi/lucasi-l-p30.htm

The Beginner
05-04-2009, 10:18 PM
Lucasi is a nice cue to use...try predator cues or schon cues...can't go wrong with both cues...base on your price range i would say you can't go wrong with those cues from the low end not the high end one...goodluck on your search :)...

Pushout
05-04-2009, 10:52 PM
How long have you played and how often do you play? Whether you are a casual player or want to become a serious player can make a difference in the amount of money you should/could spend on a cue. There are several decent production cues you can choose from. One word of advise, stay away from Predator, at least until you have played considerably longer than I think you probably have. They aren't for everybody, and if you start off with one it may be quite a bit harder to change to something else. Again, they aren't for everybody.
Good luck!

rackem
05-05-2009, 12:18 AM
I would suggest that you try one of these: :thumbup:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=137726
These cues play real nice and will suit you just fine as you learn to play. :thumbup2:
I have sold many a poolplayer their first pool cue. :yeah:

poolnoob
05-05-2009, 12:38 AM
Go with Mezz, see the link.

http://www.poolfanatic.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=13278

JesPiddlin
05-05-2009, 01:53 AM
Welcome to the forum, Peter.

My first cue buy was for something like $60, or less. It was a production cue sold down at the local pool hall. I think the one thing I learned from that buy was to buy a cue that is the weight I am used to and comfortable with. As time goes by, that will change and you can adjust. But, the weight is probably the first thing I'd think of in buying my first cue, if I had it to do over, again. You can add or remove weights from a lot of cues, so you might check the cue before you buy it, if you think you might want to be able to adjust the weight.

Lots of great advice in this thread. I won't repeat it all. Just wanted to mention the weight. I have a bad wrist and anything over 16 ounces is too heavy for me, anymore.

By the way... the cue in the link you posted is beautiful.

Enjoy your new cue, when you buy it! And, enjoy the forum, too!

Mr Hoppe
05-05-2009, 08:56 AM
IMO, these Pechauers (http://www.billiardwarehouse.com/cues/pechauer/pechauer_jp_series.htm) represent the best value for the dollar in the $200-$300 price range. Very nice cues for the buck.
Good luck.
Mr H

mikeyfrost
05-05-2009, 09:02 AM
Best thing you can do is to ask people to hit a few balls with their cues. You should try to take a couple notes on each cue and how you felt about it. Aftewards buy a similar one and you won't have any buyers remorse. Only problem is youll find that lots of cues are great, then you end up with a collection and can't figure out how you got there.

3Bros Billiards
05-05-2009, 09:04 AM
I would recommend Lucasi or Viking. These are both excellent cues for the money. Since you already have experience with a Lucasi it might feel a bit more natural to you. If you buy from us we have some great deals on free cases and shipping going, especially with the Lucasi's.

poolfoole
05-05-2009, 09:21 AM
If you like the Lucasi, maybe you should get another Lucasi. If you order a cue from many of the online retailers, they'll give you a money back guarantee on whatever cue you decide to buy. If you don't like, you can ship and back and exchange it for another cue.

Pooldawg gives you a 60 day money back no hassle guarantee. That's where I buy almost all my pool gear from. I bought my current shooting cue, break cue, and jump cue from them.
http://www.pooldawg.com

I bought this Mezz cue from pooldawg last december. $436 and a damn good cue.
http://www.pooldawg.com/product/1275/11511

I love my Mezz cue, as they are high quality cues and very reasonably priced.
http://www.pooldawg.com/brand/mezz/pool-cues


Hey everyone, I've never actually posted here, but I have enjoyed browsing the forums over the last couple months. You guys definitely have a cool community going here and there is clearly tons that has been taught and learned here.

Here's the deal. My mom broke up with her boyfriend, who owned a nice cue, and I've been playing with it for roughly 5 months. I'm not sure what it is, other than it's a Lucasi and it cost $280(maybe someone can identify it from that information). It's pretty kickass, and now he wants it back, but he said I can use it until I buy a new one. Unfortunately for me, I don't even know where to start. I hope that someone can point me in the right direction. I'd love to be able to buy a cue as nice as the one I'm currenty using. I don't know exactly if that's necessarily the best cue I can get for that amount of money. Maybe there is something of better value I can get for around that much. Anyway, I hope you guys can help me out here :)

If anyone has any questions at all, ask away.

Thanks a lot

-Peter

rayjay
05-05-2009, 09:55 AM
There's a limited edition (1 of 25?) Lucasi in the Wanted/For Sale Forum for $125 shipped. http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=140958&highlight=lucasi
Mate that to a Predator shaft ($150-175 or less) and you'll have a sweet player!
:p

"T"
05-05-2009, 10:30 AM
Anything with a commonly used joint and you should be in good shape both short term and long. It'll be easier to upgrade if you should want to.

Vikings and Lucasi are both pretty good choices.

If you're thinking about a different cue than the Lucasi, you might want to think about whether you want a wrap or wrapless. A totally subjective thing. If your hands sweat a lot, then you'd probably be better off with a wrap. If your hands tends to be relatively dry, a wrapless might be the way to go.

Good luck!

Cue Guru
05-05-2009, 10:59 AM
I hod posted a nice reply for you here, but it got lost somewhere in the internet...

Anyway, feel free to send a PM or e-mail and I'll be happy to help you with your decision!

While you have the Lucassi in your possesion, get all the dimensional and weight details as that information will help you a lot moving forward.

Good luck!

manwon
05-05-2009, 11:05 AM
Hey everyone, I've never actually posted here, but I have enjoyed browsing the forums over the last couple months. You guys definitely have a cool community going here and there is clearly tons that has been taught and learned here.

Here's the deal. My mom broke up with her boyfriend, who owned a nice cue, and I've been playing with it for roughly 5 months. I'm not sure what it is, other than it's a Lucasi and it cost $280(maybe someone can identify it from that information). It's pretty kickass, and now he wants it back, but he said I can use it until I buy a new one. Unfortunately for me, I don't even know where to start. I hope that someone can point me in the right direction. I'd love to be able to buy a cue as nice as the one I'm currenty using. I don't know exactly if that's necessarily the best cue I can get for that amount of money. Maybe there is something of better value I can get for around that much. Anyway, I hope you guys can help me out here :)

If anyone has any questions at all, ask away.

Thanks a lot

-Peter

Pete, all I can say you do not have to spend a great deal of money on your first cue. Stay away from designs and focus as much as possible on a cues playability. Lucas cues are starter cues, for the money along with McDermott's and many others. Below is a link to website where you can buy almost anything you would like. The people are honest and their customer service is great, in addition their prices are hard to beat anywhere on the INTERNET.

http://www.billiardwarehouse.com/cues/lucasi/lucasi_pool_cues.htm

Good Luck

TheBook
05-05-2009, 02:43 PM
I am assuming from your post you are under 18. I don't know what kind of player that you are but $300 for a cue at your age doesn't seem necessary. Also it is easy to get impressed by the "expensive" cue that your mother's boyfriend has.

When I was a kid I was impressed by a 4 piece cue that had a lot of washers in the joints to adjust the weight.

Take your time and keep doing the research like you are now doing. Don't jump on anything just to have a cue.

Keep playing with that cue. I don't know who broke up with who or what your feelings were about that guy but I think his motive is a reason to still have a "in" with your mother.

grindz
05-05-2009, 04:37 PM
Thanks a lot guys for your time and advice! I think my mom and I will head up to Flagstaff(I live in Prescott) and take a look at the billiard shops there. I really like the Lucasi, but it's the only real cue I've ever used, so I don't really know if I'll like other cues in the same price range better. By the way, the cue is this one http://www.billiardwarehouse.com/cues/lucasi/lucasi-l-p30.htm

Pater,

I have a new L-E56 which I got for my daughter about 2 years ago. She is no longer interested. Never played with 19 oz. if that is the one you like, I can make you a deal.

td

mamono
05-05-2009, 07:01 PM
I've used a Lucasi for a few years in the last 90's. Very nice cue, IMHO. Post pictures of the Lucasi that you are currently using so that we can see what type of joint and features that you might be interested in. That might help in the suggestions. Do you have access to a weight scale to weight both the shaft and the butt end of the cue? Ask the owner what type of tip and ferrule is on the cue if he changed it. Might help with getting your future cue to hit the same or similar.

If you are on a limited budget, considering a J&J Jump/Break cue, Model# 4410 or # 4414. I personally have a Model# 4414 and its a great playing cue as well as jump and break. I use an Aegis ferrule with a triangle tip on it. J&J has both break shafts and regular shafts for this cue. I use regular shafts. For a little extra, you can get a spare shaft in case the tip comes off or the ferrule cracks. The stock 5th avenue tip and the original PVC ferrule on the regular playing shaft isn't too bad for normal play.

My 1st cue was a J&J model# 3613, no long in production but was a great playing cue for starting out with and learning about shaft and tip/ferrule maintenance. I still have that cue and plan to take it to the grave with me.

alstl
05-05-2009, 07:45 PM
Lucasi isn't a bad cue. You should be able to find one for less than $280. For that price range I would get a no frills Schon. The Schon has a better reputation and better resale value than the Lucasi.

But that's only my opinion and I can barely run two balls.

Peter_B
05-05-2009, 10:20 PM
How long have you played and how often do you play? Whether you are a casual player or want to become a serious player can make a difference in the amount of money you should/could spend on a cue. There are several decent production cues you can choose from. One word of advise, stay away from Predator, at least until you have played considerably longer than I think you probably have. They aren't for everybody, and if you start off with one it may be quite a bit harder to change to something else. Again, they aren't for everybody.
Good luck!

I've been somewhat exposed to pool since I was about 9 or 10(I turned 16 yesterday, for reference), but I've really started picking up my frequency and level of play over the last year or so. I made a decision that I want to be a serious player and hopefully make a living out of it(as hard as I'm sure that is). I play as much as I possibly can, which is usually 3-6 hours on Saturday and another 3-6 on Sunday. During the week it's a little tougher to get out, since I'm at school, but I sneak in a good 5 or 6 hours during the week, often neglecting my homework :wink:. I'm probably not a good player by the standards on here, but I'm hard pressed to find somone at the bars I go to(with parental supervision) who can beat me consistantly. I can run out a rack of 8 ball and 9 ball, although not terrificly often(maybe 5%). Also, what's the deal with Predator? I've heard they have low deflection shafts??

Pushout
05-05-2009, 10:33 PM
Also, what's the deal with Predator? I've heard they have low deflection shafts??

They do. But, low deflection shafts don't play well for some people. The general opinion is you either love them or hate them. They just aren't something I would suggest you buy unless you've had a chance to play with one for several hours, at least. They "feel" a lot different. There are a lot of people here who swear by them and others who don't. I played with one on a Joss sneaky pete butt for several months and did not play well with it. A friend from PA bought one at the same time, had the same experience. If you buy a decent production cue, you can switch to a predator shaft later if you really want to. They can be made to fit about anything. If you like steel joints, I'd suggest Schon or Joss. Schon makes great cues, I just don't like the hit, personally. Joss also makes a wood to wood joint, now. Look around, try several different cues, then check online for the best price on the one you like.

manwon
05-05-2009, 10:40 PM
I've been somewhat exposed to pool since I was about 9 or 10(I turned 16 yesterday, for reference), but I've really started picking up my frequency and level of play over the last year or so. I made a decision that I want to be a serious player and hopefully make a living out of it(as hard as I'm sure that is). I play as much as I possibly can, which is usually 3-6 hours on Saturday and another 3-6 on Sunday. During the week it's a little tougher to get out, since I'm at school, but I sneak in a good 5 or 6 hours during the week, often neglecting my homework :wink:. I'm probably not a good player by the standards on here, but I'm hard pressed to find somone at the bars I go to(with parental supervision) who can beat me consistantly. I can run out a rack of 8 ball and 9 ball, although not terrificly often(maybe 5%). Also, what's the deal with Predator? I've heard they have low deflection shafts??

Pete, I really like your attitude and I do believe you for some reason I do not know why that you have what it takes to be a Great player some day. I also find it refreshing to find a younger poster on this forum who presents himself in the manner that you have done here.

So save your money and send me a Pm with your adress and I will send you a new cue and a case for free, the only strings attached are that if you ever become famous you have to promise that you will wear a patch with the name of my Pool Room and retail store when playing in the Pro-events.

I am serious so get your address to me, so that we can get you set up to kick some butt!!!.


Hope to here from soon and Happy Birthday!!

Take Care Craig

chin0
05-05-2009, 10:49 PM
Pete, I really like your attitude and I do believe you for some reason I do not know why that you have what it takes to be a Great player some day. I also find it refreshing to find a younger poster on this forum who presents himself in the manner that you have done here.

So save your money and send me a Pm with your adress and I will send you a new cue and a case for free, the only strings attached are that if you ever become famous you have to promise that you will wear a patch with the name of my Pool Room and retail store when playing in the Pro-events.

I am serious so get your address to me, so that we can get you set up to kick some butt!!!.


Hope to here from soon and Happy Birthday!!

Take Care Craig

Manwon, hats off to you good sir. Rep is in your box, your generosity is a great thing to see in our world today. May I suggest also, one day when Pete gets older and is in good financial position and he see a spitting image of himself in some youngster in the position he is in right now, he would pass on the generosity shown to him? :thumbup:

Peter_B
05-05-2009, 11:00 PM
Pete, I really like your attitude and I do believe you for some reason I do not know why that you have what it takes to be a Great player some day. I also find it refreshing to find a younger poster on this forum who presents himself in the manner that you have done here.

So save your money and send me a Pm with your adress and I will send you a new cue and a case for free, the only strings attached are that if you ever become famous you have to promise that you will wear a patch with the name of my Pool Room and retail store when playing in the Pro-events.

I am serious so get your address to me, so that we can get you set up to kick some butt!!!.


Hope to here from soon and Happy Birthday!!

Take Care Craig

I'd just like to extend my gratitude to you publicly. Thank you so much Craig, I feel like I'm just starting a new chapter in my pool game, as well as in my life, and I feel so lucky to have even strangers like you supporting me in my journey to be a better player. Thanks again!

pwd72s
05-06-2009, 12:58 AM
Craig...don't forget to include that patch! I expect we may see it on live stream in a few short years. A tip of my hat to you!:grin:

manwon
05-06-2009, 01:23 AM
Craig...don't forget to include that patch! I expect we may see it on live stream in a few short years. A tip of my hat to you!:grin:

I am just glad I could help, and I like Peter's attitude he is up front and honest,, and I find that very refreshing on the Internet!!!!!

Take care

poolplayer2093
05-06-2009, 02:31 AM
If you like the Lucasi, maybe you should get another Lucasi. If you order a cue from many of the online retailers, they'll give you a money back guarantee on whatever cue you decide to buy. If you don't like, you can ship and back and exchange it for another cue.

Pooldawg gives you a 60 day money back no hassle guarantee. That's where I buy almost all my pool gear from. I bought my current shooting cue, break cue, and jump cue from them.
http://www.pooldawg.com

I bought this Mezz cue from pooldawg last december. $436 and a damn good cue.
http://www.pooldawg.com/product/1275/11511

I love my Mezz cue, as they are high quality cues and very reasonably priced.
http://www.pooldawg.com/brand/mezz/pool-cues

I'll second that!!!!!

poolplayer2093
05-06-2009, 02:34 AM
I am just glad I could help, and I like Peter's attitude he is up front and honest,, and I find that very refreshing on the Internet!!!!!

Take care

for those of you that didn't know, now you know. Craig's cool as cash

Cue Guru
05-06-2009, 04:41 AM
Great to see that!

Best of luck to both of you!:thumbup:

manwon
05-11-2009, 11:52 PM
The cues and case I sent arrived today, and Peter is very happy, below is the thread.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=142120

pwd72s
05-11-2009, 11:56 PM
Craig, "you done good"! Living in the Cascades, you must know that is high praise in logging speak...:grin: