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Johnnyt
05-10-2009, 09:50 AM
I really shouldnít let the Johnnyt is a BS artist bother me, but it does a little bit. No Iím not well known like Jay or Freddy the Beard who played just about all comers, and I didnít want to be. I wasnít as good as of them either. I have admitted time and time again on here that if I knew a place where top players from the area and tough action wasÖI avoided it like the Plague. I wasnít playing pool to bang heads with players I couldnít or probably couldnít beat. I was in it purely for the money. Yes I loved the game, loved the hustle, but making money at it always came first for me. If you were seen playing with well-known top money players (even if you lost to them) the easy action would dry up very fast. If thatís a nit in your book, so be it.

I have played many top players over the years like Buddy Hall, Mike S, Allen Hopkins, C M Lee, and many more, both men and women pros. Like I said in many threads on here over the years, I mostly only played them after I made a good score at the dog or horse track. Never out of pool winnings. Pool winnings always got reinvested quickly for something of value or resale value. If any of them want to come forward that would be fine.

Iíve stated on here before that I always reinvested my pool winnings on something of value. Iíve also stated I owned or was partners on a little less than 200 Racing Greyhounds, that ranged in price from $2500 to $26,000 each. I am a partner in ownership still on Dodgem By Design, the second top-producing stud dog in the world. He has brought in over $700,000 in racing winnings and stud fees so far. We paid $24,500 for him at the National Greyhound Auction if I remember right. Most Greyhound players have seen my name (John W. Terrell) in the programs at many Greyhound tracks around the country. Iím sure Charter Kennel, Red Rock Kennel, Marriott Kennel, just to name three out of probably 30 kennels Iíve had dogs with and Iím sure will vouch for me.

Over the years Iíve staked some top players 50/50 and many more both male and female that I just helped with expenses to enter and travel to tournaments, asking for nothing in return. Some are members of AZ, most are not to my knowledge.

I said on here that I did some writing. Go to Amazon.com and other online bookstores and you will find my work. The story ďHustling Under the RadarĒ is a true story, the rest are mostly fiction.

As far as anything mob related that I said on hereÖforget about it, Iím not going there. Johnnyt

JAM
05-10-2009, 09:52 AM
What happened? Did somebody make an unsavory comment about you in another thread?

FWIW, I always thought of you as a stand-up kind of guy! :)

Pushout
05-10-2009, 10:12 AM
What happened? Did somebody make an unsavory comment about you in another thread?


Yeah, somebody I've had on ignore since about the first day I encountered him. Big whoop!!

ShootingArts
05-10-2009, 10:21 AM
Johnny,

I too played pool for the money. I enjoyed the game but I enjoyed making money at it more. Although I played a few top players it was because they came to me, I didn't go looking for them. Early in my gambling days I made the mistake of getting into tough action at Greenway. It was all the buzz every time I visited my usual haunts up and down Plank and Airline for a few weeks and action was thinner than thin. There was always somebody that had been at Greenway or heard about it to clue in their buddies. I had to go to the far reaches of my usual 50-75 mile radius to find a game. I took the lesson to heart and never showed any speed at Greenway again!

I don't have anything to prove to anyone. If I am in the mood to talk on here I do. Folks can believe or disbelieve, no skin off of my bottom. I advise taking the same attitude yourself. There will always be scoffers.

Hu



I really shouldnít let the Johnnyt is a BS artist bother me, but it does a little bit. No Iím not well known like Jay or Freddy the Beard who played just about all comers, and I didnít want to be. I wasnít as good as of them either. I have admitted time and time again on here that if I knew a place where top players from the area and tough action wasÖI avoided it like the Plague. I wasnít playing pool to bang heads with players I couldnít or probably couldnít beat. I was in it purely for the money. Yes I loved the game, loved the hustle, but making money at it always came first for me. If you were seen playing with well-known top money players (even if you lost to them) the easy action would dry up very fast. If thatís a nit in your book, so be it.

I have played many top players over the years like Buddy Hall, Mike S, Allen Hopkins, C M Lee, and many more, both men and women pros. Like I said in many threads on here over the years, I mostly only played them after I made a good score at the dog or horse track. Never out of pool winnings. Pool winnings always got reinvested quickly for something of value or resale value. If any of them want to come forward that would be fine.

Iíve stated on here before that I always reinvested my pool winnings on something of value. Iíve also stated I owned or was partners on a little less than 200 Racing Greyhounds, that ranged in price from $2500 to $26,000 each. I am a partner in ownership still on Dodgem By Design, the second top-producing stud dog in the world. He has brought in over $700,000 in racing winnings and stud fees so far. We paid $24,500 for him at the National Greyhound Auction if I remember right. Most Greyhound players have seen my name (John W. Terrell) in the programs at many Greyhound tracks around the country. Iím sure Charter Kennel, Red Rock Kennel, Marriott Kennel, just to name three out of probably 30 kennels Iíve had dogs with and Iím sure will vouch for me.

Over the years Iíve staked some top players 50/50 and many more both male and female that I just helped with expenses to enter and travel to tournaments, asking for nothing in return. Some are members of AZ, most are not to my knowledge.

I said on here that I did some writing. Go to Amazon.com and other online bookstores and you will find my work. The story ďHustling Under the RadarĒ is a true story, the rest are mostly fiction.

As far as anything mob related that I said on hereÖforget about it, Iím not going there. Johnnyt

bfdlad
05-10-2009, 11:16 AM
I didn't see what was said and in what thread it was on. This is the only time I know that someone has said something negative about JohnnyT. Maybe there is a reason for that. I know Johnny only from here but has always seemed like a good, knowlegable guy that does not try to start fights. I have nothing but respect for him as I do many others who post one here. I just wanted to make that point of my own opinion of JohnnyT, I have no idea who made these comments about you but just like alot of posts on here you can't take em too personal.

sfleinen
05-10-2009, 11:36 AM
What happened? Did somebody make an unsavory comment about you in another thread?

FWIW, I always thought of you as a stand-up kind of guy! :)

Methinks it was this thread:

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=140034

I personally don't think JT was bs'ing *at all* -- I think it was a nice achievement on JT's part, and my post genuinely (and in places, humorously) congratulated him on a job well done. However, a "knight who says 'nay'" followed-up my post. :(

JT: just to avoid situations like this in the future, you might want to capture these runs on video and post the link. Those "knights who say 'nay'" will then have nothing to say. :)

-Sean

JAM
05-10-2009, 11:44 AM
Methinks it was this thread:

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=140034

I personally don't think JT was bs'ing *at all* -- I think it was a nice achievement on JT's part, and my post genuinely (and in places, humorously) congratulated him on a job well done. However, a "knight who says 'nay'" followed-up my post. :(

JT: just to avoid situations like this in the future, you might want to capture these runs on video and post the link. Those "knights who say 'nay'" will then have nothing to say. :)

-Sean

I just do not understand why some members seem to enjoy hurting other people's feelings and/or causing them anger.

Here's a man, Johnnyt, who has shared his pool stories with all of us on this forum many times over. I have always enjoyed reading his posts.

He relays a happy pool experience, and then somebody seems to want to make him feel bad. SHAME ON THEM!

Johnnyt, don't let them get you down. You're very much a part of the fabric which makes up AzBilliards Discussion Forum. Keep on posting and know that the majority of the members of this forum enjoy you being here.

Cuebuddy
05-10-2009, 12:03 PM
I just do not understand why some members seem to enjoy hurting other people's feelings and/or causing them anger.

Here's a man, Johnnyt, who has shared his pool stories with all of us on this forum many times over. I have always enjoyed reading his posts.

He relays a happy pool experience, and then somebody seems to want to make him feel bad. SHAME ON THEM!

Johnnyt, don't let them get you down. You're very much a part of the fabric which makes up AzBilliards Discussion Forum. Keep on posting and know that the majority of the members of this forum enjoy you being here.

Well said, you can't let the jealous ones knock you down. These forums are a strange place once you get involved and it is easy to rattle someones cage. JT you are one of the great posters and frankly I could care less if the stories you post are real or not. I have read the true ones from amazon and the fiction and I like them all.:wink:

poolhustler
05-10-2009, 12:04 PM
JT.... Fade the haters my freind!!

Ktown D
05-10-2009, 12:17 PM
I just do not understand why some members seem to enjoy hurting other people's feelings and/or causing them anger.

Here's a man, Johnnyt, who has shared his pool stories with all of us on this forum many times over. I have always enjoyed reading his posts.

He relays a happy pool experience, and then somebody seems to want to make him feel bad. SHAME ON THEM!

Johnnyt, don't let them get you down. You're very much a part of the fabric which makes up AzBilliards Discussion Forum. Keep on posting and know that the majority of the members of this forum enjoy you being here.

It is because some people are just turds. They enjoy running their mouth about others because they are either jealous or have no self-worth.

But hey, he should be an authority on great play........the guy is a 7 in APA.

Rich93
05-10-2009, 12:30 PM
Johnnyt - You're one of my favorite posters. Your enthusiasm for the game is infectious and your posts are always upbeat. You're the kind of guy I'd love to get to know, and I'm sure many others feel the same way. Don't let one sour apple spoil the AZB experience for you.

Fatboy
05-10-2009, 02:02 PM
JT your good in my book 100%.

Neil
05-10-2009, 02:08 PM
...............

the420trooper
05-10-2009, 02:17 PM
JohnnyT, I've always enjoyed your posts, please keep them coming.:thumbup:

Your road stories are awesome, I couldn't imagine the things you've gone through that you CAN"T post here...PM me sometime.

Roy Steffensen
05-10-2009, 02:18 PM
JT your good in my book 100%.

In my book too!

Pushout
05-10-2009, 02:19 PM
JT your good in my book 100%.

Not to hijack the thread, Eric, I have your number. Thanks!

recanizegame
05-10-2009, 02:21 PM
Johnnyt, you ARE one of the best posters here. It's too bad that lately, there seem to be some people that seem to get a rise out of being negative jerks. They have no respect for anyone, and think they are the best thing to happen to mankind. Do your best to ignore them, even though at times it is very hard. Keep on posting your great posts here, friend!


+ 1 F the haters.

chin0
05-10-2009, 04:30 PM
Johnny, don't let it bother you, IIRC, you were a male nurse right? If so, sounds like the accuser needs a cure, why not give him the shot? :thumbup: Keep it up my man, your story are not just entertaining but it also inspires me. Keep it coming, until then, hook line and sink buddy!

Happy shooting! :)

Chino

Steve - Detroit
05-10-2009, 05:43 PM
Add me to the list of those that enjoy your posts, jt. Your posts are always informative, funny, reflective and just plain entertaining, keep them coming.

JoeyA
05-10-2009, 05:50 PM
Aieeeehhh!

I hope you didn't take my mentioning in a thread where you were talking about taking down the mail man, the painter and a half dozen other trades people and I suggested, I think to Hu that you "bull-shitted some prospective customers" into thinking that you couldn't play as an insult.

:confused:

JoeyA

CreeDo
05-10-2009, 06:05 PM
I'm glad you posted this. I was skeptical at first when you said you got the mailman, fedex, poolboy, housepainter, etc. into races and suckered them out of some cash. NOT because I don't think you can reel someone in, and NOT because I think you can't beat those guys, but just because ... even though pool is popular, it's not THAT popular. People who play regularly are pretty common, but people who play seriously are not. And people who will gamble hundreds on sets are even rarer. I am pretty sure MY mailman won't play me for that money, nor the painter.

So I gotta admit I had a hard time imagining you falling ass-backwards into a SEA OF FISH so to speak =) But I can see you are serious about this and I believe it. You're a very lucky guy.

Don't sweat anything APA7 says. Over the years I have noticed he is more likely to be a complete dŪckhead than anyone else on the forums. He quickly got his rep tanked as a result of that comment. You already know the guy's a tool just by his nickname... who brags about being a 7 in the APA?! I was too but there are at least 350 gears above my best speed.

sixpack
05-10-2009, 06:39 PM
I don't know who said what but I got a similar response once when I talked about winning hundreds of tournaments and guys were saying if I was so good why didn't I play Johnny (Archer) and Earl some.

And another when I asked what other good players did after a layoff of a few months to get back in stroke and they popped up and said if I didn't know that I must not be that good. wtf. I guess they can't read English because I posted what I did and was wondering if it was similar to what other guys did.

Those haters aren't good and don't have a clue about the style of pool that you, me, Hu and a host of others on here played and made good money at. They don't really understand that you can make money playing pool more by knowing what you can do than by trying to beat any and all comers.

Other than top-tier players, nobody has to like playing us cheap money on a barbox. I know I'm not a world champion, but I know in MOST bars I can beat everyone and in ALL bars I can beat somebody. And I bet accordingly. I know from your stories that you can relate to that pretty well. And I know from having a lot of similar experiences that your stories are about 99% true and 1% bullshit. But the bullshit is there like salt and pepper to add a little zest. That's a pretty good ratio in my book.

There's always a faster gun. I admire the guys like Bartram who put it all out there, but I never had the firepower to do it.

I guess what I'm trying to say is: You're aces with me. You're one of the ones on AZB I'd like to sit around over a tasty beverage and some good food and trade stories with.

And if I was your landscaper, pool boy, cable guy or whatever, I think we'd have a pretty good matchup. And have some fun along the way.

Take care and don't let it get you down for even one second.

~rc

ftgokie
05-10-2009, 06:58 PM
JohnnyT....are you BSing us once again;)...Nah, i wouldnt let people like that rain on your parade.....they are just wannabes:thumbup:

iba7467
05-10-2009, 07:22 PM
Johnnyt = good guy

Thanks for being a poster here.

JDB
05-10-2009, 07:22 PM
I really shouldnít let the Johnnyt is a BS artist bother me, but it does a little bit. No Iím not well known like Jay or Freddy the Beard who played just about all comers, and I didnít want to be. I wasnít as good as of them either. I have admitted time and time again on here that if I knew a place where top players from the area and tough action wasÖI avoided it like the Plague. I wasnít playing pool to bang heads with players I couldnít or probably couldnít beat. I was in it purely for the money. Yes I loved the game, loved the hustle, but making money at it always came first for me. If you were seen playing with well-known top money players (even if you lost to them) the easy action would dry up very fast. If thatís a nit in your book, so be it.

I have played many top players over the years like Buddy Hall, Mike S, Allen Hopkins, C M Lee, and many more, both men and women pros. Like I said in many threads on here over the years, I mostly only played them after I made a good score at the dog or horse track. Never out of pool winnings. Pool winnings always got reinvested quickly for something of value or resale value. If any of them want to come forward that would be fine.

Iíve stated on here before that I always reinvested my pool winnings on something of value. Iíve also stated I owned or was partners on a little less than 200 Racing Greyhounds, that ranged in price from $2500 to $26,000 each. I am a partner in ownership still on Dodgem By Design, the second top-producing stud dog in the world. He has brought in over $700,000 in racing winnings and stud fees so far. We paid $24,500 for him at the National Greyhound Auction if I remember right. Most Greyhound players have seen my name (John W. Terrell) in the programs at many Greyhound tracks around the country. Iím sure Charter Kennel, Red Rock Kennel, Marriott Kennel, just to name three out of probably 30 kennels Iíve had dogs with and Iím sure will vouch for me.

Over the years Iíve staked some top players 50/50 and many more both male and female that I just helped with expenses to enter and travel to tournaments, asking for nothing in return. Some are members of AZ, most are not to my knowledge.

I said on here that I did some writing. Go to Amazon.com and other online bookstores and you will find my work. The story ďHustling Under the RadarĒ is a true story, the rest are mostly fiction.

As far as anything mob related that I said on hereÖforget about it, Iím not going there. Johnnyt

JohnnyT,

Although I don't always agree with you or some of the things you have done in the past, you are an extremely good story teller. If you say it is true, that is good enough for me as I have no reason not to believe you.

Don't worry about the people that don't believe, they are not worth it. Keep the stories rolling... I think everyone appreciates them.

BVal
05-10-2009, 08:03 PM
Johnny is 100% for real and you can take that to the bank.

BVal

houmatroy
05-10-2009, 08:06 PM
I enjoy your post for whatever that's worth...U seem to keep it real !

Cuephoric
05-10-2009, 08:15 PM
JohnnyT, I've always enjoyed your posts, please keep them coming.:thumbup:

Your road stories are awesome, I couldn't imagine the things you've gone through that you CAN"T post here...PM me sometime.

That goes double for me!!
Kudos for the run,too, by the way!

gunzby
05-10-2009, 09:14 PM
Eh shake it off Johnny. I've been called the same on here when I said I ran a ten pack of 9ball years ago before I quit playing. I just as you know what you accomplished is true so it shouldn't matter, but it does hit a nerve to be called a BSer.

maldito
05-10-2009, 10:50 PM
Keep posting Johnnyt as your posts are good .

real irish
05-10-2009, 10:55 PM
Johnnyt-- You don't have to apologize to anyone . Woofin is not against the law . You play who you feel like playing and let the balls fall where they may !!!

ironman
05-11-2009, 06:25 AM
Johnny,

I too played pool for the money. I enjoyed the game but I enjoyed making money at it more. Although I played a few top players it was because they came to me, I didn't go looking for them. Early in my gambling days I made the mistake of getting into tough action at Greenway. It was all the buzz every time I visited my usual haunts up and down Plank and Airline for a few weeks and action was thinner than thin. There was always somebody that had been at Greenway or heard about it to clue in their buddies. I had to go to the far reaches of my usual 50-75 mile radius to find a game. I took the lesson to heart and never showed any speed at Greenway again!

I don't have anything to prove to anyone. If I am in the mood to talk on here I do. Folks can believe or disbelieve, no skin off of my bottom. I advise taking the same attitude yourself. There will always be scoffers.

Hu

I never felt I had anything to prove to anyone else at all. Hell, I was too busy beating myself up.

I'm now 57 years old and still haven't figured out if I played for the money or just because I loved it so much. I have to admitt though, playing for nothing si about like kissing your sister. It ain't so bad, it just ain't the real thing.

ShootingArts
05-11-2009, 07:44 AM
I never felt I had anything to prove to anyone else at all. Hell, I was too busy beating myself up.

I'm now 57 years old and still haven't figured out if I played for the money or just because I loved it so much. I have to admitt though, playing for nothing si about like kissing your sister. It ain't so bad, it just ain't the real thing.

The truth is I played for both money and love of the game. Danny Medina and I battled for hours at three dollars a game in the mid-eighties. That was the starting bet in a bar and neither of us felt like raising it after we saw the game we had gotten ourselves into.:D We still banged heads for hours because we both enjoyed the struggle. At fifty cents a game I think the bar owner made more money than either of us that evening. I have never had more fun playing pool though.

Hu

Big Perm
05-11-2009, 07:51 AM
Johnny, I always like your posts....you have a good way about you, tell good stories, and never seem to attack anyone.....there are about 10 people on here that continuously like to stir the pot, and a few of them are nothing more than trolls....just ignore them like the rest of us do....I know that is easier said than done when you happen to be the target :D

Knight-of-Pool
05-11-2009, 08:19 AM
Keep the posting coming JohnnyT your stories are great. Some ppl have to be nasty to others to make themself feel big. Don't let there BS post get to you , you know it was not BS you have the cash in your pocket .

Sam Waltz
05-11-2009, 09:39 AM
Psst...tonight APA7 sleeps with the fishes!!!

Don't sweat that "talker's" comments JohnnyT. He's not even in your class sir!

:thumbup:

avmaster
05-11-2009, 09:54 AM
Keep up on the good fight JT, I appreciate your storys......

avmaster a lurker on the main forum.........

freddy the beard
05-11-2009, 10:36 AM
Johnny T is one of a select few, good pool writers. I happen to like him very much. I especially appreciate him for agreeing that he probably couldnt beat me, but I aint so sure he couldnt give my pal Jay a ball or two. If Jay happens to read this I will deny it as easily as Nancy Pelosi denied ever hearing about waterboarding. Are you gonna believe me or your lying ears and eyes?

the Beard

Johnnyt
05-11-2009, 11:26 AM
Johnny T is one of a select few, good pool writers. I happen to like him very much. I especially appreciate him for agreeing that he probably couldnt beat me, but I aint so sure he couldnt give my pal Jay a ball or two. If Jay happens to read this I will deny it as easily as Nancy Pelosi denied ever hearing about waterboarding. Are you gonna believe me or your lying ears and eyes?

the Beard

Thank you Freddy, but you could give me the 7 & out in the writing department. Johnnyt