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Cashrider
10-22-2010, 02:46 PM
IF AND WHEN Danny Medina returns from paying his debt to society who will emerge ?

Do you think he will ever play competitive level pool again ?

How a man handle adversity reveals his character....

What say you...pool community ?

jrackman
10-22-2010, 02:51 PM
IF AND WHEN Danny Medina returns from paying his debt to society who will emerge ?

Do you think he will ever play competitive level pool again ?

How a man handle adversity reveals his character....

What say you...pool community ?why does he owe our society? and where is he returning from? I'm out of the loop..lol

cuesblues
10-22-2010, 03:03 PM
Maybe he's playing everyday.
We'll know when he gets out.
With all of Danny's talent I would like to see him get back to his old form, or somewhere close.

See you at BI

GetMeThere
10-22-2010, 03:32 PM
Is this the Danny Medina from Denver, who used to specialize in playing with an over-sized, bar table cue ball? If so, I knew him (mostly knew OF him) back in the early 70's. Flashy guy, who could play well, and wouldn't back down from ANYBODY!

D C 6 Pocket
10-22-2010, 03:41 PM
Is this the Danny Medina from Denver, who used to specialize in playing with an over-sized, bar table cue ball? If so, I knew him (mostly knew OF him) back in the early 70's. Flashy guy, who could play well, and wouldn't back down from ANYBODY!

I used to play Danny when I lived in Denver on the 9' table that the floor sloped from front to back. Was spotted the 5 & break for $5.00 a game to practice and most of the time.......I got beat. This was in 82/83 and he played great. What happened that sent him away?:eek:

Tokyo-dave
10-22-2010, 04:14 PM
Danny is doing a little time as a result of something to do with an automobile accident. I don't know any more details. I do know however, that whenever I ran into him at TS, he was always willing to play, and for pocket change. No, he doesn't play world class these days, and I would venture to say probably not even what I would consider one of the best 10 in Colorado. However, he still pulls some pretty cool strokes out of his @ss and has lot's to offer in terms of knowledge. I have no doubt in my mind that if he were to put in the time to make a come back the right way, he could be right back up there as maybe not a world beater again, but for sure a good shortstop to avoid when visiting Denver.
dave

Cashrider
10-22-2010, 04:17 PM
Is this the Danny Medina from Denver, who used to specialize in playing with an over-sized, bar table cue ball? If so, I knew him (mostly knew OF him) back in the early 70's. Flashy guy, who could play well, and wouldn't back down from ANYBODY!

That the guy...Funky Cold Medina..by the way Danny says that the Tone Loc Hit song ..Funky Cold Medina was written about him when Tone saw him playing pool and they hung out a bit back in the day...

cuesblues
10-22-2010, 04:56 PM
That the guy...Funky Cold Medina..by the way Danny says that the Tone Loc Hit song ..Funky Cold Medina was written about him when Tone saw him playing pool and they hung out a bit back in the day...

What's up with the Loc yo?

Cashrider
10-22-2010, 05:20 PM
What's up with the Loc yo?

l don't know him personally but my guess is ...He's chillin at the hizzie fo shizzie with a half a dozen shorties suckin on his toes.

Lucky Bastard.

Bigtruck
08-23-2012, 08:49 PM
Danny did return to Denver and started playing pool again. Shortly after he was diagnosed with cancer and is currently fighting that battle right now, much like he would fight his battles on the felt.

I am leaving Saturday to interview the Great Danny Medina. I am hoping to capture his life, as told by him. I'm sure It won't be everything but I'm certain it will be very interesting.

Cancer is real mofo. Progress has been made and hopefully there will be a cure, if not in our lifetime maybe our kids.

Keep Danny in your thoughts and prayers.

Sincerely,

Ray

cuesblues
08-23-2012, 09:04 PM
Danny did return to Denver and started playing pool again. Shortly after he was diagnosed with cancer and is currently fighting that battle right now, much like he would fight his battles on the felt.

I am leaving Saturday to interview the Great Danny Medina. I am hoping to capture his life, as told by him. I'm sure It won't be everything but I'm certain it will be very interesting.

Cancer is real mofo. Progress has been made and hopefully there will be a cure, if not in our lifetime maybe our kids.

Keep Danny in your thoughts and prayers.

Sincerely,

Ray

Are you going to be at Felt this weekend?
Danny won a tournament at Felt a couple of weeks ago.
Hope to see you there

Bigtruck
08-23-2012, 09:20 PM
Are you going to be at Felt this weekend?
Danny won a tournament at Felt a couple of weeks ago.
Hope to see you there

No idea where we will be meeting up but I would love to make an appearance and get to see many of my friends I haven't seen in a while.

Ray

cuesblues
08-23-2012, 09:31 PM
No idea where we will be meeting up but I would love to make an appearance and get to see many of my friends I haven't seen in a while.

Ray

He is usually at Felt on Sunday
Other than Felt, he comes to Side Pockets (retirement center) once and a while, but he gets tired, and he's lost quite a bit of weight.
There could be upwards to six AZers at Felt on Sunday...:smile:

BryanB
08-23-2012, 09:52 PM
I was going to head up for the tournament this weekend but if I made the finals I wouldn't be able to go Sunday. Wife has commitments and I'm stuck with kids :mad:.

Good luck to all

and to stay on topic, I payed Danny one back in 94/95 here in Colo Springs at Pinkies. The man was a machine and I was not

cuesblues
08-23-2012, 10:22 PM
I don't know if Danny is playing in the 9ball box championship starting Saturday.
Maybe cashrider will chime in.

hang-the-9
08-24-2012, 06:46 AM
I will tell you something about Danny Medina.

He had the absolute worst pool instruction video I have ever seen.

It was like someone made an instruction video using a porn director and actors.

Plus he has or had, the record for the most racks run in a tournament with 9 against Incardona.

cuesblues
08-24-2012, 07:04 AM
I will tell you something about Danny Medina.

He had the absolute worst pool instruction video I have ever seen.

It was like someone made an instruction video using a porn director and actors.

Plus he has or had, the record for the most racks run in a tournament with 9 against Incardona.

Maybe that is why he has done so well over the years teaching women with large breasts how to play pool.
He's very good at teaching women the stance, keeping those big babies out of the way.

The video of him running 9-racks in a row on Billy Incardona is really amazing.
Those were not easy runouts, and he was in such a zone he didn't know he had done it.

Bigtruck
08-24-2012, 08:46 AM
Maybe that is why he has done so well over the years teaching women with large breasts how to play pool.
He's very good at teaching women the stance, keeping those big babies out of the way.

The video of him running 9-racks in a row on Billy Incardona is really amazing.
Those were not easy runouts, and he was in such a zone he didn't know he had done it.

Where is that video?

Ray

hang-the-9
08-24-2012, 08:59 AM
Where is that video?

Ray

http://1vshop.com/Accu-Stats/store.cgi?CMD=011&PROD=1253076176&PNAME=Bill+Incardona+vs.+Danny+Medina+%28DVD%29

Title states he runs 8, but I am pretty sure it's 9. Maybe part of 1 and 8 from the break? This is no 9s on the break, so I think it stands higher than Earl's million dollar run as he had a few 9s on the break and some early combos.

Island Drive
08-24-2012, 11:40 AM
http://1vshop.com/Accu-Stats/store.cgi?CMD=011&PROD=1253076176&PNAME=Bill+Incardona+vs.+Danny+Medina+%28DVD%29

Title states he runs 8, but I am pretty sure it's 9. Maybe part of 1 and 8 from the break? This is no 9s on the break, so I think it stands higher than Earl's million dollar run as he had a few 9s on the break and some early combos.

Earl ran a ten, and if you put a million on one shot to get that MiL, the pressure is different, waaaaaaaaaaaaaay different.

hang-the-9
08-24-2012, 11:42 AM
Earl ran a ten, and if you put a million on one shot to get that MiL, the pressure is different, waaaaaaaaaaaaaay different.

Earl did not technically run 10 racks, he made several 9 balls on the break and combos. He "won" 10 racks. Medina did not have any 9 on the break wins in his run. Allowing rack your own for Earl there was a mistake, anyone that read 10 minutes about racking can setup a 9 to head to a pocket.

cuesblues
08-24-2012, 12:06 PM
Where is that video?

Ray

I have it
Danny broke & ran 9-racks
Race to 11

They both missed in the first rack, Danny won.
Danny broke & ran 9, score 10-0
Can't remember what happened after the break in the 11th rack.
By then Billy Incardona was just kidding around and not serious at all.
He even attempted to shoot with the butt end of his cue...:smile:

Island Drive
08-24-2012, 12:58 PM
Earl did not technically run 10 racks, he made several 9 balls on the break and combos. He "won" 10 racks. Medina did not have any 9 on the break wins in his run. Allowing rack your own for Earl there was a mistake, anyone that read 10 minutes about racking can setup a 9 to head to a pocket.

If Earl ''technically'' did not run ten racks, then why did the lawyers that represent the insurance company not win their case. And since when were 9 ball combos not good ''technically'' for a win?

OUSooner
08-24-2012, 01:12 PM
I thought the insurance company did win but CJ paid out of his pocket part of the prize? Maybe CJ will chime in.

If Earl ''technically'' did not run ten racks, then why did the lawyers that represent the insurance company not win their case. And since when were 9 ball combos not good ''technically'' for a win?




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FreeShot
08-24-2012, 01:16 PM
I thought the insurance company did win but CJ paid out of his pocket part of the prize? Maybe CJ will chime in.


I remember hearing that when the insurance company didn't pay immediately, CJ paid the initial 50,000 dollar installment. (Since the prize was supposed to be an annuity paid over 20 years.) Not sure if that is true, but I do remember someone saying that.

hang-the-9
08-24-2012, 01:20 PM
If Earl ''technically'' did not run ten racks, then why did the lawyers that represent the insurance company not win their case. And since when were 9 ball combos not good ''technically'' for a win?

A "run out" in 9 ball, you break, make a ball, soot in the rest. Don't know how else you can define what a run out is. Making a 9 on the break is a "shot". We all know that you don't have to have any type of logic when it comes to lawers. I did say that he "won" the games, but he did not "run" them all out. Hanging up a 2-9 combo off the break and shooting that in should not be a "run out" either. If you make a 9 on the break, do you say "I broke and ran that rack"? Or if you make a combo in the first few shots?

In the USAPL Maters division I was in, you do not count a break and run or a table run unless you make 5 balls in. If you break, make 2 shots and shoot a combo, it does not count as a break and run in the stats. Which is what a "break and run" should be. Wins, yes, count towards a string of racks, yes as in "I strung 5 racks together", but should not be a "run out".

And there were issues with the insurance company because of that also I though, but because they did not specify exactly what needed to be done they lost. At least that is what I remember when this whole thing happened.

CreeDo
08-24-2012, 01:32 PM
Jay gives the details in his excellent book.

Sometimes you get a table that is 'friendly' to sending the 9 towards the corners. I think Joe Tucker said this happens when the rack settles with a tiny gap behind either of the balls behind the 9... and then you have to break from the side.

I don't think earl did any rack mechanics to make himself a dead 9. He just got fortunate that this table was doing that. So yeah, he got lots of early 9's and 9 on the break.

The insurance company stipulated that after 5 racks, a neutral racker had to be found. Jay, catching on a little late, stepped in after 6. Then jay racked them himself. But still the table broke friendly, and earl was just running out as needed.

He hit the 10, and then, just to be safe, he actually pulled off an 11th break and run (in case the insurance company got squirrelly about the racking issue).

They still didn't want to pay due to the 9's on the break / early 9's. But it wasn't spelled out in the original contract. So while earl didn't win the whole million, he made a settlement with them for something like... I think it was less than half of that? Can't recall. A significant fraction of it.

Efren has run a 9 pack in competition. In fact I think maybe more than one. That one's on youtube. Only Jay H. and maybe a handful of others have the video of Earl's run.

sixpack
08-24-2012, 02:00 PM
I have it
Danny broke & ran 9-racks
Race to 11

They both missed in the first rack, Danny won.
Danny broke & ran 9, score 10-0
Can't remember what happened after the break in the 11th rack.
By then Billy Incardona was just kidding around and not serious at all.
He even attempted to shoot with the butt end of his cue...:smile:

He hopped the ball off the table on the break (or scratched I can't remember). I just remember talking to him about it a few days after it happened and he said he was in such dead punch if he keeps that ball on the table in that break he runs out the set. Guaranteed.

~rc

cuesblues
08-24-2012, 03:17 PM
He hopped the ball off the table on the break (or scratched I can't remember). I just remember talking to him about it a few days after it happened and he said he was in such dead punch if he keeps that ball on the table in that break he runs out the set. Guaranteed.

~rc

You're correct
I was going to say that, but I wasn't 100% sure, and I was too lazy to go get the video.
He did jump the ball off the table in the 11th rack

skierlawyer
08-24-2012, 10:31 PM
I have it
Danny broke & ran 9-racks
Race to 11

They both missed in the first rack, Danny won.
Danny broke & ran 9, score 10-0
Can't remember what happened after the break in the 11th rack.
By then Billy Incardona was just kidding around and not serious at all.
He even attempted to shoot with the butt end of his cue...:smile:

Can I borrow the video sometime, I would love to see it?

backplaying
08-25-2012, 12:52 AM
I will tell you something about Danny Medina.

He had the absolute worst pool instruction video I have ever seen.

It was like someone made an instruction video using a porn director and actors.

Plus he has or had, the record for the most racks run in a tournament with 9 against Incardona.

I think Billy Johnson ran 11, and Earl ran over 9 to win the million in a tournament.

cuesblues
08-25-2012, 12:54 AM
Can I borrow the video sometime, I would love to see it?

Yes you can.
I'll bring it to Felt

backplaying
08-25-2012, 12:54 AM
Earl did not technically run 10 racks, he made several 9 balls on the break and combos. He "won" 10 racks. Medina did not have any 9 on the break wins in his run. Allowing rack your own for Earl there was a mistake, anyone that read 10 minutes about racking can setup a 9 to head to a pocket.

Thats not how its looked at. It doesn't matter how many combo's made or 9's on the breaks, it still counts as games run!

sydbarret
08-25-2012, 12:58 AM
Thats not how its looked at. It doesn't matter how many combo's made or 9's on the breaks, it still counts as games run!

this is correct.

cuesblues
08-25-2012, 01:08 AM
I haven't seen Earl and Efren's 9-run videos, but I can tell you that there was nothing easy about the 9 outs Danny made.
Long banks into 2-ball combos, ridiculous cut shots, really tough tables, and it was unbelievable to watch.
It was almost as incredible as my 5-0 APA playoff win tonight.
I was running out from everywhere, and ended the match when I snapped in the 8 on the break.
Should get another pin for that one...:smile:

pt109
08-25-2012, 01:25 AM
Should get another pin for that one...:smile:

Man, you must play in a tough room....
..ya beat a guy fair and square...and you get pinned?
https://www.google.com/url?url=http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DwSfRSWMEgfI&rct=j&sa=X&ei=d4o4UIP5Icrb0QGi2IGQDA&ved=0CEkQuAIwBg&q=pins+wrestling&usg=AFQjCNE4xMchUA2TW_Savfy-gnR2YAtZYA

By the way, Johnny Archer ran a 13-pack on Francisco Bustamante.

cuesblues
08-25-2012, 02:03 AM
Man, you must play in a tough room....
..ya beat a guy fair and square...and you get pinned?
https://www.google.com/url?url=http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DwSfRSWMEgfI&rct=j&sa=X&ei=d4o4UIP5Icrb0QGi2IGQDA&ved=0CEkQuAIwBg&q=pins+wrestling&usg=AFQjCNE4xMchUA2TW_Savfy-gnR2YAtZYA

By the way, Johnny Archer ran a 13-pack on Francisco Bustamante.


Yeah, it's pretty rough in there.
Here's a video someone took a while ago, of me ending a league match.
Pool is just a rough sport.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHzF8Ll99nw&feature=share&list=UUsnEh_RIujnuQafxorh0koQ

pt109
08-25-2012, 02:25 AM
Yeah, it's pretty rough in there.
Here's a video someone took a while ago, of me ending a league match.
Pool is just a rough sport.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHzF8Ll99nw&feature=share&list=UUsnEh_RIujnuQafxorh0koQ

"That's it! I'm never giving you a tight rack again."
:rotflmao1:

BryanB
09-26-2012, 09:17 PM
Here's a shot of Danny this past weekend at Felt bar in Denver. He placed 3rd. Not bad for a guy 62 and fighting stage 4 cancer :frown:

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/603237_350453225044491_157102704_n.jpg

bigshooter
09-26-2012, 10:01 PM
The first time I watched Danny in a tournament in Nebraska he broke either 3 or 4 Meucci cues while breaking. He would break and bend them so hard on the table that either the shaft, joint or both were breaking.
I think he was sponsored by Meucci for awhile if I remember right.

CJ Wiley
09-27-2012, 05:03 AM
That the guy...Funky Cold Medina..by the way Danny says that the Tone Loc Hit song ..Funky Cold Medina was written about him when Tone saw him playing pool and they hung out a bit back in the day...

Tone Loc played at me NightClub, Carsons LIVE in Dallas. I talked to him and he knew I played pool, but he never said anything about his hit song being about a pool player....I read the song title refers to a fictional aphrodisiac, which is presented in the accompanying video as a steaming love potion. The lyrics tell the tale of Lōc's initially unsuccessful attempts to attract women. At the suggestion of a barman, he plies his intended with "that medina thing." He first tests the drink on his dog, who immediately latches onto his leg and attempts to arouse himself sexually, and subsequently becomes quite popular with his fellow canines.
Click and See 4 Yourself (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63ZIf2H9S0E)

ironman
09-27-2012, 05:48 AM
Can I borrow the video sometime, I would love to see it?
nine racks may have been his best tournament record, but I saw him break and run 13 at table Steaks in Denver, then 12 a few days later. That table was no cream puff either.
he also ran 11 on me out in Reno, but that was just for dinner. He had Prime Rib and I had a bowl of soup!!

megandickman
01-02-2013, 02:29 PM
I didn't know him back then, but he must have used that time wisely. We all enjoy hanging out with him. I hope the Lord will grant us more time with him. He is currently in home hospice with his daughter Stephanie an 6 grandchildren. If you can help, there is a charity in his honor: http://www.danny-medina.com/Welcome.html. You can also call or write me at any time 303-558-0647 or mrs.dickman@gmail.com Thank you.

Bigtruck
01-02-2013, 03:20 PM
Tone Loc played at me NightClub, Carsons LIVE in Dallas. I talked to him and he knew I played pool, but he never said anything about his hit song being about a pool player....I read the song title refers to a fictional aphrodisiac, which is presented in the accompanying video as a steaming love potion. The lyrics tell the tale of Lōc's initially unsuccessful attempts to attract women. At the suggestion of a barman, he plies his intended with "that medina thing." He first tests the drink on his dog, who immediately latches onto his leg and attempts to arouse himself sexually, and subsequently becomes quite popular with his fellow canines.
Click and See 4 Yourself (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63ZIf2H9S0E)

Either way I can see how Danny could relate to it being about a "player" who is hunting "action" in bars and pool rooms......and his name IS Medina. :D

In my visits with Danny last August in Denver, he spoke of being jarred at least 3 times in bars. Hopefully no-one slipped him a little Funky Cold Medina! :shocked:

Ray