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JAM
05-09-2009, 04:04 PM
Today at 2:30 p.m., I am sad to relay the passing of Vernon Elliott, one of the greatest gamblers of all time.

He was a notorious road man and known to have won large amounts of money and other things. Vernon could tell some great pool tales.

Vernon and Buddy Hall used to be road partners together and are very good friends. Buddy Hall decided to go the tournament soldier route, and Vernon wanted to fly under the radar. There's a funny story about Buddy going AWOL and meeting up with Vernon. Buddy eventually returned, but he had a hell of good time and still has fond memories of his road trips with Vernon.

RIP, Vernon Elliott. My deepest sympathies to the Elliott family and his many friends.

deep
05-09-2009, 04:06 PM
Very sad news indeed.........:frown:

JAM
05-09-2009, 04:10 PM
Vernon Elliott was inducted into the One-Pocket Hall of Fame in 2006. I am so happy he got to enjoy this great honor!

Here's a great picture of him, which is on the Onepocket.org website: http://onepocket.org/ElliottHOF.htm

This picture was copy-and-pasted form Onepocket.org and was taken by PoolPics by Hoppe (Diana Hoppe).

JAM
05-09-2009, 04:23 PM
Hopefully, some folks will post up some Vernon Elliott memories. He loved pool so very much.

putt-putt44
05-09-2009, 05:22 PM
So sad,,,,another pool icon leaves us,,,,

i hope freddy chimes in with a few great stories on he and vernon,,,,,,,,,,,

DoubleA
05-09-2009, 05:57 PM
I knew Vernon for many years, he could do things on a pool table that mortals simply could not. Very, very sad news.

deanoc
05-09-2009, 07:40 PM
if stories are wanted,in 1973 Vernon posed as a contactor and called on me at my real estate office,it wasn't too long until we matched up to play some one pocket,I had a check in my pocket for $500 made out to me or George Balabushka,I was undecided whether or not I wanted to buy such an expensive cue,Vernon relieved me of the decision by banking balls in all day.I say all day,but it was more like 30 minutes.

Years later he had aged to the point that i didn't recognize him,he had been away for a while.He came to CJ Wileys and offered me 2 pick and the pop at one hole.I thought I had the nuts,but it turned out I didn't.He was a master of his craft.

dr9ball
05-09-2009, 10:38 PM
Tragedy befalls us again. Yet another old road soldier gone to rest with the legends. A salute to Vernon. Thanks for the memories. God Bless and Keep you.

Tennesseejoe
05-09-2009, 10:46 PM
I didn't now Vernon is his great years but did met him in his later years and at his HOF induction. He showed dignity and respect to an admirer and had stories for every name I mentioned.

His fantistic proposition banks are legend that some are proud to reproduce but none are with the talent to invent.

With all due respect---Tennessee Joe

JAM
05-10-2009, 02:52 AM
I was told that Vernon suffered from heart problems, and from what was relayed to me, that is how he passed, complications with his heart.

I am so happy he is in the One-Pocket Hall of Fame. He will always be remembered in the pool world for his great story-telling, good sense of humor, and, of course, his strength on a field of green.

jay helfert
05-10-2009, 06:36 AM
Too bad no one has any photos of the young Vernon Elliott. He was a handsome young man. I first met him at Johnston City in the 60's. He was with old man Spivey laying down trap after trap, and taking off some pretty good players. He was a notch above the rest when it came to hustling.

dirtybobjr
05-10-2009, 06:50 AM
Today at 2:30 p.m., I am sad to relay the passing of Vernon Elliott, one of the greatest gamblers of all time.

He was a notorious road man and known to have won large amounts of money and other things. Vernon could tell some great pool tales.

Vernon and Buddy Hall used to be road partners together and are very good friends. Buddy Hall decided to go the tournament soldier route, and Vernon wanted to fly under the radar. There's a funny story about Buddy going AWOL and meeting up with Vernon. Buddy eventually returned, but he had a hell of good time and still has fond memories of his road trips with Vernon.

RIP, Vernon Elliott. My deepest sympathies to the Elliott family and his many friends.


I had the pleasure of meeting Mr. Elliot on a couple occasions. He is a legend and very few people knew who he was until after he took their money. I'm looking forward to a lot of great stories on this thread.

May he Rest In Peace.

Pushout
05-10-2009, 08:17 AM
Damn! Another legend has left us. I doubt we will see the like of many of them, ever again. RIP.

freddy the beard
05-10-2009, 09:57 AM
Too bad no one has any photos of the young Vernon Elliott. He was a handsome young man. I first met him at Johnston City in the 60's. He was with old man Spivey laying down trap after trap, and taking off some pretty good players. He was a notch above the rest when it came to hustling.

I have a few pics of the young Vernon sent to me years ago by his friend Doug Wood. I'll tell a few tales later on when I feel a little better. This morning his son, and then his friend Doug called me. Truman Hogue another dear pal of Vernon's left me a message on the answering machine. I'll call him later and reminisce with him, and probably Wade Crane too. I'm sure they feel as badly as I do. Diana Hoppe was also very disturbed by it, and we talked too. It aint no secret that Vernon and I were good pals. His son broke me up when he said they were going to bury him in the Bank on Brother cap that I signed and sent to him years ago. For now I'll just say this, you aint gonna see his like for a good while. He did things that made Buddy Hall and Eddie Taylor gasp. Good-bye old friend, it was great just getting to hang with you out on the trail.

the Beard

JAM
05-10-2009, 10:37 AM
I have a few pics of the young Vernon sent to me years ago by his friend Doug Wood. I'll tell a few tales later on when I feel a little better. This morning his son, and then his friend Doug called me. Truman Hogue another dear pal of Vernon's left me a message on the answering machine. I'll call him later and reminisce with him, and probably Wade Crane too. I'm sure they feel as badly as I do. Diana Hoppe was also very disturbed by it, and we talked too. It aint no secret that Vernon and I were good pals. His son broke me up when he said they were going to bury him in the Bank on Brother cap that I signed and sent to him years ago. For now I'll just say this, you aint gonna see his like for a good while. He did things that made Buddy Hall and Eddie Taylor gasp. Good-bye old friend, it was great just getting to hang with you out on the trail.

the Beard


I am so sorry for your loss, Freddy. Vernon was very fortunate to have you as his friend.

Keith McCready
05-10-2009, 11:05 AM
I am really sad to hear about Vernon Elliott. I consider him a good friend of mine. I knew he was sick. God bless him. He was one of the better guys in the pool business. There's probably a lot of people that don't know who Vernon was, but I had the privilege of knowing him as a nice person, good heart, and a bar table champion, as well as a bank pool champion, one of the best bankers I've ever seen for the money. That's one thing Vernon could do is play for the dough.

I think it was in the early '80s or thereabouts when I was over there in Knoxville during the World's Fair. I was sneaking in around from bar to bar to bar, trying to stir up some action. I made a few good scores and was feeling my oats.

The first time I ever met Vernon Elliott was during this time. I stepped into one bar with only about three or four people in it. They had a few bar tables in there. I said, "Where's all the action around here?" hoping I'd get a nibble. Boy, did I ever get the big kahuna.

Vernon, unbeknownst to me, said, "I'll play you some," and I asked him what do you want to play for. He said, "I'll play you some, fifty or a hundred a game." I looked at this guy and thought I was stealing because Vernon didn't look like a pool player to me. Was I ever mistaken. LOL.

He got up there, run a 5-pack for 50 a game. I asked him if he wanted to bet a 100, hoping that he might start missing balls. He laughed at me and said, "Bet." Well, he got up and run another 7 and broke me. So I went and got some more money and came back. All I could round up was another 500. Well, he ran 5 more racks. He put me into a complete coma. That was my introduction to Vernon Elliott.

We talked some at the bar and he let me snap him back for a hundred, so I had a little walking money to go hustle some more bars, but I sad to myself right then and there that I would be leaving Vernon alone and he wouldn't be on my hit list. We actually became good friends after that. I watched him over there in Detroit betting as high as you could fly, some of the best pool I've seen for the money, and I'm talking about big money, not just 5 and 10,000 a set. They were playing 15 and 20,000 a game. That was Vernon Elliott.

Rest in peace, Vernon. You will be missed.

Fatboy
05-10-2009, 01:57 PM
I am really sad to hear about Vernon Elliott. I consider him a good friend of mine. I knew he was sick. God bless him. He was one of the better guys in the pool business. There's probably a lot of people that don't know who Vernon was, but I had the privilege of knowing him as a nice person, good heart, and a bar table champion, as well as a bank pool champion, one of the best bankers I've ever seen for the money. That's one thing Vernon could do is play for the dough.

I think it was in the early '80s or thereabouts when I was over there in Knoxville during the World's Fair. I was sneaking in around from bar to bar to bar, trying to stir up some action. I made a few good scores and was feeling my oats.

The first time I ever met Vernon Elliott was during this time. I stepped into one bar with only about three or four people in it. They had a few bar tables in there. I said, "Where's all the action around here?" hoping I'd get a nibble. Boy, did I ever get the big kahuna.

Vernon, unbeknownst to me, said, "I'll play you some," and I asked him what do you want to play for. He said, "I'll play you some, fifty or a hundred a game." I looked at this guy and thought I was stealing because Vernon didn't look like a pool player to me. Was I ever mistaken. LOL.

He got up there, run a 5-pack for 50 a game. I asked him if he wanted to bet a 100, hoping that he might start missing balls. He laughed at me and said, "Bet." Well, he got up and run another 7 and broke me. So I went and got some more money and came back. All I could round up was another 500. Well, he ran 5 more racks. He put me into a complete coma. That was my introduction to Vernon Elliott.

We talked some at the bar and he let me snap him back for a hundred, so I had a little walking money to go hustle some more bars, but I sad to myself right then and there that I would be leaving Vernon alone and he wouldn't be on my hit list. We actually became good friends after that. I watched him over there in Detroit betting as high as you could fly, some of the best pool I've seen for the money, and I'm talking about big money, not just 5 and 10,000 a set. They were playing 15 and 20,000 a game. That was Vernon Elliott.

Rest in peace, Vernon. You will be missed.


Thanks for the story Keith, I'm laying 7-5 JAMMY typed it for you, but seriously thanks for sharing that, Its tough to lose friends. We were talking about him at dinner lat nite at the Riv, me, Bobby LeBlanc(cotton), JA and a couple other players.
my best you,
eric

JAM
05-10-2009, 02:11 PM
Thanks for the story Keith, I'm laying 7-5 JAMMY typed it for you, but seriously thanks for sharing that, Its tough to lose friends. We were talking about him at dinner lat nite at the Riv, me, Bobby LeBlanc(cotton), JA and a couple other players.
my best you,
eric

Haven't you heard? Why, I am the great Keith McCready. Do you really think he exists? Don't look behind that curtain.

houmatroy
05-10-2009, 11:16 PM
I never seen him play in his prime..to tell u the truth I've only see him actually play twice..."was quite impressed both times"....both were well after his prime but you could tell even tho he was past his so call prime it was still better than most people will ever reach...prime or no prime.

Scott Lee
05-11-2009, 01:11 AM
I was also there for the induction dinner, and met Vernon too. I've heard some amazing stories about his play! I've seen Joe Tucker shoot some of Vernon's 'impossible' banks...simply amazing!

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

I didn't now Vernon is his great years but did met him in his later years and at his HOF induction. He showed dignity and respect to an admirer and had stories for every name I mentioned.

His fantistic proposition banks are legend that some are proud to reproduce but none are with the talent to invent.

With all due respect---Tennessee Joe

Grady
05-11-2009, 06:50 AM
I'm glad that Vernon got inducted into the HOF before he died. He raised a family as a gambling pool player, without any entitlements, as far as I know. When people like Freddie, Buddy, Jam and Keith use superlatives, that says it all.
If Diana Hoppe, hint hint hint, ever finishes her road warrior dvd, you'll be able to hear Vernon tell stories from yesteryear.
Well, RIP, my friend and maybe God is up for a friendly game of banks?

the420trooper
05-11-2009, 07:14 AM
Here's one of the ridiculous, impossible bank shots that originated with Vernon Elliot....He will be missed by the pool world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr5o1-mFfpk

Great shot, sir....RIP.

JAM
05-11-2009, 07:21 AM
Here's one of the ridiculous, impossible bank shots that originated with Vernon Elliot....He will be missed by the pool world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr5o1-mFfpk

Great shot, sir....RIP.

Holy cross-banks, that was unreal. Thanks for sharing that.

RIP, Vernon Elliott! What a shooter, what a guy. He is definitely an American unsung pool champion.

buzzsaw
05-11-2009, 08:21 AM
Vernon would slip into Indy every once in a while. Unfortunately for him most of the pool players knew him. But he was not above taking a new comer to the game and giving them advice. I was the recipient of that advice a few times.

spktur
05-14-2009, 06:31 AM
More thoughts and stories from those who knew him well would be appreciated.

JAM
05-14-2009, 06:37 AM
More thoughts and stories from those who knew him well would be appreciated.

There is a very nice write-up by AzBilliards on the Main Page: http://www.azbilliards.com/2000storya.php?storynum=6527

I was wondernig about how his family is dealing with the loss. My heart goes out to them, as well as his close friends. I guess it is too hard for them to share on this thread at this time, so close to his passing. :(

Picture by Diana Hoppe of Poolpics by Hoppe, taken at the DCC.

freddy the beard
05-15-2009, 07:33 AM
Talked to Truman Hogue and Wade Crane yesterday. They were very affected by Vernon's passing. They had been trying to find a way to become pall bearers at his funeral.

the Beard

two of my favorite pics from Vernons HOF induction in 2007

Drawman623
05-15-2009, 06:51 PM
Thanks to Onepocket.org and the fine people who run that outfit, I had the honor of meeting Mr Elliott. With good custodians of our pool traditions and rich history, people like Vernon will be remembered.

philw
05-15-2009, 07:47 PM
I'm glad that Vernon got inducted into the HOF before he died. He raised a family as a gambling pool player, without any entitlements, as far as I know. When people like Freddie, Buddy, Jam and Keith use superlatives, that says it all.
If Diana Hoppe, hint hint hint, ever finishes her road warrior dvd, you'll be able to hear Vernon tell stories from yesteryear.
Well, RIP, my friend and maybe God is up for a friendly game of banks?

Grady, word on the street is God is asking for weight.

JAM
05-16-2009, 02:56 AM
RINGGOLD Vernon Edwin Elliott Sr., 71, departed this life Saturday, May 9, 2009.

He was born in Taylor County, Ky., to the late Herman Reid and Virgie Hines Elliott, and was preceded in death by his brother, Kenneth R. Elliott.

He was an avid Billiards player and was inducted into Billiards Hall of Fame.

Survivors include his children, Stacy Elliott, Vernon Elliott Jr., Nora Elliott, David Elliott, all of Louisville, Ky., Kendrick Elliott, of Ringgold, Lisa Oxford, of East Ridge; siblings, Ivadean Alvey, of Gary, Ind., Mitchell Elliott, of Waynesburg, Ky.; 13 grandchildren; four great-grandchildren; lifelong friend, Erica Elliott; and several nieces and nephews.

Family will receive friends noon today, and all day Thursday at W.L. Wilson & Sons Funeral Home in Fort Oglethorpe.

Services will be held 1 p.m. Saturday, May 16, 2009, at Bartle Funeral Home in Liberty, Ky.

Interment will follow in Salyers Cemetery in Waynesburg, Ky.

Arrangements are by W.L. Wilson & Sons Funeral Home, Fort Oglethorpe.

My deepest sympathies to the family and friends of Vernon Elliott.

poolsucker
05-16-2009, 04:38 AM
My favorite story of vern is, when he was playing around putting the cue ball in back corner pocket and trying to back cut the ball on spot dawn hopkins saw him trying to make this shot and told him it was immpossible. he said would you give me 10 tries for a G. she says yes, he misses bady the first few trys and gets it closer and closer and makes it on the 8 try. then says, I dont want to take your money dawn, I'll tell u what' I bet double or nothing on 1 try. she accepts and he makes it. end of story.