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Wags
03-26-2011, 07:04 PM
I used to think that if I made my shot and shape that I aimed pretty good. Ater all these "aiming threads" I've now found out that I had no idea of what I was doing.

Now my head hurts, I can't sleep at night, my appetite is gone and I've gained 2 pounds. Please, How can I stop the MADNESS?

PS...Somehow through all this, I can still make the shot and play shape.

ccshrimper
03-26-2011, 07:36 PM
I tried to read a couple of pages of CTE and I just can't believe pool is that hard for some people to learn. I didn't realize it's more complicated than quantum physics until reading some of the CTE debate.

Craig Fales
03-26-2011, 07:58 PM
I tried to read a couple of pages of CTE and I just can't believe pool is that hard for some people to learn. I didn't realize it's more complicated than quantum physics until reading some of the CTE debate.

That's why I just put it in the hole.

DrGonzo
03-26-2011, 08:28 PM
I used to think that if I made my shot and shape that I aimed pretty good. Ater all these "aiming threads" I've now found out that I had no idea of what I was doing.

Now my head hurts, I can't sleep at night, my appetite is gone and I've gained 2 pounds. Please, How can I stop the MADNESS?

PS...Somehow through all this, I can still make the shot and play shape.

If you figure out how to do this, please let me know. I had no idea any part of a sports system could be this controversial. I think next time my golf instructor tells me to do something new, im going let him know how completely wrong he MUST be...

Neil
03-26-2011, 09:30 PM
...............

Wags
03-26-2011, 10:09 PM
Very easy- just don't click on it and it won't open.;)

C'mon Neil, you know us pool players are always looking for an edge.

M-m-m-m-m-m, I think you have just given me an edge. :D

richiebalto
03-26-2011, 10:22 PM
In my opinion,all that aiming systems is for pool players that had reached the top of their abillity and are not happy were their game is,i really doubt that any top tier player has put any of that in use to get them where they play today,i do know over a hand full of great players and none of them have never said anything to me about improving my game with any aiming systems,but each his own,iam not bad mouthing aiming systems,if you feel it mite improve your game then go for it,good luck!

JB Cases
03-26-2011, 10:27 PM
Once again - read my signature on how to use the SUPER IGNORE function/plugin for Firefox

You can block posters and make the disappear as if they don't exist. You can block keywords, you can block threads, you can block avatars and signatures. In other words you can be your own moderator and do things that even the moderator can't do.

I am sick of the aiming threads as well but I am drawn to them like a moth to flame. I don't understand why so many people have to be complete and utter *****s about something that is intended to help others play better pool.

But I am slowly coming the realization that the true nature of man is not to be nice to each other, it's to be as much of a dick as it's possible to get away with. I am just a little cynical right now.

Wags
03-26-2011, 10:59 PM
snip...I am sick of the aiming threads as well but I am drawn to them like a moth to flame. I don't understand why so many people have to be complete and utter *****s about something that is intended to help others play better pool.

snip...I am just a little cynical right now.

I know that problem. I teach so there is always the possibility that I might learn something. A good teacher does the research and doesn't discount anything that might mean something.

I hope you weren't calling me a complete and utter *****. I might have to take offense.

I thought it was clear that I was just having some fun. :D

Can't we all just get along. (The dumbest movie line ever!)

PaulieB
03-26-2011, 11:01 PM
Actually yes, it's under "UserCP, Edit Options, Learn a Bit of Self Control to Not Click on Threads That Mention Aiming".

Best of luck to you. :)

Redneck Jim
03-26-2011, 11:29 PM
Once again - read my signature on how to use the SUPER IGNORE function/plugin for Firefox


When I click the signature link, It take me to a post you made last December that has another link
( https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7023/ )

When this link is clicked on, it takes me to Firefox Add-Ons page, with the message:
" We're sorry, but we can't find what you're looking for.
The page or file you requested wasn't found on our site.
It's possible that you clicked a link that's out of date, or typed in the address incorrectly. "

I tried to do a search from that page for " super ignore ", but no results were found.

If you have another link that works, I'd appreciate it.

.

JB Cases
03-26-2011, 11:41 PM
http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Internet-Utilities/FfVb.shtml

http://www.tycamtech.com/firefox-extensions/64-ffvb-firefox-vbulletin

Super Ignore is just my name for it. Better than FFVB.

JB Cases
03-26-2011, 11:53 PM
Posted through Chrome.

Using Firefox I have put in the Keywords CTE and Aiming and elected to banish all threads with those words in them.

Also I have several users on ignore, all stickies on ignore and this is what my front page looks like in Firefox.

CarlB
03-27-2011, 12:38 AM
Everything comes back to TWO things....marketing and business.

Carl

softshot
03-27-2011, 01:04 AM
Everything comes back to TWO things....marketing and business.

Carl

thats only one thing

JB Cases
03-27-2011, 01:14 AM
Everything comes back to TWO things....marketing and business.

Carl

What does that mean? I don't make a dime off of CTE and I give it away for free just as Hal gave it away to me.

In fact I am losing money as I type this response. Dave Segal doesn't get a penny for teaching CTE.

In fact the only people who charge are the professional instructors who make their living off of instructing people in general. CTE is one small part of what they teach and ALL of them have been successful as instructors long before this became such a hot topic.

A CTE dvd would not exist if it weren't for the relentless anti-CTE crowd labeling the professional instructors as snake-oil salesmen and con artists. Stan only did the DVD in order to lay to rest the idea that CTE is BS. At least now there is a guide with the full steps to using CTE available to everyone.

No matter what, NO ONE is getting rich off this, not even mildly comfortable. What is happening though is that a lot of good people are getting really pissed off and fed up.

The idea that people promote CTE to "make money" is ridiculous and sickening. Hal gave it away for free and so do we. Those who have taken Hal's ideas and refined them to the point where they can teach them professionally should do so but not if that's ALL they teach. And so far this isn't the case. No one is out there teaching ONLY CTE and asking for money. At least no one that I know of and certainly not here on AZB.

CarlB
03-27-2011, 02:18 AM
What does that mean? I don't make a dime off of CTE and I give it away for free just as Hal gave it away to me.

In fact I am losing money as I type this response. Dave Segal doesn't get a penny for teaching CTE.

In fact the only people who charge are the professional instructors who make their living off of instructing people in general. CTE is one small part of what they teach and ALL of them have been successful as instructors long before this became such a hot topic.

A CTE dvd would not exist if it weren't for the relentless anti-CTE crowd labeling the professional instructors as snake-oil salesmen and con artists. Stan only did the DVD in order to lay to rest the idea that CTE is BS. At least now there is a guide with the full steps to using CTE available to everyone.

No matter what, NO ONE is getting rich off this, not even mildly comfortable. What is happening though is that a lot of good people are getting really pissed off and fed up.

The idea that people promote CTE to "make money" is ridiculous and sickening. Hal gave it away for free and so do we. Those who have taken Hal's ideas and refined them to the point where they can teach them professionally should do so but not if that's ALL they teach. And so far this isn't the case. No one is out there teaching ONLY CTE and asking for money. At least no one that I know of and certainly not here on AZB.

The best part of your response is the fact that you incinuate that I am a "nay-sayer" as it has been labelled. Maybe I misunderstoof the concept of producing and marketing a DVD and charging a price...but to me, that seems to make money. Whether someone is "making" a profit or not is not my business. But it is not free as my bank account clearly shows from my order of the CTE/PRO ONE DVD.

I do not get on these forums to argue, promote, demote, knock, or solidify anyones methods, company, playing ability, knowledge, or personal life. But to claim something is free when I myself have paid for the knowledge in dispute is blantently false. Just because someone is not making money doesn't make it free and just because people offer it for free, doesn't mean it isn't marketed.

If I produce a DVD and then say, yeah, this thing really sucks or yeah, you could get this but its really not worth it would be negative and effectively negate something I believed in. All I meant with my statement was that it should be expected that people who produce, believe in, create, develop, or demonstrate a method would wholeheartedly promote it and clearly think it is a great product/method.

On the flip side...there will also be persons who do not believe in a method/theory to the point that they will dump every ounce of energy into countering said method. With or without proof of either argument, it will never end.

I am not for or against CTE/PRO ONE as I have not gotten my DVD yet. I do not however expect it to make me a world beater or be an end-all solution to my game. I am getting it to purely own the knowledge involved and decide for myself if I can apply it to my game.

I would be venturing into territory I do not want to be in as I am not pro or anti CTE BUT I think that the largest dispute.....you know what, nevermind...I have said my piece and you know where I stand.

I was in no way incinuating that someone was getting rich off of this system. All I am saying is that if you WANT people to believe in your system, you have to talk positively about it. In fact, I didn't mention money at all, I mentioned business and marketing. Maybe positive advertisement is a better term for it.

Respectfully
Carl

JB Cases
03-27-2011, 02:30 AM
The best part of your response is the fact that you incinuate that I am a "nay-sayer" as it has been labelled. Maybe I misunderstoof the concept of producing and marketing a DVD and charging a price...but to me, that seems to make money. Whether someone is "making" a profit or not is not my business. But it is not free as my bank account clearly shows from my order of the CTE/PRO ONE DVD.

I do not get on these forums to argue, promote, demote, knock, or solidify anyones methods, company, playing ability, knowledge, or personal life. But to claim something is free when I myself have paid for the knowledge in dispute is blantently false. Just because someone is not making money doesn't make it free and just because people offer it for free, doesn't mean it isn't marketed.

If I produce a DVD and then say, yeah, this thing really sucks or yeah, you could get this but its really not worth it would be negative and effectively negate something I believed in. All I meant with my statement was that it should be expected that people who produce, believe in, create, develop, or demonstrate a method would wholeheartedly promote it and clearly think it is a great product/method.

On the flip side...there will also be persons who do not believe in a method/theory to the point that they will dump every ounce of energy into countering said method. With or without proof of either argument, it will never end.

I am not for or against CTE/PRO ONE as I have not gotten my DVD yet. I do not however expect it to make me a world beater or be an end-all solution to my game. I am getting it to purely own the knowledge involved and decide for myself if I can apply it to my game.

I would be venturing into territory I do not want to be in as I am not pro or anti CTE BUT I think that the largest dispute.....you know what, nevermind...I have said my piece and you know where I stand.

I was in no way incinuating that someone was getting rich off of this system. All I am saying is that if you WANT people to believe in your system, you have to talk positively about it. In fact, I didn't mention money at all, I mentioned business and marketing. Maybe positive advertisement is a better term for it.

Respectfully
Carl

No, I didn't insinuate that you are a naysayer at all. I took the implication though, erroneously, that you were saying the promotion of CTE is all about marketing and business.

I can guarantee you that this DVD would not exist were it not for the negative posters defaming Stan. He made the DVD to get the information out there. Had he asked for investors to cover the cost of the production for the purpose of being able to give away the information then I would have been one of them to volunteer.

However CTE is free to anyone who wants to learn it. All you have to do is approach anyone who knows it in the right way and they will help you. But it may not be the kind of help that you would get from a professional.

Equate this to forums which help people solve computer problems where the advice comes from forum members as opposed to a dedicated site with live experts on staff who will be on your case until your problem is solved.

You can get free tech support by going the self-searching route or you can get direct tech support by paying for it.

Which way you go depends on your needs and goals. If we want to market CTE for sale then we can do it in places free of trolls and get more effective results. I can put Stan's DVD in front of a million eyeballs each month, people who have never even heard of AZB.

CTE is free. If you opted to pay for the nicely packaged version then that is your choice. No one here is arguing in favor of CTE JUST to sell DVDs. Not even Joey.

JB Cases
03-27-2011, 02:34 AM
I used to think that if I made my shot and shape that I aimed pretty good. Ater all these "aiming threads" I've now found out that I had no idea of what I was doing.

Now my head hurts, I can't sleep at night, my appetite is gone and I've gained 2 pounds. Please, How can I stop the MADNESS?

PS...Somehow through all this, I can still make the shot and play shape.

Well that ist the measure I use as well. But apparently success on the table is not the way one measures whether a method works or not according to Pat Johnson and JAL and other naysayers.

I also am beginning to get really crazy over this. At the table I find myself thinking about the jerks on here and what they say and it bothers me. When I just let go and use the freaking system without allowing their negativity in then I run balls well and get great shape.

CarlB
03-27-2011, 02:36 AM
No, I didn't insinuate that you are a naysayer at all. I took the implication though, erroneously, that you were saying the promotion of CTE is all about marketing and business.

I can guarantee you that this DVD would not exist were it not for the negative posters defaming Stan. He made the DVD to get the information out there. Had he asked for investors to cover the cost of the production for the purpose of being able to give away the information then I would have been one of them to volunteer.

However CTE is free to anyone who wants to learn it. All you have to do is approach anyone who knows it in the right way and they will help you. But it may not be the kind of help that you would get from a professional.

Equate this to forums which help people solve computer problems where the advice comes from forum members as opposed to a dedicated site with live experts on staff who will be on your case until your problem is solved.

You can get free tech support by going the self-searching route or you can get direct tech support by paying for it.

Which way you go depends on your needs and goals. If we want to market CTE for sale then we can do it in places free of trolls and get more effective results. I can put Stan's DVD in front of a million eyeballs each month, people who have never even heard of AZB.

CTE is free. If you opted to pay for the nicely packaged version then that is your choice. No one here is arguing in favor of CTE JUST to sell DVDs. Not even Joey.

I understand...but you have to agree...with any method, development, product, etc...if you want people to believe in it, you have to promote it.

I am a person that does not listen to anyone else opinions, I pass my own. I have ordered and watch just about every educational/instructional DVD and read tons of books as well. A lot of them I have simply disregarded as "horrible" but I don't come on here and bash them, thats not what I do.

I have also watched videos that are amazing and hold a overwhelming amount of knowledge.

If your personally interested at all...once I get my DVDs and watch/apply the system, I will let you know what I honestly think. (not on the forums)

Sorry for the misunderstanding and I do hope that you are having a good day.

**psst. were probably some of the few in the world that can post at these times...good stuff. :D**

Carl

JB Cases
03-27-2011, 02:48 AM
I understand...but you have to agree...with any method, development, product, etc...if you want people to believe in it, you have to promote it.

I am a person that does not listen to anyone else opinions, I pass my own. I have ordered and watch just about every educational/instructional DVD and read tons of books as well. A lot of them I have simply disregarded as "horrible" but I don't come on here and bash them, thats not what I do.

I have also watched videos that are amazing and hold a overwhelming amount of knowledge.

If your personally interested at all...once I get my DVDs and watch/apply the system, I will let you know what I honestly think. (not on the forums)

Sorry for the misunderstanding and I do hope that you are having a good day.

**psst. were probably some of the few in the world that can post at these times...good stuff. :D**

Carl

We do promote it. We talk about how it's helped our game. But the "CTE" thread started by James Roberts is a PERFECT example of the type of drive-by shootings perpetrated by naysayers.

Here is a guy who is a good player already, better than most on AZB, who asked for other CTE users to give their testimonials as to their improvement. The naysayers couldn't help but to jump in and RUIN that.

This happens over and over and over. And over.

Let's run that back and make it a thread where Pat Johnson posts that he ran 100 for the first time. If I got on that thread and called him a liar and said he didn't have proof and that I know his skill level and there is no way he could run 100 balls then I would be soundly slapped down for it.

But yet if we have positive thread where people are talking positively about their improvement after learning CTE it seems like it's perfectly ok for others to completely crap all over that.

Joey A posts a story about a young man in England who gave some credit to Stan and ProOne for his rapid improvement. The naysayers crap all over it.

So it's clear to me that some people are so emotionally invested in proving CTE is either useless or not as "exact" as advertised that they cannot ever disengage from crapping all over any positive promotion of the method.

For myself I started with this merely as a cheerleader for Hal Houle. I stood up when these assholes were denigrating Hal to be a character witness for Hal and a living testimony that his systems work, at least for me. I didn't really care to learn CTE. But then I did learn it and it's better than everything else. So now I have gone from cheerleader to practicioner to semi-competent instructor.

CarlB
03-27-2011, 03:06 AM
I agree...but i would be guessing here, that you have been around a little bit longer than I have.

You know these people exist. There is nothing you can do to change that. If someone is knocking the system that hasn't tried it, experienced it, learned it, or just doesn't like it, they are speaking out of ignorance.

I will decide for myself what I think when I see it, in full, and put it to practice. As in anything in life, there will always be people for it...and against it.

How do you think I feel when people protest with signs saying "Thank God for Dead Soldiers" or "Soldiers die because of homosexuality" or any of the other signs that the ignorant, degenerates of America want to hold up. There is nothing I can do about it, I can't walk up to them and shoot them in the face, you can't reason with them, they can't even explain why they believe what they protest. But it is something I have to live with that berates me to my very core.

Sometimes in life, you have to deal with people that you despise...because it is the price of freedom, and I fight to defend the very right for those morons to stand out there and attempt to belittle who I am and the sacrifice I make. and who make me feel like my friends who have given their life, gave it to be disrespected by the very culture or people they were defending.

Carl
**sorry, kinda got off topic and ranted...but point being, some people just have to be "dealt with"**

JB Cases
03-27-2011, 03:33 AM
I agree...but i would be guessing here, that you have been around a little bit longer than I have.

You know these people exist. There is nothing you can do to change that. If someone is knocking the system that hasn't tried it, experienced it, learned it, or just doesn't like it, they are speaking out of ignorance.

I will decide for myself what I think when I see it, in full, and put it to practice. As in anything in life, there will always be people for it...and against it.

How do you think I feel when people protest with signs saying "Thank God for Dead Soldiers" or "Soldiers die because of homosexuality" or any of the other signs that the ignorant, degenerates of America want to hold up. There is nothing I can do about it, I can't walk up to them and shoot them in the face, you can't reason with them, they can't even explain why they believe what they protest. But it is something I have to live with that berates me to my very core.

Sometimes in life, you have to deal with people that you despise...because it is the price of freedom, and I fight to defend the very right for those morons to stand out there and attempt to belittle who I am and the sacrifice I make. and who make me feel like my friends who have given their life, gave it to be disrespected by the very culture or people they were defending.

Carl
**sorry, kinda got off topic and ranted...but point being, some people just have to be "dealt with"**

It is the knocking without trying that is the hardest to stomach. Many of us who use CTE feel that if the knockers would just take it to the table then a lot of the arguments would be gone.

We feel that the prerequisite for knocking ought to be personal knowledge of how the system is used.

But anyway, it's out of control on both sides actually. At this point pretty much everything that can be said has been said. For me personally I do think that the continued efforts of the naysayers has been beneficial to the pro-CTE people because it has forced us to work harder to figure it out enough to explain and teach it. And it resulted in a very good DVD being made about it which was long overdue.

I am confident that you will find that Stan's DVD will help your game and if anything is not clear then you have a good amount of help available here.

Jimmy M.
03-27-2011, 03:45 AM
http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Internet-Utilities/FfVb.shtml

http://www.tycamtech.com/firefox-extensions/64-ffvb-firefox-vbulletin

Super Ignore is just my name for it. Better than FFVB.

Bummer. Doesn't look like there's a version that is compatible with FF 4.0 yet.

"CaliRed".
03-27-2011, 06:00 AM
When I click the signature link, It take me to a post you made last December that has another link
( https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7023/ )

When this link is clicked on, it takes me to Firefox Add-Ons page, with the message:
" We're sorry, but we can't find what you're looking for.
The page or file you requested wasn't found on our site.
It's possible that you clicked a link that's out of date, or typed in the address incorrectly. "

I tried to do a search from that page for " super ignore ", but no results were found.

If you have another link that works, I'd appreciate it.

.

Be aware that the developer stopped work on this plugin back in 4th quarter of 2010. He also mentions that it's not going to work on Firefox 4, which is out now.

Pushout
03-27-2011, 06:19 AM
If it bothers you, just don't read those threads, for pete's sake!

CreeDo
03-27-2011, 07:26 AM
Bummer. Doesn't look like there's a version that is compatible with FF 4.0 yet.

There's a trick that works for firefox 3 and 4 to work around this.
type about:config in the address bar. Click OK to the next screen.
Right click an empty area, choose new --> boolean
type/paste this in the box that comes up:
extensions.checkCompatibility

Set that to false. Now firefox doesn't check for compatibility and will try to use
the extension anyway. Use at your own risk, but I suspect it will work.

Roadking
03-27-2011, 07:45 AM
I used to think that if I made my shot and shape that I aimed pretty good. Ater all these "aiming threads" I've now found out that I had no idea of what I was doing.

Now my head hurts, I can't sleep at night, my appetite is gone and I've gained 2 pounds. Please, How can I stop the MADNESS?

PS...Somehow through all this, I can still make the shot and play shape.

I think this thread got Highjacked buy the CTE guys

Roadking
03-27-2011, 07:46 AM
I used to think that if I made my shot and shape that I aimed pretty good. Ater all these "aiming threads" I've now found out that I had no idea of what I was doing.

Now my head hurts, I can't sleep at night, my appetite is gone and I've gained 2 pounds. Please, How can I stop the MADNESS?

PS...Somehow through all this, I can still make the shot and play shape.

I think this thread got Highjacked by the CTE guys!

Maniac
03-27-2011, 08:00 AM
I also am beginning to get really crazy over this. At the table I find myself thinking about the jerks on here and what they say and it bothers me.

You should NEVER have posted this! Now every Tom, Dick, and Harry you ever match up against is gonna know how to get into your head.

Maniac

Mikjary
03-27-2011, 08:35 AM
How do you think I feel when people protest with signs saying "Thank God for Dead Soldiers" or "Soldiers die because of homosexuality" or any of the other signs that the ignorant, degenerates of America want to hold up. There is nothing I can do about it, I can't walk up to them and shoot them in the face, you can't reason with them, they can't even explain why they believe what they protest. But it is something I have to live with that berates me to my very core.
Carl
**sorry, kinda got off topic and ranted...but point being, some people just have to be "dealt with"**

Carl,

Those of us back here in the states can't stand it either. They may have an agenda, but as a father of a soldier and a vet, I say take it some where else! Thank you for your service and good luck with your game.

Best,
Mike

scrappy
03-27-2011, 11:20 AM
seriously who cares if someone believes this or that ?

if you believe it and it works for what's the problem ?

arguing online is tantamount to insanity :wink:

Wags
03-27-2011, 11:30 AM
I think this thread got Highjacked by the CTE guys!

Sheeesh, it sure did. Note, I didn't pick on any specific aiming system. I didn't say whether they were good or bad. I didn't say what worked or what didn't work. I didn't voice an opinion at all...except that there sure is a lot of aiming threads.

I was having a little FUN and now this has turned into one of "those" threads.

I guess that if you get bashed enough, you think everyone is trying to shark. Kind o like Earl going off on the audience when they haven't even done anything...yet.

As stated previously, I do read the threads for professional reasons and I do get tired of both sides. I try to just read the posts that are actually teaching something, positive or negative. I find that I have to scan/skip many useless posts on both sides of the coin.

JB - Please, take a step back. Nothing is worth getting that all worked up about. Let the constructive posts, whether positive or negative, stand on their own. Your quick defense of a certain system is a waste of bandwidth. I would much rather hear exactly, in specifics, why and what is working for you. Of, course, that would be on another thread. Take care of yourself.

Roadking
03-27-2011, 06:44 PM
Green rep too you Wags
it's almost like a CTE Cult.

JB Cases
03-27-2011, 06:48 PM
You should NEVER have posted this! Now every Tom, Dick, and Harry you ever match up against is gonna know how to get into your head.

Maniac

LOL - the guys I gamble with play pool and don't read AZB. No serious gambling happens for me through AZB. But yeah, all they would have to do is start in on how CTE doesn't work......

JB Cases
03-27-2011, 06:52 PM
Sheeesh, it sure did. Note, I didn't pick on any specific aiming system. I didn't say whether they were good or bad. I didn't say what worked or what didn't work. I didn't voice an opinion at all...except that there sure is a lot of aiming threads.

I was having a little FUN and now this has turned into one of "those" threads.

I guess that if you get bashed enough, you think everyone is trying to shark. Kind o like Earl going off on the audience when they haven't even done anything...yet.

As stated previously, I do read the threads for professional reasons and I do get tired of both sides. I try to just read the posts that are actually teaching something, positive or negative. I find that I have to scan/skip many useless posts on both sides of the coin.

JB - Please, take a step back. Nothing is worth getting that all worked up about. Let the constructive posts, whether positive or negative, stand on their own. Your quick defense of a certain system is a waste of bandwidth. I would much rather hear exactly, in specifics, why and what is working for you. Of, course, that would be on another thread. Take care of yourself.

Um, I think that I offered everyone the way to block them all......

I am with you. But the fact is that the so-called skeptics will NOT leave a CTE thread alone. If they did then two things would happen. People who want to try it would discuss it and good information would flow from the people who know it, and also the threads would not have a lot of posts and would be buried.

But it's the CTE SKEPTICS who keep CTE alive on this forum. They take every opportunity to jump in and denigrate users and teachers of it and as such each of those CTE threads quickly turns into a flame fest.