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Trigger
03-26-2011, 03:18 PM
A guy that shoots pool with me and helped teach me the game is looking to identify an old cue he bought in the 60's. He said he cant remember exactly where he got it but it was somewhere in San Diego California and he payed 100 dollars for it brand new. I have never seen anything like it and was hoping one of the many experts on here could possibly help us out with what it is and how much it is worth approx. About a year ago at a midwest 9 ball tournament he took it and showed it to a couple cue dealers/vendors and nobody had much info. Jim Buss said he had no clue who it was made by but would give him 1000 dollars for it on spot. He declined in figuring if it was worth that to Jim he needed to find out more about it.

things on cue that might help
- buttsleeve of cue is engraved with "made in germany"
- forearm is engraved with "20"
- butt comes apart into 3 pieces with big snooker style wood pins
- joint is inverted like in the old schmelke cues

Here are some pictues any help would be greatly appriciated!

http://img405.imageshack.us/i/dsc01591st.jpg/
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Ken_4fun
03-26-2011, 03:29 PM
He should have taken the 1000....:cool:



Ken

Scott Lee
03-26-2011, 03:35 PM
Wow, that is one odd looking cue! The number 20 would obviously be the cue weight. Cuemakers, even in the 60's, were not stamping the weight on the forearm of the cues they made. House cues, on the other hand, were always stamped like yours. That leads me to believe that at least part of that cue lived a life as a house cue. I've never seen any kind of design like that. Maybe somebody else will be able to help you ID it.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Scott Lee
03-26-2011, 03:37 PM
I'm inclined to agree with Ken here.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

He should have taken the 1000....:cool:



Ken

Trigger
03-26-2011, 03:38 PM
Thanks for the input guys. It is more sentimental to him than anything thats why he didnt sell it. He probably wont sell it I assume just wants to know what it is and how much its worth..

Scott Lee
03-26-2011, 03:46 PM
No idea what it is...but it's likely worth more to the owner. Jim Buss is no dummy (and in fact is a rocket scientist), but he may have offered $$$ for it as a curiosity.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Trigger
03-26-2011, 03:55 PM
No idea what it is...but it's likely worth more to the owner. Jim Buss is no dummy (and in fact is a rocket scientist), but he may have offered $$$ for it as a curiosity.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

I agree with you Jim Buss is a smart man and why he might have offered money for it. More or less he is looking to just figure out what it is because he doesnt have any money problems if you know what I mean :) thanks for the help and the bump scott rep to you sir!

Scott Lee
03-26-2011, 04:36 PM
Trigger...If you know Jim, then you also know he makes a fine pool cue too!

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

fan-tum
03-26-2011, 05:11 PM
If it weren't for the 'Made in Germany' stipulation, I'd take a wild guess and say Sampaio.

Cuebuddy
03-26-2011, 06:11 PM
Dig around on this site and you might find out who made it.
Be forewarned this site is huge and there is a lot of eye-candy.

http://users.skynet.be/billard.billiards/index.htm

manwon
03-26-2011, 07:58 PM
[QUOTE=Trigger;2931224]A guy that shoots pool with me and helped teach me the game is looking to identify an old cue he bought in the 60's. He said he cant remember exactly where he got it but it was somewhere in San Diego California and he payed 100 dollars for it brand new. I have never seen anything like it and was hoping one of the many experts on here could possibly help us out with what it is and how much it is worth approx. About a year ago at a midwest 9 ball tournament he took it and showed it to a couple cue dealers/vendors and nobody had much info. Jim Buss said he had no clue who it was made by but would give him 1000 dollars for it on spot. He declined in figuring if it was worth that to Jim he needed to find out more about it.

things on cue that might help
- buttsleeve of cue is engraved with "made in germany"
- forearm is engraved with "20"
- butt comes apart into 3 pieces with big snooker style wood pins
- joint is inverted like in the old schmelke cues

Here are some pictues any help would be greatly appriciated!



Sorry Trigger the cue is not worth much at all and your friend should have sold it to Jim Buss. Most of these cues have inlays that are plastic not Ivory, and while the construction method's are good there were so many made they are not really collected here in the USA.

These cues were imports from Europe and the designs go all the way back to the early 1800's. It could be from France, Spain, or even Germany, some of these cues were made by Brunswick in their factory in Paris, France.

Here is a link to website, where you may find additional information or even identify which maker made this cue, good luck in your search. Like I said valuable these cues are not, unless they are attributed to a Famous European Play.

http://users.skynet.be/billard.billiards/hitsa.htm

Hope this helps

Trigger
03-27-2011, 02:06 PM
[QUOTE=Trigger;2931224]A guy that shoots pool with me and helped teach me the game is looking to identify an old cue he bought in the 60's. He said he cant remember exactly where he got it but it was somewhere in San Diego California and he payed 100 dollars for it brand new. I have never seen anything like it and was hoping one of the many experts on here could possibly help us out with what it is and how much it is worth approx. About a year ago at a midwest 9 ball tournament he took it and showed it to a couple cue dealers/vendors and nobody had much info. Jim Buss said he had no clue who it was made by but would give him 1000 dollars for it on spot. He declined in figuring if it was worth that to Jim he needed to find out more about it.

things on cue that might help
- buttsleeve of cue is engraved with "made in germany"
- forearm is engraved with "20"
- butt comes apart into 3 pieces with big snooker style wood pins
- joint is inverted like in the old schmelke cues

Here are some pictues any help would be greatly appriciated!



Sorry Trigger the cue is not worth much at all and your friend should have sold it to Jim Buss. Most of these cues have inlays that are plastic not Ivory, and while the construction method's are good there were so many made they are not really collected here in the USA.

These cues were imports from Europe and the designs go all the way back to the early 1800's. It could be from France, Spain, or even Germany, some of these cues were made by Brunswick in their factory in Paris, France.

Here is a link to website, where you may find additional information or even identify which maker made this cue, good luck in your search. Like I said valuable these cues are not, unless they are attributed to a Famous European Play.

http://users.skynet.be/billard.billiards/hitsa.htm

Hope this helps


Thanks again manworm looks to me like his was a boetzel. Az is the nuts! thanks again everyone