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12310bch
06-19-2010, 07:49 PM
I started a new thread so this would not get lost in that other one. One-pocket handicap chart; http://onepocket.org/handicaps.htm

It's all there.

Bob Jewett
06-19-2010, 09:52 PM
If you accept the "small" premise that the advantage of the better player remains more or less constant in the various phases of the game, the following table is useful.

Bob

One Pocket Handicaps

The rating differences below are on a scale where a player who
plays twice as well as another player will be rated 100 points
higher. You can figure spots between two players from the spots
they got from a common opponent, assuming the games were fair.

Example: A gives B 9-7, so he is 37.8 rating points better than B.
B gives C 9-6 so he is 61.2 points better than C. A is then 99.0
points better than C and the closest spot listed is 14-7, which
requires a lot of ball spotting. An option would be to alternate
between 9-5 and 10-5 for an average spot of 97.1.

You can also use the table below to see how different two spots
are.

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Rating Ball
Diff. Spot

11.0 14-13
11.9 13-12
12.9 12-11
14.2 11-10
15.7 10-9
17.7 9-8
20.1 8-7
22.8 14-12
23.4 7-6
24.8 13-11
27.1 12-10
28.0 6-5
29.9 11-9
33.4 10-8
34.7 5-4
35.7 14-11
37.8 9-7
39.0 13-10
42.9 12-9
43.6 8-6
45.7 4-3
47.6 11-8
49.9 14-10
51.4 7-5
53.6 10-7
54.7 13-9
60.5 12-8
61.2 9-6
62.7 6-4
65.7 14-9
67.1 3-2
67.8 11-7
71.5 8-5
72.4 13-8
77.0 10-6
80.4 5-3
80.7 12-7
83.4 14-8
86.1 7-4
89.2 9-5
91.2 11-6
92.5 13-7
103.5 14-7
104.1 12-6
105.0 10-5
106.2 8-4
108.4 6-3
112.9 4-2
116.0 13-6
119.1 11-5
123.9 9-4
126.9 14-6
127.2 2-1
131.8 7-3
132.1 12-5
139.7 10-4
143.9 13-5
147.6 5-2
152.0 8-3
153.9 11-4
154.9 14-5
166.8 12-4
169.7 9-3
175.6 6-2
178.6 13-4
185.4 10-3
189.6 14-4
194.4 3-1
199.0 7-2
199.6 11-3
212.5 12-3
219.1 8-2
224.4 13-3
235.3 14-3
236.8 9-2
240.2 4-1
252.6 10-2
266.8 11-2
275.0 5-1
279.7 12-2
291.6 13-2
302.5 14-2
303.0 6-1
326.4 7-1
346.6 8-1
364.3 9-1
380.0 10-1
394.3 11-1
407.2 12-1
419.1 13-1
430.0 14-1

Scott Lee
06-20-2010, 12:04 AM
Bob...What would you rate the spot Gabe was giving Dippy Dave last month in Vegas (16-4)...and outrunning the nuts? :eek: :D I know that Dave guy has been winning a ton of $$$ playing these wild spots.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

If you accept the "small" premise that the advantage of the better player remains more or less constant in the various phases of the game, the following table is useful.

Bob

One Pocket Handicaps

The rating differences below are on a scale where a player who
plays twice as well as another player will be rated 100 points
higher. You can figure spots between two players from the spots
they got from a common opponent, assuming the games were fair.

Example: A gives B 9-7, so he is 37.8 rating points better than B.
B gives C 9-6 so he is 61.2 points better than C. A is then 99.0
points better than C and the closest spot listed is 14-7, which
requires a lot of ball spotting. An option would be to alternate
between 9-5 and 10-5 for an average spot of 97.1.

You can also use the table below to see how different two spots
are.

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Rating Ball
Diff. Spot

11.0 14-13
11.9 13-12
12.9 12-11
14.2 11-10
15.7 10-9
17.7 9-8
20.1 8-7
22.8 14-12
23.4 7-6
24.8 13-11
27.1 12-10
28.0 6-5
29.9 11-9
33.4 10-8
34.7 5-4
35.7 14-11
37.8 9-7
39.0 13-10
42.9 12-9
43.6 8-6
45.7 4-3
47.6 11-8
49.9 14-10
51.4 7-5
53.6 10-7
54.7 13-9
60.5 12-8
61.2 9-6
62.7 6-4
65.7 14-9
67.1 3-2
67.8 11-7
71.5 8-5
72.4 13-8
77.0 10-6
80.4 5-3
80.7 12-7
83.4 14-8
86.1 7-4
89.2 9-5
91.2 11-6
92.5 13-7
103.5 14-7
104.1 12-6
105.0 10-5
106.2 8-4
108.4 6-3
112.9 4-2
116.0 13-6
119.1 11-5
123.9 9-4
126.9 14-6
127.2 2-1
131.8 7-3
132.1 12-5
139.7 10-4
143.9 13-5
147.6 5-2
152.0 8-3
153.9 11-4
154.9 14-5
166.8 12-4
169.7 9-3
175.6 6-2
178.6 13-4
185.4 10-3
189.6 14-4
194.4 3-1
199.0 7-2
199.6 11-3
212.5 12-3
219.1 8-2
224.4 13-3
235.3 14-3
236.8 9-2
240.2 4-1
252.6 10-2
266.8 11-2
275.0 5-1
279.7 12-2
291.6 13-2
302.5 14-2
303.0 6-1
326.4 7-1
346.6 8-1
364.3 9-1
380.0 10-1
394.3 11-1
407.2 12-1
419.1 13-1
430.0 14-1

Bob Jewett
06-20-2010, 08:45 AM
Bob...What would you rate the spot Gabe was giving Dippy Dave last month in Vegas (16-4)...and outrunning the nuts? :eek: :D I know that Dave guy has been winning a ton of $$$ playing these wild spots. ...
Well, 16-4 is roughly the same as 12-3 (same ratio) but I think it is safer for the stronger player. I'd guess it is closer to 10-3 in difficulty. The table I posted above works best for games that add to about 16.

The two extremes of spot as far as totals I've heard of were 20-10 (Grady and someone at DCC) and 2-1 (Ronnie Allen and Bucktooth in Reno/Tahoe).

12310bch
06-22-2010, 05:58 PM
I'll bump this a coulpa times because it's good info.